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speak easy

(10,701 posts)
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 06:05 PM Dec 2

Trump Threatens 'Hell to Pay' Unless Gaza Hostages Are Freed Before Inauguration

Source: New York Times

President-elect Donald J. Trump on Monday demanded that the hostages taken in the Hamas-led attack on Israel be released from Gaza before his inauguration in January, or there will be “hell to pay” in the Middle East for those responsible.

Writing on Truth Social, and without naming any militant group, Mr. Trump said in his post: “If the hostages are not released prior to January 20, 2025, the date that I proudly assume Office as President of the United States, there will be ALL HELL TO PAY in the Middle East, and for those in charge who perpetrated these atrocities against Humanity. Those responsible will be hit harder than anybody has been hit in the long and storied History of the United States of America. RELEASE THE HOSTAGES NOW!”

About 250 hostages were captured in the Hamas-led attack on Israel on Oct, 7, 2023, and about 100 of them remain in Gaza, with about a third believed to be dead, according to the Israeli authorities. The Biden administration has been working since last year with Israel and international mediators, including Qatar and Egypt, on a cease-fire deal that would include release of the hostages.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/02/world/middleeast/trump-gaza-hostages-inauguration.html



1980 - 81 : Carter / Reagan / Iran
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Trump Threatens 'Hell to Pay' Unless Gaza Hostages Are Freed Before Inauguration (Original Post) speak easy Dec 2 OP
I don't know who he is threatening. All the Hamas Klarkashton Dec 2 #1
Iran speak easy Dec 2 #3
What's he going to do? Make the rubble into smaller rubble? Ray Bruns Dec 3 #27
He is doing this so Beachnutt Dec 2 #2
"he can take credit for it" speak easy Dec 2 #6
Remember that he now has access to daily security briefings. Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2 #8
Key Words... GB_RN Dec 2 #13
He won't bother with the PDB...... AZ8theist Dec 2 #19
Too Late, Hell has been paid over and over. The account is nearly exhausted. N/T Big Blue Marble Dec 2 #4
the dotard bullying his way for a Nobel Peace Prize IzzaNuDay Dec 2 #5
Is he trying to interfere with Biden's negotiations? Irish_Dem Dec 2 #7
How much more 'rubble bouncing' in Gaza will needed to prod Hamas to release the hostages? nt kelly1mm Dec 2 #9
I think you are exactly right - the man is an absolute of garbage. walkingman Dec 2 #10
Nixon interfered with LBJ's 1968 peace talks with South Vietnam too. GOP playbook: Weaken Dems, take credit later. C0RI0LANUS Dec 2 #12
So this 'Hell' Trump is threatening to escalate? Aussie105 Dec 2 #11
Give the OK to bomb Iran IMO speak easy Dec 2 #15
"PRONE TO"?????????????? AZ8theist Dec 2 #20
Oh well we can do it Dec 2 #14
What a blowhard Picaro Dec 2 #16
Now he thinks he's fucking Ronald Reagan. hadEnuf Dec 2 #17
Reagan did the same shtick PSPS Dec 2 #18
There won't be any non-cultists to get in the way of Trump's whims this time. LudwigPastorius Dec 2 #21
If Joe gets them released, Caligula gets credit. usonian Dec 2 #22
The Biden administration worked hard to get the hostages freed. SECSTATE Antony Blinken flew to Israel 11x. C0RI0LANUS Dec 3 #23
Hes just trying to rob Biden of the glory if there is a cease fire Figarosmom Dec 3 #24
Maybe Trump will carpet bomb Dearborn Mi. Pototan Dec 3 #25
His message did not mention Hamas IronLionZion Dec 3 #26
Well, hope those who didn't vote for VP Harris because of gasa are aware that they are responsible for more yaesu Dec 3 #28
All hat no cattle for big man with tiny penis! machoneman Dec 3 #29
Hell Will Be Paid By The Hostages DallasNE Dec 3 #30

Klarkashton

(2,285 posts)
1. I don't know who he is threatening. All the Hamas
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 06:06 PM
Dec 2

Leadership has been assassinated as far as I know.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,929 posts)
8. Remember that he now has access to daily security briefings.
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 06:14 PM
Dec 2

Because of this he is probably aware that the hostages are going to gibe released prior to the inauguration .

So he’s trying to make it look like it happens because of his threats.

GB_RN

(3,217 posts)
13. Key Words...
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 07:24 PM
Dec 2

“Access to…” are not even in the same universe as “Actually pays attention to and absorbs the information.” 😂
Let’s face it, unless they included cartoons (my word), Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent didn’t even bother to look like he was paying attention to the briefings. And that was before he was as deranged as he is now, so I don’t think that situation is going to change anytime soon.

IzzaNuDay

(688 posts)
5. the dotard bullying his way for a Nobel Peace Prize
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 06:09 PM
Dec 2

I think the Nobel prize adjudicators know there are folks more qualified than him. Too bad no one is telling the dotard it’s a futile effort. What’s he going to do, threaten to harm the adjudicators?

Irish_Dem

(59,689 posts)
7. Is he trying to interfere with Biden's negotiations?
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 06:13 PM
Dec 2

I thought the US only had one president at a time?

walkingman

(8,545 posts)
10. I think you are exactly right - the man is an absolute of garbage.
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 06:17 PM
Dec 2
1980 - 81 : Carter / Reagan / Iran


It is all a setup for the despicable MAGA to claim their felon POTUS is a great man and promote him as a great dealmaker when in fact he is a total con man.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,860 posts)
12. Nixon interfered with LBJ's 1968 peace talks with South Vietnam too. GOP playbook: Weaken Dems, take credit later.
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 06:56 PM
Dec 2


Nixon's "treason" against LBJ link: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668

Netanyahu could easily release any of the THOUSANDS of Palestinians held incommunicado in IDF prisons to free the Israeli and American hostages in a prisoner swap after Joe Biden is gone. Three such exchanges took place before 2024. The freed hostages will make Trumpf look strong like Ronald Reagan in 1981.

Then the Dotard repays Bibi with more funding and ignoring other sins. This is the Repub-Likud way.



Aussie105

(6,467 posts)
11. So this 'Hell' Trump is threatening to escalate?
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 06:47 PM
Dec 2

Bluffing?
Going to send more bombs to Bibi?
American boots on the ground?
Going to send Bibi some nukes?

Don't forget Trump is prone to being stupid, and the more stupid it sounds to you and me, the more likely Trump is to do it.

AZ8theist

(6,555 posts)
20. "PRONE TO"??????????????
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 08:55 PM
Dec 2

I think that ship sailed decades ago. The man-baby is an absolute IMBECILE.

PSPS

(14,194 posts)
18. Reagan did the same shtick
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 07:58 PM
Dec 2

Back then, Iran was on track to release the hostages but saint ronnie bribed them to keep them until after the election so he could cinch the election and then claim credit.

In this case, since trump is purely transactional, this is probably something like his way of giving his fellow criminal bibi cover to raze all of gaza so trump/kushner can build resorts on the Mediterranean.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,860 posts)
23. The Biden administration worked hard to get the hostages freed. SECSTATE Antony Blinken flew to Israel 11x.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:56 AM
Dec 3

This editorial is from Netanyahu's enemy in Israel, Ha'aretz, a newspaper he wants to close down:

"The Hostages Are Both Suffering and Dying, and Netanyahu Doesn't Care"



Israeli media estimated that about 10,000 people attended this protest, while organizers placed the number at 25,000. (Photo: Menahem Kahana /AFP)

Sources:

No paywall: https://archive.is/L8nzX

Original: https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2024-07-23/ty-article-opinion/the-hostages-are-both-suffering-and-dying-and-netanyahu-doesnt-care/00000190-e11b-dbe5-a7fa-f77b564b0000

Figarosmom

(3,293 posts)
24. Hes just trying to rob Biden of the glory if there is a cease fire
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 03:08 AM
Dec 3

He'll say it was because they are afraid of him. He's going to flatten Gaza either way. It benefits him to have Gaza gone

Pototan

(2,123 posts)
25. Maybe Trump will carpet bomb Dearborn Mi.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 03:39 AM
Dec 3

after all, Trump doesn't need those "useful idiots" any longer.

yaesu

(8,356 posts)
28. Well, hope those who didn't vote for VP Harris because of gasa are aware that they are responsible for more
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 09:26 AM
Dec 3

gaza deaths when the fascist nazi unleashes his hell.

DallasNE

(7,589 posts)
30. Hell Will Be Paid By The Hostages
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 10:35 AM
Dec 3

The hostages will be killed 1-2 per day once Trump starts to bomb.

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