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highplainsdem

(52,834 posts)
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 07:37 PM Nov 27

'A cheap magic trick': Amazon, Google, Meta accused of dodging Senate questions

Source: Australia's The Age

Artificial intelligence chatbots ChatGPT, Google’s Gemini and Meta’s Llama should be deemed “high-risk” and subjected to mandatory transparency, testing and accountability requirements, a Senate inquiry has found, with US tech giant executives facing heavy criticism for dodging its questions.

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“Watching Amazon, Meta, and Google dodge questions during the hearings was like sitting through a cheap magic trick ... Plenty of hand-waving, a puff of smoke, and nothing to show for it in the end,” said the committee’s chair, Labor Senator Tony Sheldon.

“These tech giants aren’t pioneers; they’re pirates – pillaging our culture, data, and creativity for their gain while leaving Australians empty-handed.

“They want to set their own rules, but Australians need laws that protect rights, not Silicon Valley’s bottom line. We need new standalone AI laws to rein in big tech and put strong protections in place for high-risk AI uses, while existing laws should be amended as necessary.”

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Read more: https://www.theage.com.au/technology/a-cheap-magic-trick-amazon-google-meta-accused-of-dodging-senate-questions-20241126-p5ktlc.html



We need our US politicians to be at least as skeptical of the AI peddlers as the Australians have been.

But that's even less likely now, with Elon Musk's influence on Trump - plus the influence of other rightwing tech bros.

This is what Musk's AI is doing to Memphis:

https://harvardpublichealth.org/environmental-health/xai-memphis-project-owes-city-more-than-promises-on-environment/

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So far, the Memphis project is not a model of how to do much more than move fast and break things. As NPR recently detailed, critics are concerned the tool “has fewer rules than other AI chatbots and has been known for creating controversial deepfake images, such as Mickey Mouse as a Nazi and Kamala Harris in lingerie,” as well as more indifference to curbing misinformation.

And that’s just the technology; the physical impact of the facility has also caused concern. It’s being built in South Memphis, known for both historically Black neighborhoods and poor air quality. It will place significant demands on the city’s electricity and water systems, and the impacts on both could harm residents.

To address these problems, xAI has made only promises—to coordinate with the city’s electric and water utility on a greywater facility and to install at least 50 megawatts (MW) of large battery storage facilities. So far, the promises aren’t plans; they’re talking points on a one-page factsheet, which lacks any mention of a timetable or detailed construction plan. And there are few avenues for accountability: The company has held no public meetings, nor communicated directly with the media. City officials signed nondisclosure agreements in order to engage xAI in negotiations to bring the plant to Memphis.

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In fact, xAI has already begun polluting—without the necessary permits, according to local environmental groups—in a neighborhood already burdened by legacy pollution from a coal power plant. And the supercomputer in question, Colossus, is already online, according to Musk’s social media account. If, as environmentalists fear, the plant affects the water supply, then the whole city will be harmed.

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msongs

(70,275 posts)
1. senators are the ultimate question dodgers lol. why are they so incensed when others do it nt
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 07:42 PM
Nov 27

EarnestPutz

(2,683 posts)
2. Jeez, America, you're late to the party on this one. I'm not sure what an "Australian Labor Senator" is......
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 07:44 PM
Nov 27

.......but we could use a half a dozen of in very short order. Government inaction on this issue is going to prove disastrous in the short and long terms.

Ndp5

(94 posts)
3. That is unfair to pirates
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 07:47 PM
Nov 27

The tech bros are parasites, is more like it.

The U.S. should be leading the way on this, but we’re not even following the lead of Australia, Canada and Europe. It’s blatant regulatory capture. Just embarrassing.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,825 posts)
4. In other words, it's like talking to a Trump pick for the Extreme Court
Thu Nov 28, 2024, 10:11 AM
Nov 28

Canned answers and outright lies.

FakeNoose

(36,003 posts)
5. I have an Android phone and I keep getting spam messages from "Gemini"
Thu Nov 28, 2024, 11:27 AM
Nov 28

Never open them, never interact. Delete them!

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