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BumRushDaShow

(144,199 posts)
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 03:29 PM Dec 1

Trudeau promised Trump tougher border controls, says top Canada official

Source: Reuters

December 1, 20243:14 PM ESTUpdated 14 min ago


OTTAWA, Dec 1 (Reuters) - Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau promised President-elect Donald Trump that Canada would toughen controls over the long undefended joint border, a senior Canadian official said on Sunday.

Trudeau flew to Florida on Friday to have dinner with Trump, who has promised to slap tariffs on Canadian imports unless Ottawa prevents migrants and drugs from crossing the frontier. Canada sends 75% of all goods and services exports to the United States and tariffs would badly hurt the economy.

Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc, who sat at the head table with Trudeau and Trump, said the two men discussed additional security measures Canada would be introducing. "We're going to look to procure, for example, additional drones, additional police helicopters, we're going to redeploy personnel ... we believe that the border is secure," he told the Canadian Broadcasting Corp.

"It's important, I think, to show Canadians and the Americans that we're stepping up in a visible and muscular way, and that's exactly what we're going to do," he added, promising more details in the days and weeks to come. Canada, he said, would continue to make the case that tariffs would damage both nations, given how interconnected the two economies are.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trudeau-promised-trump-tougher-border-controls-says-top-canada-official-2024-12-01/

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Trudeau promised Trump tougher border controls, says top Canada official (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 1 OP
They should stop illegal space aliens too. GreenWave Dec 1 #1
Mars should build a wall to keep the Musk(rat)s away Montauk6 Dec 1 #14
Seems like a bit of overreaction The Madcap Dec 1 #2
Is Trump getting what he wants by strong arming people? Irish_Dem Dec 1 #3
Yes. That's what happens when you are global powerhouse ruled by a strongman.nt kelly1mm Dec 1 #6
Everyone is paying homage and making nice with the new mob boss. Irish_Dem Dec 1 #8
Yes the figurative (maybe literal?) kissing of the ring/bending the knee is a sight to behold. nt kelly1mm Dec 1 #9
Oh there is some actual kissing going on for sure. Irish_Dem Dec 1 #11
Chamberlain visits hitler in his retreat. JohnSJ Dec 1 #4
Excellent reference. nt moniss Dec 2 #20
Canada's border controls are already tougher than ours FakeNoose Dec 1 #5
2 problems with that. 1) The NY case looks like it is possibly going to be dismissed/ended before kelly1mm Dec 1 #7
Flush the felating felon! nt Xipe Totec Dec 1 #15
Are there many people trying to cross into US from Canada? LisaL Dec 1 #10
Many is relative. Compared to MX into USA, no. However there is a thriving industry of commonwealth country kelly1mm Dec 1 #12
It is Americans who are fleeing to Canada not the other way around LetMyPeopleVote Dec 1 #13
I hope this doesn't make travel harder. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 1 #16
I hope so Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 1 #17
Canada was preparing for Trump and the "border crisis" before the election as a contingency. C0RI0LANUS Dec 1 #18
I think it is a mistake for any leader to give in to the bully moniss Dec 2 #19

The Madcap

(574 posts)
2. Seems like a bit of overreaction
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 03:35 PM
Dec 1

From T****. From the numbers I have seen, the number of people crossing south from Canada is less than 1/10th that crossing from Mexico. Maybe T**** just wants Canada to build a wall to prevent escapes from the U.S.

Irish_Dem

(59,696 posts)
8. Everyone is paying homage and making nice with the new mob boss.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 05:36 PM
Dec 1

And he is getting what he wants.

kelly1mm

(5,413 posts)
9. Yes the figurative (maybe literal?) kissing of the ring/bending the knee is a sight to behold. nt
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 05:39 PM
Dec 1

Irish_Dem

(59,696 posts)
11. Oh there is some actual kissing going on for sure.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 06:10 PM
Dec 1

Probably best not to think about that part of it.

FakeNoose

(36,003 posts)
5. Canada's border controls are already tougher than ours
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 04:12 PM
Dec 1

For example, Chump will never be allowed into Canada because he's a convicted felon.

Link: https://milwaukee-criminal-lawyer.com/travel-as-felon-banned-countries/

kelly1mm

(5,413 posts)
7. 2 problems with that. 1) The NY case looks like it is possibly going to be dismissed/ended before
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 05:34 PM
Dec 1

sentencing which under NY law would vacate the conviction and President Trump would no longer be a felon. 2) I can almost guarantee President Trump will be in Canada sometime between January 2025 and January 2029 at some type of bilateral/multilateral summit/conference.

LisaL

(46,754 posts)
10. Are there many people trying to cross into US from Canada?
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 05:43 PM
Dec 1

It seems like it would be the other way around.

kelly1mm

(5,413 posts)
12. Many is relative. Compared to MX into USA, no. However there is a thriving industry of commonwealth country
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 06:15 PM
Dec 1

citizens granted entry into Canada on student visas who really just want to cross into the USA.

Here is a link to a story about it:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/2-men-convicted-of-charges-related-to-human-smuggling-after-scheme-led-to-an-indian-family-s-death/ar-AA1uA2WF?ocid=BingNewsSerp

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,929 posts)
16. I hope this doesn't make travel harder.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 08:53 PM
Dec 1

I enjoy the relatively painless process of flying into Toronto from the states.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,862 posts)
18. Canada was preparing for Trump and the "border crisis" before the election as a contingency.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 10:44 PM
Dec 1

Canadian officials were planning to add patrols, buy new vehicles and set up emergency reception facilities at the border between New York State and the province of Quebec in preparation for a surge of undocumented migrants following Donald Trump’s promised mass deportation program. Basically the Canadian PM personally updated the President-elect on what Trumpf's staffers could have easily informed him.

"From Oct 2023 to Sep 2024, more than 19,300 undocumented migrants were apprehended by US authorities at the border between Quebec and Vermont, NYS, and New Hampshire, a 300-percent jump from the 6,925 apprehended during the same period the previous year. The figure for Oct 2020 to Sep 2021 was just 365 people."


Migrants who had crossed the border from Canada, many of them from India, talking to taxi drivers in Plattsburgh, NY, who were offering rides to NYC. Photo: Anna Watts for The New York Times


"More than 12,000 of the 19,300 people detained were Indian nationals, underscoring a booming migrant smuggling route from India to the US via Canada."


Six Indian nationals, aged 19-21 years, were arrested by the US border authorities after they were apprehended on a sinking boat during a failed attempt to be smuggled into America from Canada. They were charged with “Improper Entry by Alien.” (Undated photo: Reuters)

Sources:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/world/canada/canada-immigration-trump-mass-deportation.html

No paywall: https://archive.is/gDtcK

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/mandate/policies-operational-instructions-agreements/agreements/safe-third-country-agreement.html

Xenophobia is tragically affecting both sides of the world’s largest undefended border, whose G-7 economies grew thanks to the blood, sweat, and tears of millions of immigrants toiling in the farms, factories, mines, fisheries, and slaughterhouses for two hundred years in the US and Canada. Every year thousands of migrants sacrifice their life savings or indeed their very lives trying to make their way to places such as the US, Canada, the EU, or Australia just to merely survive.


At least 8,565 people died on migration routes worldwide in 2023 according to the International Office of Migration (IOM). Undated photo above of migrants courtesy of the Vatican News Service.




moniss

(6,150 posts)
19. I think it is a mistake for any leader to give in to the bully
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 05:00 AM
Dec 2

and allow him to make it appear that his bullying has gotten something he wanted. It's fine for Trudeau to go but the message and meeting should have been short and direct. "Do not make threats against us and then expect dialogue. If at some point in the future you change your approach and look at your neighbors as friends to talk to rather than bully then by all means we can have conversations. Until that time I have come all this way to personally emphasize to you that any bullying or threats by you or anybody else will be met with rejection. Now I will leave." Then Trudeau could have stood for all times as a heroic symbol of Resistance if he would have come out, faced the cameras and said "I had few things to say but I will reiterate that anybody trying to bully or threaten Canada can Go F**k Themselves and that includes the incoming administration."

For heaven's sake didn't these leaders learn anything from the first go round? Don't humor or entertain this crap even for a moment. Publicly humiliating a bully by openly rejecting their tactics is the best course.

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