JUST IN: MSNBC Loses Almost HALF Its Viewers in Stunning Post-Election Ratings Report

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: MEDIAite

Nov 27th, 2024, 7:49 am


MSNBC is facing a staggering ratings collapse in the wake of the 2024 election, with the network’s audience shrinking by nearly half as Fox News became the only cable news outlet to show post-election growth.

According to Nielsen data, MSNBC’s total viewership has dropped by 47 percent post-election, and its critical 25-54 demographic plummeted to just 63,000 during primetime—a sharp contrast to its pre-election numbers. The losses are particularly stark compared to rival network Fox News, which solidified its dominance as the most-watched cable news network during and after the election.

While MSNBC pulled in 644,000 viewers in primetime, Fox News soared to 3.2 million, an 86 percent year-over-year increase in total viewers. In the coveted 25-54 demographic, Fox saw a 147 percent surge, averaging 476,000 viewers.

In total-day ratings, MSNBC’s struggles continued, drawing 497,000 viewers and only 49,000 in the 25-54 demo, as shows like Morning Joe recorded some of their lowest numbers in years. The network’s flagship morning program saw a 37 percent drop in viewership after co-hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski met with President-elect Donald Trump.

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I think it's more people turned off ANY "political" programming. Whether folks drift back to it in the future is up in the air.

[LearnedHand]

1. Having a hard time caring

[pnwmom]

5. We will care if Musk buys up MSNBC in a fire sale. nt

[PortTack]

20. Why? MSNBC like the msm has failed to listen to their viewers. They have lied and cajoled at the behest of their

conservative overlords. So we’ve had enough! That’s good

The Dems want the truth, not some half baked journalist interviewing another journalist about their opinion. Ughh!

Lots of places to get the real news without feeding the cable networks

So what if mush takes it over. Murdock is too well intrenched …it will be like OAN or some other terrible spin off

[pnwmom]

27. We already saw CNN go down when it was taken over by a right-winger. We don't need to lose MSNBC

too. I'm not ready to cede all cable news to the MAGA crowd.

And MSNBC is currently owned by NBC, not Murdoch.

[Gore1FL]

30. It's already gone. That's why people are walking away. nt

[pnwmom]

36. More people like me aren't watching because we're depressed over the election. That doesn't mean

we don't think MSNBC is a better station than most, or that we don't need to have our views represented on cable.

[Gore1FL]

38. The sane-washed Trump in the run-up. They are already going to be sold off.

It's time to let MSNBC go the way of Twitter and wait for the analogous Bluesky-version to pop up when it does.

[pnwmom]

42. That is a defeatist attitude I refuse to take. nt

[mzmolly]

44. They called out sane-washing Trump.

What MSNBC shows were you watching?

[Self Esteem]

76. This is a terrible take.

And just cutting your nose off to spite your face.

Maddow, Lawrence ... even Nicolle Wallace are infinitely better than anything that would be offered by a Elon-run MSNBC.

[Gore1FL]

90. Someone is going to buy it. I don't know who. I don't know what there programming will be.

It may be the next shopping network; it all depends on who buys it. At some point, something will come along to fill the market need vacated by MSNBC ealier in the year. Maybe it will be a rebranded MSNBC, itself; maybe not.

If Musk buys "XBC," or whatever the name will be, it will be one of a thousand right wing media outlets. It will be run poorly. It will die in the sea of competition.

[Self Esteem]

97. This is an even worse take.

Your assumption something will feel the void is just not correct. What makes MSNBC so effective, or has made it so effective, is that it's a foundational cable news network.

[lapfog_1]

103. not anymore

even if comcast NEVER sells it... they plan to turn it into something else... "Spinco" ( working name for the spin off cable channels ). It will not be associated with NBC and therefore, NBC news and reporters. So when spinco becomes real, it will only be talking heads talking to other talking heads. No NBC reporters, no field operations and camera crews. Probably we have seen the last of Ali velshi reporting on a hurricane or a major protest or school shooting. So sure, they can invite WaPo reporters on to talking head interviews so they reporter can hawk their next book... but that's about it.

Losing the "news' means we MSNBC watchers will have to get our hard news from another source ( NBC, CBS, ABC, Faux for those who like their news with whipped lies on top, and sad little CNN ).

Cable is going away... I just attended a pre-thanksgiving at a friends place... most of the people there were younger... after dinner we told each other a few entertaining stories... and then one by one they all switch to staring at their phones... and that's my queue to make my excuses and leave. The under 40s get their fix from the apps and X and tiktok and their favorite "influencer" than actual news from actual unbiased people that studied journalism ( or at least tried ).

Not to mention that pre-Deadline White House in the afternoon, there isn't a single person on worth watching that isn't trying to sane wash or otherwise make Trump seem like a reasonable person and his whack job stupid ass voters need to be listened to. Complete with accepting the trump premise that immigrants ( legal or not ) are a big problem that needs to be addressed and that inflation is killing us and that crime is out of control. As for Morning Joe... never trusted Joe and Mika should never again be allowed to even say "know your worth" because she clearly thinks of herself as worthless.

I will watch Deadline White House, Chris Hayes, Rachael when she is on, Lawrence, and Velshi and Stephanie Rhule. They are all headed to podcast hell anyway... just like Keith Olbermann... say goodbye to those $20M a year contracts Rachael.

[calimary]

133. I'd hate to see MSNBC go.

It’s really the only place I trust, even partially, and I like the same prime time shows you mentioned.

But I’ve gotta admit, I’m still pissed off that Rachel Maddow doesn’t want to be on Monday through Friday anymore. That’s one helluva platform she turned her back on. Especially when it MADE her as a high-value talking head.

[Gore1FL]

105. Reality is what reality is.

There is a reason it is for sale. Mistakes were made; I didn't make them. I don't have the cash to buy it. If I did, I wouldn't.

[Keepthesoulalive]

61. Old folks watch legacy media

We have to find other sources for our news and find ways of cutting through propaganda coming from all sides.

[pnwmom]

123. AND they vote. Boomer women had the highest support for Kamala of all age groups. nt

[Keepthesoulalive]

124. We vote but considering how they treated president Biden

And allowed that filth maggot to do and say anything that came to his demented mind with very little pushback if they reported it at all. We must be able to counter the lies and propaganda or we will lose our democracy. I canceled my Washington post subscription, we are going to have to make some uncomfortable changes if we value our freedom.

[pnwmom]

125. MSNBC didn't mistreat President Biden, and I think it's a terrible idea for us to cede ALL cable news to the MAGAs. nt

[Keepthesoulalive]

126. Biden is too old

They bought into the drama . They are not liberal, they are owned by a conglomerate and they will do their masters bidding. The media in this country sane washed a pervert and traitor, they elevated Elon musk above his station and we will all pay the price.

[Quanto Magnus]

121. The executives at NBC

are also rich and conservative, basically the same problem all M$M right now....

[mzmolly]

47. Some of the comments here, make me think people didn't

actually watch the channel before taking a position.

There is no way Maddow, Wallace, O'Donnell, Reid etc. lied and cajoled for anyone. Even Morning Joe was a fierce critic of Trump.

[niyad]

77. Until he and mika went to nightmare-a-lardo to kiss TRAITOR**'s ####.

[mzmolly]

78. Yes.

But the show is still calling things out.

[niyad]

86. joe is? or the guests? Some of us will NEVER forget, or forgive, joe and mika

for sucking up to TRAITOR** in 2015/16.

[ificandream]

88. Good grief. No they haven't.

Too many people today expect the real media like MSNBC to play favorites. Sorry, but they don't. Do they report things we don't like to hear? Yes, but that's to be expected when you report facts. Journalism doesn't play favorites like Murdoch does.

Hopefully, MSNBC will continue to do what they always have. I understand that their viewship has dropped. I haven't turned it on since the election, but not because I hate MSNBC. It's election depression. The same thing happened to me in 2016.

People shouldn't give up on MSNBC. That's the list thing we need. Real journalism needs to be supported, not shunned.

[radical noodle]

134. What shows on MSNBC did you watch regularly and in full?

Because I watched them often and they were doing everything as close to shouting "Vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz" as they could. They took down trump at every opportunity and I never saw any normalizing of him. What more did you want? What did their "viewers" want that they didn't get? Or are you just anti media because they're owned by a big corporation?

[Gore1FL]

29. If Musk wants to overpay for another failing media company to drive it out-of-business, I'm not standing in his way. nt

[mzmolly]

45. I hope someone does.

We don't need more Trump/Putin TV.

[stonecutter357]

53. WHY ?

[Keepthesoulalive]

60. We don't have to watch

Something about a wolf in sheep’s clothes.

[Joinfortmill]

62. I think MSNBC killed itself. People are turning

to alternative sources. Something will rise from it's ashes.

[oldmanlynn]

102. Msnbc has been the closest media outlet presenting

The Democratic view and perspective. If that goes away so does part of our truth propaganda capability

[Keepthesoulalive]

128. Not that many people look at television news.

That little visit to trump did not help them. If you look at the history of that channel you will see they would only allow certain truths. Phil Donahue .

[pnwmom]

138. You shouldn't condemn a whole progressive network because the hosts on one show let you down. nt

[Keepthesoulalive]

140. I am entitled to my opinion

I understand Walter Cronkite, Bernard Shaw, and journalists who report the news. I also understand infotainment which is designed to pump up emotions for ratings. Katy tur was on Michael Cohens speed dial. I am not invested in pseudo journalistic personalities, i don’t want opinions I want the truth and MSNBC is not my first ,last or anything in between choice. If I you are satisfied with their entertainment I hope you continue to enjoy. But I demand a lot more from my news sources.

[pnwmom]

141. You have such high standards and yet

it's just fine with you if Elon Musk grabs a major cable news channel.

This is yet another example of a progressive letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[Keepthesoulalive]

142. I have always believed Musk

Is an entitled jerk. I despise Tesla because he’s a master bull shitter and anything he supposedly makes frightens me. I’m a lot more worried about what he can do to our country with his billions. Musk buying MSNBC is not going to shake the world or be noticed by most Americans. Losing real news that reports facts rather than opinions might lead to the demise of democracy. Sometimes when I see these opinion programs I feel like I’m watching a verbal wwf wrestling match.

[pnwmom]

143. Boomer women, who as a group still watch cable news,

voted for Kamala more than every other age group. We just had an election that was decided by just 1.6% of the voters, so it makes no sense to give up on cable news now.

[Keepthesoulalive]

144. The number of boomer women who watch cable news other than fox is

Very small. If they were all in the swing states it would not make any difference.
Because you are invested in it, you are giving it greater importance than it deserves. If it gives you pleasure or comfort enjoy. I am not afraid of losing another talking head channel, I am worried about the propaganda permeating the internet. Many people get their voting info from facebook, friends, workplace and church.

[pnwmom]

145. 1.6% of voters was the difference in the popular vote. It is only your gut feeling, no actual evidence,

that leads you to believe that without MSNBC the results wouldn't have been any worse; and that losing MSNBC would have no impact on the Democratic total next time.

[Keepthesoulalive]

146. You're dealing in hypotheticals

The popular vote is irrelevant only the electoral votes count. Andrea Mitchell saying Biden was too old and slipping in republican talking points. I’ve given you instances of them being less than honest. I hope we get real honest reporting and investigative journalism and not talking heads . I don’t care what happens to MSNBC, the majority of people who are liberal don’t care only a few
People are concerned about it . Feel free to continue supporting it, but I have better things to do. My Meyer lemon tree is having babies and I must oversee the delivery today .

[magicarpet]

151. Andrea Mitchell employment.....

Andrea Mitchell to Leave MSNBC Anchor Chair for Broader Role at NBC News
The shift from hosting daily ‘Andrea Mitchell Reports’ to a wider presence in the NBC News Group will follow the U.S. Presidential inauguration in Jan. 2025.


By Etan Vlessing

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October 29, 2024 10:52am

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/andrea-mitchell-msnbc-anchor-1236047775/

[quakerboy]

107. Will we?

I listened in a few nights between the debate and the election. I heard a lot of bemoaning of inflation, and a bit about saving democracy and abortion rights. It was a presentation that seemed designed to look sympathetic to Democrats, but In actuality was the same drumbeat of doom that every RW station was blaring.

[Keepthesoulalive]

127. Yes

Is Biden too old ? Let’s have a discussion. Should Biden drop out? They were just asking innocent questions designed to frame the narrative.

[womanofthehills]

130. I think all cable shows are becoming a thing of the past.

Most - esp the young - get all their news online now. You don’t have to sit in front of a tv - you can listen while working, driving , cleaning etc and get in-depth podcasts - instead of 5 minutes on a topic, you can get 2 hrs on a topic you are interested in.

I don’t see him buying a dying medium.

[forgotmylogin]

12. I know I can't stand to look at any news right now, right or left.

I know it's impossible to just crawl in a hole for four years but I just can't deal.

[LearnedHand]

13. Get your news from DU LBN and online news outlets

TV "news" doesn't exist anymore. They're all just vehicles for shareholder profit.

[pnwmom]

28. LBN includes stories from MSNBC and even CNN. nt

[mahina]

39. But we are not journalists, we find and bring journalists work here

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We can no sooner do our own journalism than untrained people can do their own research- tough if you consider researching asking Google rather than doing science or reading real research. We don't have the tools to do it even if we had time.

If there aren’t journalists, we might as well play checkers

[LearnedHand]

92. No we aren't, but we are the best crowdsourced news site I've ever seen

[Nigrum Cattus]

40. A tardigrade with a violin !

Too good !!!
Bravo

[BonnieJW]

109. Wait

until the problems rush in. The viewers will be back

[Lonestarblue]

2. Democrats and progressives have just tuned out for a while.

I for one blame much of the media for refusing to ficus on what trump’s policies would mean for government and the lives average people. Few of them bothered to explain what was in Project 2025. Even fewer spent any time reporting the accomplishments of the Biden Administration or to refute Trump’s lies that inflation and mortgage rates were the highest on record.

So what has MSNBC or any major media done to earn our viewership?

[Raven123]

4. I agree. MSNBC should have been reporting on Biden's policies

Instead they ran around interviewing Trump supporters. I found myself watching less and less and now just don’t tune in. I don’t care about their editorializing. Get out in the field and report the facts. Show where the money went from the infrastructure plan, the reduction in med prices etc…

[La Coliniere]

32. You're correct about presenting his policies included specific infrastructure projects

that have been completed or that are still on going.
They could show, by using easy to read graphs, how well the US did compared to other nations in bringing back jobs, and especially in easing inflation. The Harris campaign should’ve hammered this home as well in their campaign ads. I never saw any of this info in their ads.

[mzmolly]

48. MSNBC did call out Project 2025 and defend Biden's policies.

What hosts did you watch?

[Meadowoak]

80. in the daytime, MSNBC is fox lite. especially Andrea Mitchell, in the evening, it's a completely different network,

With Rachel, Lawrence, and Chris Hayes. I can't watch them in the daytime, nor Weekends.

[mzmolly]

84. I agree on Mitchell and Tur.

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[riversedge]

63. I have to admit I have tuned out msnbc which I had watch most of

the time-some evening shows.

I barely tune into cnn.

Maybe I will get my interest back in politics -eventually. Although I do scan the news on the internet, I seem to have just lost interest--for now

[NJCher]

3. really don't want to hear about any of it

I used to listen to Brian Lehrer (WNYC--our local public radio) regularly because he did NOT discuss the orange menace. Since the election he's been talking about it every day, so I don't listen there either.

[walkingman]

6. I still watch in the evening. Never watched Morning Joe. I also don't think the Democrats

did anything wrong this election. For me it was an easy choice and no forensic examination of the Party is needed.

I hope MSNBC hangs around. I don't care for podcasts or tiktok or any of the other popular social media.

Just an old guy who appreciates civility, truth, and cannot understand why or how so many people could elect Trump once again after seeing what he did in his last term.

[The Grand Illuminist]

10. The problem has always been about taking the high road

Because the low road is always the way to prosperity quick as a wink. Even if it is an unfortunate necessity.

[brush]

7. We need a Soros, Bloomberg or some other Dem billionaire to step up and...

build a 24/7 cable network to counter FOX's programming as MSNBC's 644,000 viewership is dwarfed by FOX's 3.2 million and growing number of viewers watching and obviously internalizing their winger programming and lies, given the outcome of the election.

We need help.

Can't give up though as the maga fascists and their coming kakistocracy with trump atop it is bound to screw up bigly.

[maxsolomon]

8. I'm sorry but its too depressing.

Maybe I'll come back at some point, like 2029, or when MFer drops dead.

I simply cannot take any more outrage bait.

[Raven]

9. I tuned out because of Joe and Mika. I still watch Nicole and Lawrence and Rachel. Mika

is a privileged airhead and Joe is a loudmouth.

[padah513]

71. Joe and Mika sure showed their true colors didn't they?

[Behind the Aegis]

11. Rachel's stats took a big hit.

Which I don't understand as she is the most intelligent of the bunch and provides some of the BEST in-depth analysis of what is happening.

But, DU has also taken a hit and the numbers are down too. Burnout? Anger? Sadness? Fear? Depression? Who knows.

I know in our house the news is almost never on now and watching political shows and clips is way down, almost zero.

[JustAnotherGen]

69. We are there with you guys

I'll watch ABC 7 (NYC) or ABC 6 (Philly) for local coverage. World News on Cibor or BBC World

[Puppyjive]

14. I can't take the drug commercials anymore

I've seen enough. It's the same old shit, with the same commercials. I'm really tired of opinion. I just want news.

[SunSeeker]

99. Yeah, the skeevy Bluechew ads are too much.

I really don't want you see boner pill ads with my news.

[hlthe2b]

15. As much as it is probably post-election disgust, if Joe & Mika shoulder more than their share of the blame...

I won't shed a tear.

I do watch Nicole, Rachel, and Lawrence fairly regularly--Joy Reid and a couple of others less so. The rest, meh. Ari Melber has pissed me off too many times--I'm done. Chris is okay, but I just don't have the urge... and Stephanie comes on way too late.

I don't want us to lose MSNBC, but my sanity is more important overall. Given some Progressive billionaires inquired after Musk's post, I don't think we are at risk of losing it on the short term, at least. And, if they clean the house of the "Katy Turs," and a few others, I won't be too devastated.

[Evolve Dammit]

41. Agree. Like Jonathan Capehart and Velshi too.

[beaglelover]

16. Good. They deserve to after how much they lied about the election. I hope they go out of business.

[hlthe2b]

17. Yes. Fox News absolutely DID lie about the election. Oh, you meant MSNBC? I think you should clarify.

No, I'm not an obsessive defender of MSNBC--and certainly not of some specific "bothsider" hosts, but...

[beaglelover]

18. Yes, many of the talking heads on MSNBC lied to us.

[mzmolly]

49. How so?

What specific lies were told by MSNBC?

[ancianita]

81. Crickets.

[brush]

31. Clarity pls. Are you talking about MSNBC or FOX?

[SWBTATTReg]

19. There's been a million of 'could have', 'would have', 'should have' posts. Dissecting the numbers, the whys and

what we should have done, etc. isn't going to help now. It's like we going through the different stages of death. Let us going through this stages, all of us, and reconcile ourselves to the future that is to come.

I do say that it's time to move on, from Pres. Biden and all of those candidates related to the Biden era. Their time has come and gone, and Pres. Biden and VP Harris have done their duty to this Country because of their love for this Country. And I daresay that tRUMP is probably likely to pass on, his (at 78 now) life expectancy is nine years old. I personally don't think that his health is very good, because that he doesn't exercise or eat right.

[chowder66]

21. I stopped watching for a while so I just put in on mute in the background while I work... to support them.

But I only start at 1 pm pacific when Nicole comes on.

[Freddie]

22. I just can't watch any news right now

Reminds me too much of what we lost. Maybe in a few months.

[Hope22]

23. Let's go back to the Fairness Doctrine...

….wont be perfect but worth a whirl. And a mandatory civics test for all Americans. Let's have a Tv show to prep the folks and help clean up this mess TV has created. Maybe with a lottery, contestants and some little kids. 😘

[radical noodle]

136. If we just had a mandatory civics test for those in elected offices

it would make a big difference. There aren't a handful of Republicans who can even spell Constitution.

[Ojerly]

24. I stopped watching

CNN when most of the talent started to cozy up to the crazy of MAGA and Fat Donnie. I'm doing the same thing now with Morning Joe. Those two are willing to suck at the orange sphincter to save their asses. I'm still watching the others until they also fold for their own preservation.

[nowforever]

25. I quit watching and reading all news

I know the nightmare that is coming and hearing and reading about it is to painful.

[tinymontgomery]

26. 1/2 hr 6pm local

1/2 hr 6pm local news, 1/2 David Muir and GMA in the morning. We turn the sound off on GMA at the beginning when they talk about
45. We eat, I'm on here reading and my wife is doing worddle while the rest of the show is on and we're getting ready to do something for
the day.

[bob4460]

33. They normalized the lying fascist,they deserve it! N/T

[mzmolly]

50. They called him a fascist.

They said he wants to be a dictator.

[jvill]

34. MSNBC isn't news, it's political entertainment. That became crystal clear to me. That's not what I need right now.

...

[honeylady]

35. MSNBC was our only voice.

I think of all the hosts letting us know what Trump was up to. How about Rachel, Lawrence, Joy, et al. I’ve stopped watching only because I can’t listen to any political news right now. Not because of the hosts. I feel bad for them. They will proabably lose their jobs and it will turn into another Fox News.

[Nigrum Cattus]

37. It's not MSNBC it's the news

Most of MSNBC's viewers are lefties, including me. Most lefties
are not watching any news because it's just bad,bad,bad. Once
the Repubs take over and really start doing things their viewers
will come back, that is if they don't acquiesce.

[Initech]

115. I haven't watched network news in 15 years. Don't plan to start either.

[Mz Pip]

43. I haven't watched any news

since right before the election. I check the headlines here, but little has motivated me to click on a news link.

There really isn’t anything I can do as it is.

[PatrickforB]

46. Well...I'm not watching them. I feel utterly betrayed by our media. Just no. n/t

[Blue Owl]

51. Fuck ABCNNBCBS with a barbed wire dildo

[stonecutter357]

52. GOOD also not Stunning at ALL !

[Buttoneer]

54. I'm not even listening to NPR still.

[SupportSanity]

55. Sure. We should just switch to the other democratic channel. Which one is that?

[Born Free]

66. Try Thom Hartman

It's a bit slow but Thom Hartman's Youtube channel has some interesting topics, but as you say there is no democratic leaning channel.

[SupportSanity]

116. Yes. I'm a fan of Thom Hartman.

It's just him, though.

MSNBC has a lot of personalities to watch or not.

But, Thom would be a good alternative.

Thanks.

[stonecutter357]

56. Joe and Mika and andrea Bitchell have to go !

Before I go bock to MSNBC !

[DownriverDem]

57. Am not watching

any news including Morning Joe etc. Right winger billionaires own the media. We need a left leaning billionaire to step up now. There is no balance.

[C0RI0LANUS]

58. Many Americans watched PBS election night and afterwards for analysis. Plus, DemocracyNow! is a great vehicle.

Link:

https://www.democracynow.org/

[kerouac2]

59. Maybe after the holidays. Maybe.

Kinda feel like, what's the point? I don't need to hear from the MSNBC bubble about anyone associated with trump. I know they are all terrible and every decision that will be made will be terrible. I'll stick to reputable news articles in moderation.

[Jarqui]

64. I'm kind of "Why watch? There's nothing I can do about it"

I did all I could before the election.

I went on X to challenge the disinformation.
They filtered my posts out.

MAGA, Republicans, Musk & Trump don't care what we have to say.

Their efforts over the next two years will be to consolidate their grip on power.

They control the House, Senate, SCOTUS and White House.
I do not see anything meaningful I can do to stop them.
The election is over and so maybe, I fear, is the democracy.

[Figarosmom]

65. Im beginning to think maybe

I'll start watching again since tsf and his crew are trying to destroy all liberal news from existence. They are going after the funding for NPR and in sure PBS will follow. I do have recurring donations to both on monthly basis. But NSNBC is yje only cable (( mainstream) liberal Station left. The newspapers will capitulate and publish whatever they are told to.

[bdamomma]

93. I'm starting

to watch too especially Joy, Lawrence and Al Sharpton.. It's what they want us to do, tune out, don't pay attention, while they shovel out propaganda to those FOX viewers who will keep on believing their lies. And we are the majority!!

I know there are other independent news sources, but then again that swill that they (Right wing propaganda) repeat will make people more ignorant.

[Figarosmom]

94. We have to be smart and not so emotional

I will not watch morning Joe tbough. They need to go. All they are now are mouthpieces.

[bdamomma]

95. Yes

we are that, emotional and we care about our country. We all felt the knife go in, but we cannot let these bastards take us under. Someone posted "we need a patriot" hmm..... one person is not going to save us, we have to save ourselves.

[tazcat]

67. re: MSNBC defenders, haters - Does anybody here

watch Free Speech TV? {FSTV} I record Thom Hartmann & Rick Smith is good too. Coffee in the am w/ Stephanie Miller. Msnbc is owned by rw greedy bastards. Miss the days of Ed Shultz and Rachael when she still had a best new thing or the more you know. Will only watch Capehart and Lawrence now. We really need the money to come in for radio & FSTV to try and neutralize this propaganda. Get the damn TRUTH out there to these idiots. Recalibrate their bullshit meters!

[kansasobama]

68. We need to support MSNBC

Otherwise we are shooting ourselves. Please do watch despite complaints. Joy Reid, Alex Wagner, Lawrence ODonnell, Rachel Maddow, and Hayes need to be supported.

Do not let Russia happen to us. We are falling into fascist trap if we do not support liberal media even if we disagree with some things they say.

[yorkster]

82. Ali Velshi as well. I dvr his sat and sun shows.

[pazzyanne]

112. Same!

He comes across as sane and sensible.

[Talitha]

70. I stopped watching ALL news - not just MSNBC.

In fact, it was a while before my soul felt well enough to check DU again, or skim Yahoo News in the morning. As time passes I'm in here more often, but definitely not like before. Affairs of the world will go on whether I know about them or not. My world changed on election night.

[Starlight27]

72. Me too

I feel exactly the same way. Something is different this time. Something is really wrong 😔

[Talitha]

91. Yes I agree, there's definitely a different 'feel' this time.

Nice to meet you, and welcome to DU!

"Something wrong" only scratches the surface - has America gone crazy?

How in the name of all that is sane, can so many people have chosen that creature to serve another term? Incredible, but that's where we are right now.

The only way I can cope with his re-election is to totally avoid news/politics. The sound of his blathering voice nausiates me, and images of him are enough to generate nightmares. So I'll comfortably regress into my safe cocoon of books, old movies (1930-1940) and astronomy... and pop into DU every day in order to keep my sanity.

[Starlight27]

152. Thank you for the welcome!

Nice to meet you, too, Talitha!
Happy to be here and so glad I found a place to be with like-minded people.

Enjoy watching your old movies. 😊

[kansasobama]

131. If you do that FOX wins

[Talitha]

139. The word 'if' doesn't apply - I've already done it.

[bdamomma]

147. And that Fox propaganda will rot peoples psyches more. More lies are not good.

More hate and division will be increased and towards more groups of people.

We need to de-escalate the hate.

[Montauk6]

73. Joe & Mika 3:16 - "But our friends at the country club said 'WAY TO GO!!!'"

[yaesu]

74. I have stopped watching all corporate news and will not return. They are part of the problem.nt.

[Linda ladeewolf]

75. NBC should put it on the network.

Take it off cable. I don’t watch cable, I watch Lawrence O’Donnell online, or Madow on line. I use the Guardian as my news paper. Only thing I will miss is being able to get the weather reports. I bought a weather station that hangs on my wall with sensors outside it’s pretty accurate, but it doesn’t do long range weather.

[bee_peaceful]

79. Meidas Touch Network with 4 million NT

[aggiesal]

83. I think people just stopped watching because we were tired of hearing the bad news ...

I know I stopped watching on election night when Kornacki kept repeating that the vote count was only the early mail in ballots and the (R) vote on election day, never mentioning that the late mail in ballots tend towards (D)'s, which they're still counting.

MSNBC will get their viewership back.
I like watching Alex Wagner, 11th Hour w/Stephanie Ruhle and at times The Last Word w/Lawrence O'Donnell.

[Tetrachloride]

85. I wouldn't mind Eric Sevareid reruns. The McLaughlin Report turned me off decades ago.

[33taw]

87. They lost me in 2016.

They put trumps face on the screen all day long. They went for ratings then regardless of what he did. I expected that from Fox, but not them.

[YoshidaYui]

89. JOE AND MIKA ARE SELL OUTS

who is next?

[Cheezoholic]

98. Wow, starting to get confused on who's wanting to burn it all down

MSNBC goes away kiss it all goodbye. Most here may know where to get spoon fed what pleases their palette but without MSNBC the masses will NEVER see ANYTHING on M$M even approaching an alternate viewpoint from the fascist news let alone any glimmer of truth. I think people should check their anger before they toss out the baby, no matter how imperfect, with the bath water. What may not be progressive enough for you may be just what the Dr ordered for main stream America over the next 4 years.

I personally will pay for the lineup as it stands, even with Moe and Jika and Mumblemouth and Turd. Its not for me, its for everyone else whose never watched, especially 4-11.

Let MSNBC drown? Fuck that

[chia]

110. Kiss all what goodbye? The majority of Americans aren't watching cable; viewers have already dropped below 50%.

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None of my grown children, or my friends' grown children, have cable. They never had it in the first place. Just about everyone I know my age (early 60s) cut the cord at some point over the last 5 years or so. Maybe MSNBC will live on in some format as stand-alone media, but monolithic TV has disintegrated.

[radical noodle]

137. I don't have cable anymore

but I still get MSNBC live streamed on Sling.

[pazzyanne]

113. Exactly!

"...but without MSNBC the masses will NEVER see ANYTHING on M$M even approaching an alternate viewpoint from the fascist news let alone any glimmer of truth. I think people should check their anger before they toss out the baby, no matter how imperfect, with the bath water."

[LilElf70]

100. And, this too will pass

I give it 2 weeks.

[underpants]

101. I just think a lot of their audience is avoiding all news

The whole thing is so disheartening and disturbing

[ItsjustMe]

104. I stopped watching MSNBC months ago.

All they've been doing is giving Trump Facetime 24/7, I was sick of it.

On any given day, I had no idea what the Democrats were doing, but I knew what Trump and the Republicans were doing.

[hunter]

106. Television created the orange monster.

Television can go to hell.

I quit watching television news and opinion in the disgusting run-up to the Iraq war.

In 2012 my wife and I quit advertising supported television entirely -- no broadcast, no cable, no satellite. We simply don't see television advertising in our daily lives.

Before Twitter came along I thought television was the worst medium for news and opinion. Both Television and Twitter bypass our critical thinking skills with a flood of bullshit.

Reading news, written in long paragraphs, allows one to stop and think critically.

[GoodRaisin]

108. Is anyone really stunned about this development?

What have they got to say that anyone wants to hear right now?

[moniss]

111. I predict that in the suites of power

at MSNBC the execs will decide that they lost viewers because they weren't "conservative enough". Network execs are always displaying their brilliance.

[Deminpenn]

114. MSNBC misread their audience, imho

After Jan 6th, they went all in on the fearmongering (Democracy) model that FoxNews uses. Nicolle Wallace literally did the same show daily for the last 4 years. All the other prime time shows did the same for the most part. Only O'Donnell stayed mostly out of that trap. Had they focused on what Biden was actually doing and had accomplished, Dems would've been better able to counter the FoxNews lies and propaganda with facts and unbiased data. If they'd have had more guests like the oil trader Hayes had on who explained how Biden had basically broken OPEC and stabilized the oil markets, MSNBC would've been much more interesting to watch,

On top of that, MSNBC kept telling viewers what they thought viewers wanted to hear. Dems, imo, are capable of critical thinking. Less preaching to the choir and more real, informed discussion of the issues was needed.

I haven't watched any MSNBC since the election because I know it will just be 4 more years of Trump-centric programming even though it will be criticizing Trump. I'm just not interested in watching that.

[Midwestern Democrat]

149. Agreed. It got to the point where Rachel Maddow actually said to the widow of Alexei Navalny that if America votes

for Trump that it would be JUST LIKE choosing Putin - and needless to say, Rachel didn't quite get the reaction from Mrs. Navalny that she was expecting. Mrs. Navalny was understandably appalled at having to listen to a woman who's become a multimillionaire trashing Trump on national television trivializing what her husband had died for - explaining to Rachel (and her audience) that the United States has an independent judicial system and all sorts of other safeguards that don't exist in Russia, etc.

[Roy Rolling]

117. Everybody Misses the Point

Certain people bask in the warm glow of other idiots parroting their own, failed talking points. A Confederacy of Dumbfucks is just as dumb. Electing country managers based on their photogenic appeal on cable TV, results in the country of Dumbfuckistan.

Elect competent managers, stop giving free air time to the circus. 🤡 rides on the wave of free propaganda by MSNBC and everyone. Clowniie McClownface received billions in free advertising masquerading as “news”.

You’ve been played billionaire media giants—ETTD.

[NotHardly]

118. I call bullshit on this headline & its tawdry statements.

[NowsTheTime]

119. Sorry, You need a tv network to counter propaganda Fox , and a misleading CNN..

.....we can't blow this off
...however I think the loss is temporary...
...I personally haven't watched any msn lately

[Olliepalamaloo]

120. MSNBC from 4pm to 10pm

is the only news I trust. I'm not ready to see any political coverage , so I tune in to MSNBC on a TV in a room that I'm not in. I don't have to hear or see his stupid smirking face and help support MSNBC ratings at the same time. I feel like we just cant risk loosing the only block of shows that speak truth to power and cut through all of the gaslighting and sane washing that's happening right now.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

148. Welcome to DU

[The Grand Illuminist]

122. Now I am interested in knowing viewership information for Free Speech TV.

The second largest political progressive network.

[Silver Gaia]

129. The only reason we stopped watching was because

we couldn't bear the thought of hearing his whiny, fake tough-guy voice (ack!) or see his ugly, evil, smirking face (ew!).

NO. THEY DID NOT LIE TO US. They fucking tried to tell us he is a fascist! Too few listened. Or believed. They were hopeful, right along with us, and just as devastated at what happened. I saw it in their faces. I heard in their voices.

I did not watch Morning Joe. He annoyed the hell out of me. But I watched these people, and each issued clear warnings about the election: Rachel, Lawrence, Joy, Nicole, Stephanie, Jen, Ali, and Chris. THEY are the true heart of MSNBC, and if we lose them, they will be sorely missed. We NEED their voices, maybe now more than ever.

I think we will start turning it on again, but keeping it muted. Any of us who don't want to lose them should probably do the same.

[Aussie105]

132. Now that Americans are realizing their media move like corn stalks in the political breeze

maybe it is time for people to look elsewhere in the world for their news and opinions?

Internet streaming is a thing, no need for free to air or cable TV.

BBC UK does well, so does Aljazeera, PBS can be fair at times too.

But it's a good thing, when people wake up to the fact local US media is colored by the financiers behind it and the talking heads you see simply echo what they are told to say - sincerely, with a straight face.
And viewers know that and find it not desirable.

Is there a special school for TV anchors where they are taught to practice their serious faces while they say phrases like 'Snow tastes like Poo!', possibly?

[radical noodle]

135. I think you're right about just turning off politics for a while

After the election, I just couldn't stomach all the finger pointing and criticism. I just had to process everything and try to get past my anger.

[LiberalFighter]

153. If MSNBC wants to increase viewers and revenue

They need to get rid of Andrea Mitchell, Katy Tur, Chris Jansing, and change some of the format. Cover more news.

[BumRushDaShow]

154. Mitchell is supposedly leaving the anchor chair of her show

after the inauguration - https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2024/10/29/andrea-mitchell-leaving-msnbc-reports-2025/75919285007/

(but will apparently still pop up every once in awhile like Schmuck Toad)