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BumRushDaShow

(144,197 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:09 AM Dec 9

Miller outlines how Trump administration would prioritize mass deportations

Source: Axios

Updated 9 hours ago


Stephen Miller, the incoming White House deputy chief of staff for policy, on Sunday gave new details on the Trump administration's plan for what he called "the largest deportation operation in American history."

Why it matters: Miller made clear during his interview on Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures" that deportations would be Trump's no.1 priority ahead of issues including making reforms to tax and trade and the debt ceiling.

  • President-elect Trump has vowed to crack down on immigration and start mass deportations on Day 1 of his presidency, though the operation would be hard to achieve without major structural overhauls.


  • What they're saying: Miller said on Fox News that first, incoming Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) have "promised that they can get a full funding package for the border, the most significant board of security investment in American history ... to the president's desk in January or early February."

  • That would mean a "massive increase" in Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers working on Trump's deportation operation and a "historic increase in border agents," with both getting a pay rise, Miller told Fox News' Maria Bartiromo.
  • There would be "full funding for ICE beds, full funding for air and marine operations, full funding for all of the barriers and technology that you need to ensure there's never another got-away entering this country," Miller added.


  • Worth noting: Trump aides have previously said the president-elect would prioritize deporting dangerous criminals — something the federal government already does.

  • An Axios review of the most recent immigration court records found that less than .5% of over 1 million cases last year resulted in deportation orders for alleged crimes other than illegal entry into the U.S.


  • Read more: https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/trump-mass-deportations-stephen-miller-border
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    Miller outlines how Trump administration would prioritize mass deportations (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 9 OP
    Full funding package to his desk by Jan or Feb wryter2000 Dec 9 #1
    Is that the same bipartisan one TSF told them not to vote for this year? sinkingfeeling Dec 9 #8
    I expect it is more Middle Ages in nature. travelingthrulife Dec 9 #14
    Good question wryter2000 Dec 9 #24
    They'll never deport as many as they've promised either. Its all words. Callie1979 Dec 9 #39
    That's what I've been thinking wryter2000 Dec 9 #40
    Who . . . AverageOldGuy Dec 9 #2
    "Sounds as though no one has thought through" BumRushDaShow Dec 9 #3
    Think things thru?? You jest PortTack Dec 9 #23
    If He Ever RobinA Dec 9 #28
    Tom Homan, Trump's border czar, has already promised workplace raids. Lonestarblue Dec 9 #4
    Are they going to raid Felon 47's Florida hotel? BonnieJW Dec 9 #29
    About 10 years i thought that immigration enforcement peregrinus Dec 9 #5
    Remember that before 2003, ICE didn't exist BumRushDaShow Dec 9 #7
    Lots of militia in this country. They will let the good old boys 'have at it' travelingthrulife Dec 9 #15
    Thought????? Sailingdiver Dec 9 #21
    in summation: a massive grift and money laundering operation. nt Javaman Dec 9 #6
    Ahhh, yes. Steven Miller is to be the new leader of the brown boots in this Country, who will bang on any and all SWBTATTReg Dec 9 #9
    Don't they already have a blueprint to follow? Kristallnacht anybody? Botany Dec 9 #10
    One wonders how many citizens will be swept up and deported sakabatou Dec 9 #11
    I can guarantee you that they won't be white. ananda Dec 9 #13
    Or rich. Orrex Dec 9 #17
    This is going to have a horrendous effect on the economy... ananda Dec 9 #12
    Let the whining & complaining begin DownriverDem Dec 9 #16
    Sounds like an excuse to raise an army of thugs who'll be used against us internally and that we citizens will have to . Magoo48 Dec 9 #18
    They sound like plans to create a USA-Gestapo. Escurumbele Dec 9 #19
    They should deport rapists convicted of more than 33 felonies Orrex Dec 9 #20
    It was never about the economy Owens Dec 9 #22
    Our currency will become that Crypto Crap. Stole the election and now they are gonna to steal the .... Botany Dec 9 #26
    This is when JustAnotherGen Dec 9 #32
    If there's going to be the civil war that the republicans so desperately want, the deportations BComplex Dec 9 #25
    The economy will be upended.... Lovie777 Dec 9 #27
    Miller is creepier than any ax murderer or other movie villain I have ever seen. milestogo Dec 9 #30
    Do the meatpacking industry 1st. The fallout will make egg-price voters rend their garments. maxsolomon Dec 9 #31
    I think the Trump fascists will leave the red state zorbasd Dec 9 #33
    Yes, that's occurred to me, too. maxsolomon Dec 9 #34
    Outright saying this is their #1 priority...so much for "muh economy." Fucking idiot voters, all. Karasu Dec 9 #35
    Miller really wants this most of the rest just want it to look like they did it jgmiller Dec 9 #36
    Go back to bed, America. Fox News is in control. Initech Dec 9 #38
    I'd rather just deport Stephen Miller. Nothing of value would be lost there. Initech Dec 9 #37
    Where is the response from democrats? oldmanlynn Dec 9 #41
    I don't see how he can pull this shit off without using the military, which opens up a whole other can of worms. Karasu Dec 9 #42

    wryter2000

    (47,600 posts)
    1. Full funding package to his desk by Jan or Feb
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:18 AM
    Dec 9

    1. Not sure Thune is as excited about this as Miller thinks
    2. There is another party in the congress.
    3. A funding package still has to be executed.

    None of this adds up to major expulsions “on day 1.”

    wryter2000

    (47,600 posts)
    24. Good question
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:42 AM
    Dec 9

    I tend to doubt it. I don’t think that one was in support of mass deportation. But it sure would have been helpful to their efforts.

    AverageOldGuy

    (2,169 posts)
    2. Who . . .
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:23 AM
    Dec 9

    . . . who will track down, arrest, and prosecute these lawbreakers?

    Neither ICE, nor Border Patrol, nor any other federal agency has the manpower and local knowledge to track down everyone in this country illegally.

    So -- do we employ the military? Exactly how will that happen?

    Turn it over to local cops and prosecutors?

    Sounds as though no one has thought through the mechanics of deporting a few million people.

    But, then, this is Trump and his band of thugs we are talking about.

    BumRushDaShow

    (144,197 posts)
    3. "Sounds as though no one has thought through"
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:34 AM
    Dec 9

    Of course they didn't think it through. They never have to.

    It's all campaign rhetoric that their lapdog M$M will dutifully report as if it was possible or practical - even helping them keep up the ruse by promoting it via multiple stories with all kinds of hypothetical possibilities of how it can be implemented, and legitimizing it with the nonsensical internet-fad bullshit term "It's complicated".

    Lonestarblue

    (11,982 posts)
    4. Tom Homan, Trump's border czar, has already promised workplace raids.
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 07:23 AM
    Dec 9

    As head of ICE, he conducted such raids in the past. The locations of many undocumented workers are known because they work in major food processing plants around the country. The question is whether Trump will target them for an easy win and claims of deporting thousands at the risk of causing food prices to rise, for which he will be blamed. If he chooses to deport the more recent migrants who are now spread around the country, they may be harder to find. Any Haitian still living in Springfield, Ohio, will be a quick target. I suspect their targets will be the more recent migrants, some of whom may easily be found in shelters in major cities like New York, Chicago, Boston, Dallas, Houston.

    BonnieJW

    (2,605 posts)
    29. Are they going to raid Felon 47's Florida hotel?
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 12:37 PM
    Dec 9

    Lots of immigrants there, and I'm thinking they're not all documented.

    peregrinus

    (409 posts)
    5. About 10 years i thought that immigration enforcement
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 07:37 AM
    Dec 9

    Was something tat happened in Arizona and Texas. I was kind of surprised to see ICE operating out of the local Federal building.

    BumRushDaShow

    (144,197 posts)
    7. Remember that before 2003, ICE didn't exist
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:08 AM
    Dec 9

    It came into existence with the creation of the Department of Homeland Security in 2002 which included combining "Customs" (which was originally under the Department of Treasury) with "INS" (Immigration and Naturalization Service, originally under DOJ), to create "CBP" (Customs and Border Protection), "USCIS" (U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services), and "ICE" (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) - all under DHS.

    In any case, every major city has a "Customs/Immigration"-related office, with multiple satellite offices.

    Sailingdiver

    (187 posts)
    21. Thought?????
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:13 AM
    Dec 9

    The terms trump and thought should never be used in the same sentence. The orange imbecile and his gang of idiots make statements simply to foment his cult.

    SWBTATTReg

    (24,332 posts)
    9. Ahhh, yes. Steven Miller is to be the new leader of the brown boots in this Country, who will bang on any and all
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:42 AM
    Dec 9

    doors, regardless of the actual citizenship status of their victims. They will be banging on everybody's door, in theory just to stir up things and try and drive victims into unwitting moves that will reveal their locations.

    Botany

    (72,660 posts)
    10. Don't they already have a blueprint to follow? Kristallnacht anybody?
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:48 AM
    Dec 9


    Btw how many undocumented workers has Trump used?

    Wouldn’t Melania and maybe her folks have been picked up in one of these round ups.

    ananda

    (30,933 posts)
    12. This is going to have a horrendous effect on the economy...
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:54 AM
    Dec 9

    and on the food supply and construction industries, among
    other supply chains.

    If you add tariffs to that, we are totally screwed.

    DownriverDem

    (6,679 posts)
    16. Let the whining & complaining begin
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 09:47 AM
    Dec 9

    There will be shortages of employees in farms, restaurants, factories, construction, nannies, maids and gardeners.

    Magoo48

    (5,536 posts)
    18. Sounds like an excuse to raise an army of thugs who'll be used against us internally and that we citizens will have to .
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 09:49 AM
    Dec 9

    pay for.
    We must resist them wherever possible. I’m confident that we here in the California Republic can depend upon our government to keep them at bay, and
    with grassroots support, we will be able to do just that.
    State and local governments must realize power inherent in the support of those willing to participate in he maintaining our own liberties.

    Escurumbele

    (3,647 posts)
    19. They sound like plans to create a USA-Gestapo.
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 09:52 AM
    Dec 9

    The Gestapo was responsible for terrorizing and suppressing political opponents, Jews, and other minorities during the Nazi regime.

    If that is not what they have been talking about, please correct me if I am wrong...It comes from the Nazi blueprint.

    Owens

    (352 posts)
    22. It was never about the economy
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:26 AM
    Dec 9

    Just watch the economy crash within months of Trump taking office, he will resign and Vance will take over and pardon Trump and his family from all crimes.

    Botany

    (72,660 posts)
    26. Our currency will become that Crypto Crap. Stole the election and now they are gonna to steal the ....
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:56 AM
    Dec 9

    ….. American People’s funds with the scam from hell. Crypto.

    A monetary system based on fraud. You give me your real wealth, money, property, or other
    “things of value” and you’ll get a parking spot on the web or something to do with silicon and
    electrons that really has no value.

    JustAnotherGen

    (33,814 posts)
    32. This is when
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 02:44 PM
    Dec 9

    We need older people in Congress on both sides to put a stop to this. IE - I don't think Thune or McConnell would be willing to move to that.

    BComplex

    (9,154 posts)
    25. If there's going to be the civil war that the republicans so desperately want, the deportations
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:44 AM
    Dec 9

    crime might actually cause such a thing.

    Lovie777

    (15,217 posts)
    27. The economy will be upended....
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:17 AM
    Dec 9

    with tariffs and firing, laying off qualified workers where some job positions will go to unqualified persons with fucked up psychopaths running the government badly.

    Yeah, the USA will suck.

    maxsolomon

    (35,358 posts)
    31. Do the meatpacking industry 1st. The fallout will make egg-price voters rend their garments.
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 01:28 PM
    Dec 9

    Then do restaurants, fruit picking and construction.

    The bigger the crackdown, the more MAGAts will squeal when everything skyrockets in price, or straight up can't be accomplished.

    zorbasd

    (260 posts)
    33. I think the Trump fascists will leave the red state
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 03:46 PM
    Dec 9

    Meatpacking places alone, such as IA, NE, SD, MO, AR, TX, etc.

    maxsolomon

    (35,358 posts)
    34. Yes, that's occurred to me, too.
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 04:27 PM
    Dec 9

    They have their industry reps in DC bend the knee to MFer, and voila, the roundup focus is pointed elsewhere.

    Karasu

    (368 posts)
    35. Outright saying this is their #1 priority...so much for "muh economy." Fucking idiot voters, all.
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 05:08 PM
    Dec 9

    jgmiller

    (449 posts)
    36. Miller really wants this most of the rest just want it to look like they did it
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 05:17 PM
    Dec 9

    Trump couldn't care less if they deport 1M, 2M or whatever fantasy number Miller and his SS crew want to be thrown out. All he wants are a few photo ops of ICE arresting people and putting them on a plane to somewhere then it will get replayed over and over again until it becomes a reality in all of his followers minds that he deported them all.

    There's a guy I watch on YouTube that travels around the country showing different areas and talking about the history of the area. He never mentions politics but I get the impression he's closer to MAGA than the center. In any case a few times he's gone to border towns and areas where there is no fence, no visible border patrol etc. and he's commented about how he doesn't see hoards of people trying to cross or anyone in the towns even caring about it. He's also commented how easy it would seem to be to cross there.

    So even he seems to realize it's all just an illusion, yes there are lots of people that cross it's been that way for decades but there isn't an invading army of people trying to get in. This is the kind of stuff that needs to get traction, show the reality of it all.

    Initech

    (102,511 posts)
    38. Go back to bed, America. Fox News is in control.
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 05:20 PM
    Dec 9

    There, there. Don't listen to the stories of greedy CEOs making 15,000 times what you are worth, while you are denied healthcare and surgery for the 7th time. Instead, here's some bullshit about immigrants coming over the border, trans women in sports, and which department stores don't greet you with Merry Christmas when you enter them. Shhhhh.. it's going to be all right.

    Initech

    (102,511 posts)
    37. I'd rather just deport Stephen Miller. Nothing of value would be lost there.
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 05:18 PM
    Dec 9

    Fuck that Nazi scumbag.

    oldmanlynn

    (510 posts)
    41. Where is the response from democrats?
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 07:49 PM
    Dec 9

    I cant stand the Republican criminals but one thing is sure. They certainly get out and talk about what they are gonna do. No matter if its bad or not. Most of the time there os only their voice and dems are content to be quiet and let it play out and many ways detrimental to their own cause.

    Karasu

    (368 posts)
    42. I don't see how he can pull this shit off without using the military, which opens up a whole other can of worms.
    Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:13 PM
    Dec 9
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