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BumRushDaShow

(148,134 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:24 PM Dec 12

New Jersey Proposes Banning All Drones to Combat Mystery Sightings

Source: Newsweek

Published Dec 12, 2024 at 12:24 PM EST


Amid growing concern over mysterious drone flights, New Jersey lawmakers are proposing stricter regulations, including a temporary statewide ban on unmanned aerial devices.

Large drones spotted across the state in recent weeks have evaded traditional detection methods, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

Assemblywoman Dawn Fantasia, briefed by officials on Wednesday, described the drones as up to six feet in diameter and often operating with their lights off. The mysterious devices have been seen from the New York City area to Pennsylvania, including Philadelphia.

Initial sightings near the Picatinny Arsenal, a U.S. military research facility, and their reported presence near President-elect Donald Trump's golf course in Bedminster heightened concerns. Fantasia emphasized these drones do not appear to be flown by hobbyists.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/new-jersey-proposes-banning-all-drones-combat-mystery-sightings-1999645



I heard a report today where some people in NE Philly claimed to have had a sighting.
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New Jersey Proposes Banning All Drones to Combat Mystery Sightings (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 12 OP
It's only a short hop from NJ to PA or DE or MD FakeNoose Dec 12 #1
They've been spotted over Staten Island electric_blue68 Dec 13 #19
You know, this ongoing drone story is a welcomed change from Trump news... Dennis Donovan Dec 12 #2
Lots of voyeurs but nobody does anything about them. bucolic_frolic Dec 12 #3
I hope that was a joke. Ferrets are Cool Dec 12 #18
I expect they'll just ban the SIGHTING of drones. usonian Dec 12 #4
I'm sure banning them will help. make the government look like it's doing something. Srkdqltr Dec 12 #5
Even as they are still flying around ? n/t MichMan Dec 12 #12
Was being sarcastic. Take the period out. Srkdqltr Dec 12 #16
Where are they coming from? I'll tell ya. 3Hotdogs Dec 12 #6
But if you put a gun on them... 3825-87867 Dec 12 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 12 #8
They Go Dark!!! reACTIONary Dec 12 #9
All the images I have seen of them have been at night BumRushDaShow Dec 12 #10
The Truth is Out There..... reACTIONary Dec 12 #14
Drone Time Warp!! reACTIONary Dec 12 #11
Maybe if they are a threat from elsewhere Marthe48 Dec 12 #13
Stranger by the day - from White House womanofthehills Dec 12 #15
are there any clear photos? Where are the journalists with the expensive telephotos? Blues Heron Dec 12 #17
AP has an embedded video BumRushDaShow Dec 13 #20
I guarantee if someone shoots one down, we will find out who they belong to. OldBaldy1701E Dec 13 #21
Or send up a better, faster drone to capture one of them FakeNoose Dec 13 #22
I'm surprised that so many people with high powered guns hasn't shot one yet..or if so, we don't know Deuxcents Dec 13 #27
It seems to me it is more important to develop effective anti-drone technology rather than banning all personal drones. Martin68 Dec 13 #23
100% right wing news diversion Nigrum Cattus Dec 13 #24
You are in California (per your Profile) BumRushDaShow Dec 13 #25
Uhhh ReRe Dec 13 #28
I have seen reports of them over Oregon recently BumRushDaShow Dec 14 #29
99.9% chance this is all just mass hysteria with no basis in fact. Oneironaut Dec 13 #26

Dennis Donovan

(29,483 posts)
2. You know, this ongoing drone story is a welcomed change from Trump news...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:32 PM
Dec 12

...thank you, mystery drones!

3Hotdogs

(13,929 posts)
6. Where are they coming from? I'll tell ya.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:07 PM
Dec 12

The Great Swamp is 10,000 acres. You use’ta be able to go in there.

Now, you can only go on one section.

What are they hiding?

3825-87867

(1,283 posts)
7. But if you put a gun on them...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:10 PM
Dec 12

then they're covered by the 2nd! Ain't that right Alito and Thomas?
After all, Palin and MTG can hunt wolves and squirrels and chipmunks and butterflys from helicopters...

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

reACTIONary

(6,317 posts)
9. They Go Dark!!!
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:13 PM
Dec 12
New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy said the recent drones which have been sighted in the state are "very sophisticated," saying, "the minute you get your eyes on them, they go dark."


What an idiot. The drones disappear if you look at them? Maybe they weren't there in the first place.

BumRushDaShow

(148,134 posts)
10. All the images I have seen of them have been at night
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:19 PM
Dec 12

where people have some pics (shot from a distance) of those that have running lights on. Apparently some of them will suddenly shut off their lights (I suppose if someone gets close enough to be nearly underneath them).

(and as a note, I'm not taking his utterance "literally" )

reACTIONary

(6,317 posts)
11. Drone Time Warp!!
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:22 PM
Dec 12
Unusual phenomena have been linked to the sightings, including a family's report of their car clock changing while a drone hovered overhead.


What's next? The old a-probe? The "a" is for "alien", ok?

Marthe48

(20,186 posts)
13. Maybe if they are a threat from elsewhere
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:25 PM
Dec 12

all of us Americans will forget our differences, unite and work to defeat the threat, like in Independence Day.
Yeah, buddy!

BumRushDaShow

(148,134 posts)
20. AP has an embedded video
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 06:45 AM
Dec 13

where at least one shot shows how big one of them might be - https://apnews.com/article/fbi-drones-new-jersey-8bfe84cf2678400181292b75f9193395

(wish it was on youtube although I expect some of the same shots are on news site youtube reports)

When I first heard of this, I assumed it was some outfit testing those "firework alternative" quadcopters used to do "light shows". But apparently these are bigger ones (supposedly 6ft long/wide ones).

OldBaldy1701E

(7,346 posts)
21. I guarantee if someone shoots one down, we will find out who they belong to.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 07:56 AM
Dec 13

Either from examination, or when the knock on the door comes... either way, they will know once and for all.

Yet, no one seems willing to do anything other than point and go, "Huh..."

Now, of course, this is a bad idea because some people just cannot be trusted to have good judgement, so no one is going to do this, and we will probably never know what is going on.

But, hey... the military and the Feds have never lied to us before, right? Right??

FakeNoose

(36,764 posts)
22. Or send up a better, faster drone to capture one of them
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 10:33 AM
Dec 13

But I agree, we need to know the source and purpose of these mysterious things.
It doesn't sound good.

Deuxcents

(21,183 posts)
27. I'm surprised that so many people with high powered guns hasn't shot one yet..or if so, we don't know
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 07:34 PM
Dec 13

Martin68

(25,045 posts)
23. It seems to me it is more important to develop effective anti-drone technology rather than banning all personal drones.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 12:03 PM
Dec 13

Nigrum Cattus

(420 posts)
24. 100% right wing news diversion
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 06:20 PM
Dec 13

This "story" is pure red herring B.S.. They are and will continue to
produce as much "look over there" garbage as they can to get
the corporate media to talk about anything other than the corruption
they are planning and the unqualified appointments they have
put up. Stick to what they are doing, nothing else.

BumRushDaShow

(148,134 posts)
25. You are in California (per your Profile)
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 06:48 PM
Dec 13

and so far there have been no sightings there but here in the PA-NJ-DE tristate area, they have been all around.

When the FAA first authorized the full complement of UASs in 2012 via the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, I was still living in a hi-rise building and the first thing I did was to get some new heavy/blackout drapes for my balcony windows/doors. At the time, it was bad enough to see Google's helicopters hovering over my building getting images and now you have this.

The quadcopters used by EMS personnel have been invaluable for search and rescue as well as getting a birdseye view of disaster areas (including wildfires, etc). But the abuse by some "hobbyists" has been concerning and in this case, with these apparently being bigger than the typical quadcopter, there is a bigger problem of where they are being launched from.

I originally assumed some org was testing those "firework alternative" ones for "light shows" but apparently not. Just saw this local news report with more sightings over Delaware (and the report shows the regular consumer ones used for "shows" ) where one person got a somewhat clear pic of the size of one -

ReRe

(11,281 posts)
28. Uhhh
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:39 PM
Dec 13

There was a large fleet of them that flew over Sacramento, CA and another large fleet of them over San Antonio. There's a compiled video somewhere on YouTube which includes clips from all over the world. UK, Argentina, Brazil, a bunch of places, from the passenger windows of planes, even pilots in cockpit. I hope you can find it. I think it was about 30 mins long.

BumRushDaShow

(148,134 posts)
29. I have seen reports of them over Oregon recently
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 05:47 AM
Dec 14

But the point is, there are many here on DU claiming this whole thing is "fake" and "a distraction" and "mass hysteria" - even when you have a new sitting Senator from NJ - Andy Kim - who went out with LEO for 2 hours and saw what people were talking about himself.

I expect there are probably a bunch of "fake" reports (social media-generated) mixed in with real ones, but dismissing concerns by people in numerous communities is insulting.

I *knew* that when that damn law came out authorizing these damn things a dozen years ago, there would be issues. There are too many loopholes in existing laws/regulations on how to handle situations like this, and notably any of the larger ones.

IMHO, they need to change the definition of these things and stop calling those little quadcopters "drones" and save the term "drone" for the larger "plane-like" versions.

Oneironaut

(5,913 posts)
26. 99.9% chance this is all just mass hysteria with no basis in fact.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 07:27 PM
Dec 13

For example, a lot of these "sightings" seem to be either fake or just landing planes.

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