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highplainsdem

(54,708 posts)
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 05:58 PM Nov 2024

'First Buddy' Elon Musk accuses Trump impeachment witness of 'treason' and calls for 'appropriate penalty'

Source: The Independent

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Musk, who has been tasked by Trump to lead an outside agency on government efficiency named after a meme, took issue on Wednesday with comments made by former National Security Council official Alexander Vindman during an appearance on MSNBC.

Vindman, who testified in 2019 that Trump pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to launch an investigation into then-presidential candidate Joe Biden, cited reports that Musk had been engaged in secret conversations with Russian President Vladimir Putin dating back to 2022. He then expressed concerns that Musk, who has federal contracts through his SpaceX, Tesla and Starlink companies, may have shared “state secrets” with Putin.

“And [Putin’s] been using the richest man in the world to do his bidding. In some cases, that’s encouraging him probably to support Donald Trump,” Vindman told MSNBC. “That’s not speculation. We see how far in Elon has gone. And then using Twitter as a disinformation platform.”

Reacting to a clip of Vindman’s remarks, Musk tweeted: “Vindman is on the payroll of Ukrainian oligarchs and has committed treason against the United States, for which he will pay the appropriate penalty.”

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Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-trump-impeachment-vindman-treason-b2654951.html

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'First Buddy' Elon Musk accuses Trump impeachment witness of 'treason' and calls for 'appropriate penalty' (Original Post) highplainsdem Nov 2024 OP
Alex Vindman did the right thing with his testimony. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2024 #1
He is also a US congressman, winning this last election BonnieJW Nov 2024 #18
The congressman is his twin brother, Eugene. Rhiannon12866 Nov 2024 #21
Thanks for pointing that out. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2024 #23
I certainly agree, Alex is an American hero - and his brother is stepping up now Rhiannon12866 Nov 2024 #25
Their parents raised them right. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2024 #27
And they were grateful to have been given the chance to immigrate here. Rhiannon12866 Nov 2024 #28
They really were. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2024 #30
Give me a bazillion Vidman's and let that bastard musk go home to south Africa PortTack Nov 2024 #34
The sooner the better. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2024 #38
Elmo is such a sad little man.. And what's with the facial pubes? jvill Nov 2024 #2
His mommy's on FOXHenhouse telling Stuart Blarney how special her little angel is Grokenstein Nov 2024 #6
She's wearing emerald green peregrinus Nov 2024 #43
Wait a minute! Alexander Vindman stole classified documents and hid them in his bathroom? jls4561 Nov 2024 #3
I just don't understand why any Democrat or progressive still utilizes twitter. JohnSJ Nov 2024 #4
While I don't use the Ex Twitter service... mwooldri Nov 2024 #19
Yes, Stephen King went to Blue Sky JohnSJ Nov 2024 #26
WTF? these baboons are all going crazy with power!! bluestarone Nov 2024 #5
I hope Vindman sues MuskRat's lying fascist ass for a billion dollars. Tanuki Nov 2024 #7
Every time Leon Musky opens his mouth, he solidifies his reign as most despicable person in the world. Each utterance Comfortably_Numb Nov 2024 #8
I still say Trump has delegated the presidency to Elon... slightlv Nov 2024 #17
He's a young t-rump..all the narcissistic traits coming out. He'll come to the same end..everything he touches will die PortTack Nov 2024 #35
Vindman YES!!!! Six117 Nov 2024 #9
Republicans always accuse others of their own crimes. SunSeeker Nov 2024 #10
It may not happen immediately... Blue Owl Nov 2024 #11
I sure hope so. I'm beginning to hate his fucking guts. GoodRaisin Nov 2024 #41
It seems that Elon Musk is fighting Trumps retribution fight now. I wonder if Trump put Musk up to this or riversedge Nov 2024 #42
Blood Diamonds POS ! stonecutter357 Nov 2024 #12
Emeralds. niyad Nov 2024 #22
It appears Muskrat has no idea of the definition of treason. TomSlick Nov 2024 #13
In the country he is from and other like it, treason is saying anything against the ruling people. No so much LiberalArkie Nov 2024 #14
Which is why I glad of the narrow definition in the Constitution. TomSlick Nov 2024 #31
Projection. What else is new. Small brain/dick, no self awareness. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #15
says the non-US born backwash Evolve Dammit Nov 2024 #16
Musk is a foreign asset and enemy liberalgunwilltravel Nov 2024 #20
This twit doesn't know one thing about the Constitution...............Vindman does.............dirtbag.......... turbinetree Nov 2024 #24
Vindman the best America has to offer, Musk, the worst. dem4decades Nov 2024 #29
In one picture: usonian Nov 2024 #32
Oh, I'm certain . . . . AverageOldGuy Nov 2024 #33
Vindman is already trolling that fascist fuck Skittles Nov 2024 #37
Take him to court TimeToGo Nov 2024 #36
Musk thinks he's the Fuhrer. hadEnuf Nov 2024 #39
Apartheid nepo baby should've learned what treason is when he took his citizenship exam Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2024 #40
Someone please kick Elon's treasonous ass 4catsmom Nov 2024 #44
Would that be First Buddy Mx.K? taxi Nov 2024 #45
Who is the real traitor? LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #46
Alexander Vindman RESPONDS to Elon Musk's threat that he will "pay" for his "treason" LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #47

greatauntoftriplets

(177,385 posts)
1. Alex Vindman did the right thing with his testimony.
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 06:03 PM
Nov 2024

That's something that Musk wouldn't recognize if it slapped him in the face.

greatauntoftriplets

(177,385 posts)
23. Thanks for pointing that out.
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 09:07 PM
Nov 2024

I had stepped away for a bit. I was pleased when Eugene won, even though I don't live in Virginia. If Alex also has political ambitions, I'd wish him well. But considering what Alex has been through, including this latest threat, he may just want to a quiet life with his wife and kids. And who can blame him? He's an authentic hero.

Rhiannon12866

(229,861 posts)
25. I certainly agree, Alex is an American hero - and his brother is stepping up now
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 09:13 PM
Nov 2024

If only most Americans were half as patriotic as these Ukrainian-born brothers.

greatauntoftriplets

(177,385 posts)
30. They really were.
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 09:25 PM
Nov 2024

Both Vindmans served their adopted country well. The Army was lucky to have them.

jls4561

(2,109 posts)
3. Wait a minute! Alexander Vindman stole classified documents and hid them in his bathroom?
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 06:08 PM
Nov 2024

This is news to me.

mwooldri

(10,588 posts)
19. While I don't use the Ex Twitter service...
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 08:30 PM
Nov 2024

... I would see three reasons for progressives to use that platform:

1. Cross post from their primary platform content to X so it gets a possibility of being at least seen by normal people on X.

2. High profile progressives like Pete Buttigieg to rebut the super obvious lies that get circulated by certain X users. Example being the issue regarding federal funding for an electric vehicle charging network - a Republican Congress Rep reposted an inaccurate statement, Mr. Musk amplified it, Secretary Pete weighed in stating it was false and gave the real facts (or something in those lines, the exact details I can't remember off the top of my head). Which is odd since Mr. Musk appears to be heavily involved in a battery-elecrric vehicle company and should have been at least aware of the high level view of the program. Congress Rep Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez also uses X to good effect.

3. Those who are brave enough and want to take on the worst elements on X in a troll war. Which they'll probably lose as they're outgunned (figuratively speaking) and outnumbered (literally) in that arena.

My use is "read only", very occasional, and even less occasionally "liking" a progressive message. Enough to stop me from being cancelled there.

But certain progressive folks just don't need to do business there. I believe Stephen King has given up there and is elsewhere now. But don't quote me on this.

Comfortably_Numb

(4,175 posts)
8. Every time Leon Musky opens his mouth, he solidifies his reign as most despicable person in the world. Each utterance
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 06:25 PM
Nov 2024

worse than the last. What a POS.

slightlv

(5,094 posts)
17. I still say Trump has delegated the presidency to Elon...
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 08:24 PM
Nov 2024

and that's not constitutionally allowed. Not only is Elon not eligible to be president, but we do NOT have shadow presidents in this country. Not that I know if there's anything that can be done about it, since the whole of government seems to have been bought and sold by the Republicans and their oligarch friends.

PortTack

(35,369 posts)
35. He's a young t-rump..all the narcissistic traits coming out. He'll come to the same end..everything he touches will die
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 11:12 PM
Nov 2024

SunSeeker

(55,050 posts)
10. Republicans always accuse others of their own crimes.
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 06:33 PM
Nov 2024

Lock that crazy Afrikaner up for making a terrorist threat against a public official. He is basically calling for Trump's flying monkeys to come execute Vindman for treason. Stochastic terrorism is still terrorism.

Blue Owl

(55,583 posts)
11. It may not happen immediately...
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 06:38 PM
Nov 2024

But somehow I think this is all going to backfire spectacularly on Musk....

riversedge

(74,479 posts)
42. It seems that Elon Musk is fighting Trumps retribution fight now. I wonder if Trump put Musk up to this or
Thu Nov 28, 2024, 05:49 AM
Nov 2024

if Musk is doing this on his own.

TomSlick

(12,213 posts)
13. It appears Muskrat has no idea of the definition of treason.
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 07:52 PM
Nov 2024

I am increasingly glad the constitutional definition of "treason" is so narrow.

LiberalArkie

(17,574 posts)
14. In the country he is from and other like it, treason is saying anything against the ruling people. No so much
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 07:58 PM
Nov 2024

the country as anything against the ruling people. A lot of those countries a person can go to prison for saying the person needs a shave.

turbinetree

(25,846 posts)
24. This twit doesn't know one thing about the Constitution...............Vindman does.............dirtbag..........
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 09:13 PM
Nov 2024

can we see your cell phone records just for shits and giggles in the last say 3 years....................and threatening a person is against the law or did you miss that part when you went to the immigration hearing .............

I have an idea why don't you go into a senate hearing and testify..................and explain the below article.........

https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-citizenship-revoked-denaturalized/


............because if its true ..............your ass should be locked up now...................

hadEnuf

(3,027 posts)
39. Musk thinks he's the Fuhrer.
Thu Nov 28, 2024, 12:40 AM
Nov 2024

Charging witnesses with treason for giving testimony? Who the fuck does that frog-faced asshole think he is?

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(120,044 posts)
40. Apartheid nepo baby should've learned what treason is when he took his citizenship exam
Thu Nov 28, 2024, 03:39 AM
Nov 2024

One pledges allegiance to their country. They pledge it to a man.

taxi

(2,106 posts)
45. Would that be First Buddy Mx.K?
Thu Nov 28, 2024, 09:57 AM
Nov 2024
Mx.K First Buddy Mx.K.

Mrs. may sound like “MIS-iz” or “MIS-is” in parts of the midwestern United States. On the other hand, southerners may pronounce Mrs. as “MIZ-iz” or “miz.” And, making things more complicated, “miz” is also the pronunciation of Ms. Therefore, in the South, Mrs. and Ms. may sound identical.

Finally, Mx. can sound like “mix” or “muhx.” And you’re more likely to hear it spoken aloud in the UK than in the US, as the term is more widely known and used there



https://www.grammarly.com/blog/commonly-confused-words/ms-mrs-miss-difference/

LetMyPeopleVote

(159,754 posts)
47. Alexander Vindman RESPONDS to Elon Musk's threat that he will "pay" for his "treason"
Fri Nov 29, 2024, 07:15 PM
Nov 2024


“Elon, here you go again making false and completely unfounded accusations without providing any specifics. That’s the kind of response one would expect from a conspiracy theorist. What oligarch? What treason?

Let me help you out with the facts: I don’t take/have never taken money from any money from oligarchs Ukrainian or other otherwise.

I do run a nonprofit foundation. The http://HereRightMattersFoundatiom.org to help Ukraine defend itself from Russia’s unprovoked attack on Feb 24, 2022. I served in the military for nearly 22 years and my loyalty is to supporting the U.S. Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. That’s why I reported presidential corruption when I witnessed an effort to steal an election. That report was in classified channels and when called by Congress to testify about presidential corruption I did so, as required by law.

You, Elon, appear to believe you can act with impunity and are attempting to silence your critics. I’m not intimidated.”
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