Britain bans puberty blockers for transgender minors

[HereForTheParty]

Source: NBC News

The United Kingdom on Wednesday indefinitely banned new prescriptions of puberty blockers to treat minors for gender dysphoria. The announcement comes a week after the U.S. Supreme Court heard oral arguments in a case involving state bans on puberty-suppressing medication and other forms of transition-related care for minors.

Puberty blockers are commonly prescribed to transgender children in countries throughout the Western world to delay the onset of puberty or pause it as it is transpiring. The medication is prescribed with the goal of giving children who are experiencing gender dysphoria more time to decide if they want to take more permanent steps to transition genders. Puberty resumes when the medication is no longer taken.

The indefinite ban on the medication in Britain comes several months after an independent study commissioned by England’s National Health Service concluded that the medical evidence around transition-related care for minors is “remarkably weak” and that more research is needed.

“Children’s healthcare must always be evidence-led,” British Health and Social Care Secretary Wes Streeting said in a press release. “The independent expert Commission on Human Medicines found that the current prescribing and care pathway for gender dysphoria and incongruence presents an unacceptable safety risk for children and young people.”

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-politics-and-policy/britain-bans-puberty-blockers-transgender-minors-rcna183839

[onecaliberal]

1. Fuck these people to hell.

[kelly1mm]

3. The National Health Service under the control of the Labour Party in the UK? F those people? nt

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[onecaliberal]

4. What did those people just do?

[kelly1mm]

5. Made a decision that we are not allowed to discuss the pros and cons of here on DU. nt

[LostOne4Ever]

13. If you want to discuss that

FREEPERVILLE is that way.

———>


We don’t debate people basic rights on the left! Just as we don’t debate any minority’s rights.

[BootOutTheGoons]

18. Reading between the lines

I'm really beginning to think some people think it's okay to "debate" trans rights because they don't even think trans people are human beings

[AZSkiffyGeek]

28. Certainly looks that way to me

Because it's usually not about "debating" - it's about defining how I'm not a real woman. And complaining about not being able to be a bigot here.

[BootOutTheGoons]

43. Nothing but hate

And the kind of shit that wouldn't be allowed here about any other minority. But time and time again it happens here

[LostOne4Ever]

12. The Cass Review was done under the Tories

And Wes Streeting is an oppurtunistic politician who will gladly throw trans CHILDREN under the bus to promote himself as third way.

Fortunately there are Labour members with back bones fighting him.

[Celerity]

33. related subject: Labour's Keir Starmer backs trans sports bans: 'Common sense has to prevail'

https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/03/12/keir-starmer-trans-athletes-ban/

Keir Starmer has said he supports a ban on trans women competing in women’s sports. In recent months, a number of major sporting federations, including Badminton England, British Rowing and Swim England, have barred transgender women from competing. The Labour leader has previously remained coy on the issue, but during a visit to a school in his Holborn and St Pancras constituency on Monday (11 March), he told The Telegraph that he is “supportive” of the bans. “The important thing is that sports governing bodies take a lead on this,” Starmer said. “And they are doing that, and we’re supportive of what they’re doing, particularly in elite sport. “That’s where the decision should be taken, and, in the end, common sense has to prevail in terms of safety and integrity of sport.”

Labour once stood firm on transgender rights but amid the increasing politicisation of trans lives the party has backtracked, U-turned and obfuscated on key issues. Last April, Starmer was accused of “throwing trans people under the bus” following an interview where he controversially said: “For 99.9 per cent of women, it is completely biological … and, of course, they haven’t got a penis”. During the same interview, he appeared to throw his support behind outing trans youth to their parents, saying: “Of course I’d want to know. I say that as a parent. I would want to know and I think the vast majority of parents would want to know.

During the same interview, he appeared to throw his support behind outing trans youth to their parents, saying: “Of course I’d want to know. I say that as a parent. I would want to know and I think the vast majority of parents would want to know. “That’s why we have to have national guidance on it and they should try to make it cross-party, because it’s not helpful to parents or schools to have this as a toxic divide when what’s needed is practical, common-sense advice.” This expanded on previous comments the Labour leader made three months earlier, when he insisted that 16 is too young for anyone to legally change gender, and that spaces must remain single-sex. “Sex-based rights matter and we must preserve all those wins that we’ve had for women over many years, including safe spaces,” he said.

“I’m afraid 16 is too young. People will have different views on this, but I think 16 is too young for that process. I would go for 18, the age of adulthood in most cases. “But I accept – readily accept – that there are a small number of people who do not identify with the gender into which they were born and they are often among the most abused in our society. “They should be respected, and there should be a process – as there is under the law – for them to be recognised in the gender [with which] they identify.” In July, when asked further about his position on the “penis question”, Starmer told Radio 5’s Nicky Campbell that a “woman is an adult female”. Phrases such as “adult female” and “biological women” are seen by many as a transphobic dog whistle and are used by anti-trans campaigners to stoke tension between transgender rights and women’s rights.

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[Celerity]

32. the left to centre left Labour party (not the centrist to centre right Lib Dems) controls the House of Commons

[kelly1mm]

2. Be advised that discussions here on DU concerning transgender issues is subject to the terms

of service that do not allow certain perspectives to be expressed, which is certainly the right of the site owners. Just be careful or you may find your posts removed.

[TommyT139]

6. "certain perspectives"

Feel free to elaborate. It sounds like a poorly-disguised dogwhistle to me, but I'm not a site moderator nor a psychic.

The major medical societies in the US hold that prescribing puberty blockers for trans youth -- after clinically-competant assessment -- is good, solid, evidence-based healthcare.

Many people have their own feelings about other peoples' children and how they're raised. People can examine their own discomfort with how the modern world is making room for individual expressions of gender and it's diversity. (Of course, some processing is best done privately, with a therapist.)

But until meeting some young people whose access to necessary care has been delayed long enough for the rest of their lives to be marked and stigmatized by the irreversible changes of a harmful puberty, one should trust the doctors, families, and individuals whose lives are directly affected.

[kelly1mm]

8. I thought I was pretty clear. The site owner here on DU has decided that discussions on this topic

are not allowed, which is the site owners right. Thus there can be no actual discussion where people have differing thoughts on the topic and attempt to persuade others.

There is nothing wrong with that on a private site at all! Just warning people to look at the terms of service and post accordingly so they don't get a hide. Don't you agree?

[TommyT139]

9. You're not making sense

Sometimes the science, combined with informed experience, settles things. Of course, there can be disinformation, disingenuousness, and so on - but those aren't any bases for real discussions.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

29. They're complaining they can't be transphobic here NT

[TommyT139]

39. Oh yeah...

...but if they're going to try to get around that -- even by implication -- I'm gonna make them work for it.

Speaking generally (not about the DU member, whom I've never met), transphobes are intellectually lazy. Obsessive, but lazy.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

41. Obsessive definitely applies

[LostOne4Ever]

14. Because we SUPPORT HUMAN RIGHTS ON THIS SITE!

Anyone who would thinks basic rights like healthcare should be up for discussion or debate has no place on a site that is opposed to bigotry!!!

[BootOutTheGoons]

17. It's not even debating

"We can't discuss that here" is a code phrase for "I agree with banning trans rights" without saying it in so many words. Because they know if they say it they run the risk of hides or worse

It's the same as Glenn Beck "just asking questions" to push his shit

The transphobia here since the election has done real harm to people I wonder if that has occurred to people or if they even care

I've pleaded several times with the admins to please step in and put a stop to it. Because it's infuriating and heartbreaking and honestly I'm frightened of the harm it could do

[LostOne4Ever]

19. The moment I see something like that

I know I’m dealing with a TERF.

No matter how they package it, what they are offering is bigotry and it has no place on a liberal, progressive, or even left of center message board!

[BootOutTheGoons]

23. That's exactly what it is. Bigotry

There's been way too much of it allowed here over the last 5 weeks and it seems like the trans hostile crowd here feels they are now free to go after trans people and trans rights constantly

I can tell you it's done real harm and caused real pain

[LostOne4Ever]

26. I know

Trans people are hurting now more than ever. We need support more than ever and the TERFs are exploiting the loss to dehumanize us.

These people are the embodiment of evil.

[BootOutTheGoons]

42. All true

And what hurts the worst is they come here and feel targeted here too. As if no one has their backs or care and nowhere is safe

[AZSkiffyGeek]

38. Looking through previous threads I was in

Guess who was mad Dens didn’t support the sports bans?

[BootOutTheGoons]

44. The usual suspects I'm guessing?

And of course some are moving on from sports bans to gender affirming care bans

Then what's next? Name change bans? Dressing the way they identify bans?

This is the same shit the MFGOP has been doing. It all leads to eradication

Why is it allowed here?

[AZSkiffyGeek]

45. At least they can't hide behind comment recs now thanks to the latest update

Nice to be able to see who the transphobes are.

[BootOutTheGoons]

46. Agreed

That change was long overdue. One less way for camouflaging bigotry around here

[Polybius]

20. Sometimes it's just best to move along and not reply n/t

[TommyT139]

40. That wasn't effective during the election, was it.

[sakabatou]

7. How many times do we have to say it?!

Politicians should NOT PLAY DOCTOR!

[Jose Garcia]

21. The study was conducted by doctors, not politicians

Until recently, most evidence pointed to the efficacy of puberty blockers. But this study, plus an American one, has called that into question.

If we want the best care for kids we need to have open minds and follow the science wherever it leads.

[Mosby]

25. The Cass meta-analysis has become political

Because lawyers have insinuated themselves into the fringes of scientific and medical questions and issues which ultimately negatively affect our understanding of causal functions of various human pathologies. Science is supposed to be free from bias. It's fundamental.

[Jack Valentino]

11. "we fought two wars so we wouldn't have to listen to the fucking British!!!"

from ~The Pentagon Wars


Trailer:

Full movie--- hilarious and worth a watch if you've never seen it

[JI7]

15. Many people that learn liberal are opposed to treatments for transgender minors

and transgender women playing in women's sports.

[TommyT139]

16. "Many people that learn liberal..."

Well, clearly they didn't learn enough!

I know, it was probably a typo.

[Oneironaut]

22. See you next Year when it's all adults, and then gay marriage.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

30. Many people that are transphobic are opposed to treatments for transgender minors

Fixed it for you!

[maxsolomon]

24. Interesting.

I'd have thought America would do this before Britain.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

31. Britain is ground zero for anti-trans activity NT

[maxsolomon]

34. Not Russia?

They are stirring the anti-trans shit worldwide.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

35. It's easy to blame the Russian boogeyman

`That lets people like Nancy Mace, JK Rowling and her ilk off the hook. The fact that there are people on this site for decades that feel it necessary to complain they can't be bigots isn't Russia's fault. They're just easier to manipulate.

[maxsolomon]

36. Yeah, I'm not blaming Russia exclusively.

Their aim is always to exacerbate existing divisions within Western Democracies.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

37. Hammer meet nail

They don't create the bigots, but they'll certainly take advantage of them.

[underpants]

27. As my daughter explained to me, these simply block puberty they don't end it

If let’s say you are born as what is considered a male but you have dysphoria, you take these to stop puberty from occurring when it normally does. If later on you determine that you do want to be a male you simply stop taking them and then you go through puberty. BUT if you don’t take them and go through puberty and your decision is not to be a male then the transition is much more difficult.