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Mr. Sparkle

(3,381 posts)
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 04:38 PM Feb 17

Delta Air Lines plane crash: Jet flips upside down while landing at Toronto Pearson airport

Last edited Mon Feb 17, 2025, 09:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Mirror.co.uk

A Delta Air Lines plane has crashed while landing at an airport in Toronto and is pictured upside down on the runway. Shocking images show the plane having apparently flipped with emergency crews at the scene at Toronto Pearson Airport. The plane was arriving at the Canadian city from Minneapolis when the accident happened in wintry conditions with blizzard conditions on the ground.

One of the passengers speaking of the incident on Facebook said: “In Toronto just landed our plane crashed it’s upside down.” He was talking as he appeared to be filming from the runway and looking at the plane as people were being helped to safety in the snow and ice. He added: "It's upside down everybody.... most people appear to be okay believe it or not."

Peel Paramedic Services say at least eight people are injured following an incident with a plane. There were reportedly close to 80 people on board. A local journalist wrote on X: It’s bad at the airport. Fire and police everywhere!"

But it appears that while the footage from the scene has led to fears of a deadly crash, that somehow everyone has been "accounted for", said the airport. "Toronto Pearson is aware of an incident upon landing involving a Delta Airlines plane arriving from Minneapolis. Emergency teams are responding. All passengers and crew are accounted for," stated a spokesperson for the airport.



Read more: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-delta-air-lines-plane-34696616
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Delta Air Lines plane crash: Jet flips upside down while landing at Toronto Pearson airport (Original Post) Mr. Sparkle Feb 17 OP
That image.... irisblue Feb 17 #1
UPDATE: Ground Stop in effect BumRushDaShow Feb 17 #2
Looks like something out of an action movie. John1956PA Feb 17 #3
Another image. John1956PA Feb 17 #4
Trump is such bad luck. James48 Feb 17 #5
It's in Canada Lulu KC Feb 17 #6
Few care about truth anymore. Silent Type Feb 17 #7
The Flight Took Off From The U.S. - Minneapolis.....nt global1 Feb 17 #9
Which has what to do with the landing in Toronto? sarisataka Feb 17 #11
Post Said Tr**p Fired FAA Personnel..... global1 Feb 17 #15
Trump should never be absolved for anything he ever did Lulu KC Feb 17 #16
FAA firings are one issue. The crash in Canada is another issue. sarisataka Feb 17 #20
I know Lulu KC Feb 17 #24
Unsure if luck recognizes national borders or not. Torchlight Feb 17 #12
FAA is involved in all flights taking off or landing in the US IronLionZion Feb 17 #23
We won't know until an investigation but with Real World Duffy AllyCat Feb 17 #25
They can already conclude that DEI did this, not any budget cuts and understaffing. IronLionZion Feb 17 #28
My investigation says hurricane-like wind gusts with blizzard freeze Justice matters. Feb 17 #34
Trump threatened Canada just the other day. Kid Berwyn Feb 17 #31
It was in Canada, not the US. Ocelot II Feb 17 #8
Still doesn't bode well for FAA cuts on our end ALBliberal Feb 18 #52
Another story with live video from WGN, Chicago. boonecreek Feb 17 #10
From your link: sheshe2 Feb 18 #51
I was on a small Delta flight, CRJ-900, last night that landed in -5 degree weather at 11PM. I think there were sinkingfeeling Feb 17 #13
Listening to CTV news Toronto OneBlueDotS-Carolina Feb 17 #14
The nose landing gear is down and locked Deminpenn Feb 17 #33
Update from a passenger, The Guardian OneBlueDotS-Carolina Feb 18 #37
It will be interesting to learn what happened Deminpenn Feb 18 #40
Toronto had 2 back to back major snowstorms... OneBlueDotS-Carolina Feb 18 #42
Video shows right wing was low... OneBlueDotS-Carolina Feb 18 #44
Hard to be sure, but it looks like Deminpenn Feb 18 #47
There should be... OneBlueDotS-Carolina Feb 18 #48
No it's not Deminpenn Feb 18 #50
Ali Veshi is who said that, I believe. AllyCat Feb 17 #35
I believe you're correct, plus OneBlueDotS-Carolina Feb 17 #36
First, it's a miracle that it didn't catch fire. mn9driver Feb 17 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author maxsolomon Feb 17 #18
It's extremely windy around Lake Ontario today. SergeStorms Feb 17 #19
The Mirror? Really? maxsolomon Feb 17 #21
always keep those seatbelts on Skittles Feb 17 #22
Put some bondo on it Henry203 Feb 17 #26
I wonder sabbat hunter Feb 17 #27
Holy fuck is right. Mosby Feb 17 #29
Damn!!! wolfie001 Feb 17 #30
Yes but.... Old Crank Feb 18 #39
In one clip of this wreck (on Reddit), there is a flash of flame engulfing the entire exterior of the fuselage wolfie001 Feb 18 #41
To My Eyes RobinA Feb 18 #45
Yes yes!!! wolfie001 Feb 18 #46
The evac music is BidenRocks Feb 17 #32
Enough of a wind and even a stationary plane will experience lift. Aussie105 Feb 18 #38
Delta, it's not "tails, you lose"!" Wonder Why Feb 18 #43
We used to joke how BidenRocks Feb 18 #49

James48

(4,783 posts)
5. Trump is such bad luck.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 04:49 PM
Feb 17

Yesterday Doge fired 300 more at FAA, and today a Deita Flight crashes.

You tell me- WHY?

sarisataka

(21,633 posts)
11. Which has what to do with the landing in Toronto?
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 05:01 PM
Feb 17

Unless you think they installed the artificial horizon upside down before takeoff?

global1

(26,081 posts)
15. Post Said Tr**p Fired FAA Personnel.....
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 05:20 PM
Feb 17

The next post said this happened in Canada.

Almost like that should absolve Tr**p for the firings.

I simply restated that the flight took off from Minneapolis in the U.S..

Just to point out that the FAA and ultimately the NTSB will have some responsibility in the investigation of this crash.

This is another crash in a short period of time since Tr**p took office.

I Guess he's just lucky that way (sarcasm).


Lulu KC

(7,638 posts)
16. Trump should never be absolved for anything he ever did
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 05:26 PM
Feb 17

I have a lot to get irritated about with him. I'm not going to get irritated about a bad landing in a blizzard in another country and just wasn't sure the poster had noticed it was in Canada. That is why I replied--to them.

sarisataka

(21,633 posts)
20. FAA firings are one issue. The crash in Canada is another issue.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 06:15 PM
Feb 17

Post 5 implied there was a connection however the FAA has nothing to do with the operations of Canadian airports. Stating that fact is in no way of absolving Trump from anything.

Lulu KC

(7,638 posts)
24. I know
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 07:24 PM
Feb 17

Which is why I don't understand post 15 and am spending way too much time trying to figure this out. It's mocktail hour. Make that a double, barkeep!

IronLionZion

(48,260 posts)
23. FAA is involved in all flights taking off or landing in the US
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 07:15 PM
Feb 17

it was a US to Canada flight.

AllyCat

(17,704 posts)
25. We won't know until an investigation but with Real World Duffy
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 07:26 PM
Feb 17

In charge, I wonder what safety inspections and procedures were not followed on our end before that flight left MSP.

Justice matters.

(8,225 posts)
34. My investigation says hurricane-like wind gusts with blizzard freeze
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 11:08 PM
Feb 17

conditions on the ground caused that plane to flip upside down while landing at Toronto's Pearson.

Yes, it is THAT windy 'n cold mid-February there sometimes, and polar-vortex deformations occur due to weakening in the north-pole jet stream high-altitude's winds.

It's been minus 40 degrees Celcius in Regina this morning... wind shield = -1,000...

Kid Berwyn

(19,721 posts)
31. Trump threatened Canada just the other day.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 10:19 PM
Feb 17

"Nice country you got here. Wouldn't want to make me make you into the 51st state would you?"

Not a direct quote, but Semion Mogilevich come on down!

Ocelot II

(123,942 posts)
8. It was in Canada, not the US.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 04:57 PM
Feb 17

Can't put this one on Trump's ATC cuts. It's too soon to assign blame but I have to wonder whether the pilots were given sufficient warnings from Toronto ATC about the winds and the runway condition.

sheshe2

(90,973 posts)
51. From your link:
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 10:30 PM
Feb 18
Among the questions that need to be answered, Cox said, was why plane was missing a right wing.

“If one wing is missing, it’s going to have a tendency to roll over,” he said. “Those are going to be central questions as to what happened to the wing and the flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder. They will be found, if not today, tomorrow, and the Transportation Safety Board of Canada will read them out and they will have a very good understanding of what actually occurred here.”


Yikes.

sinkingfeeling

(54,806 posts)
13. I was on a small Delta flight, CRJ-900, last night that landed in -5 degree weather at 11PM. I think there were
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 05:06 PM
Feb 17

about 80 passengers.

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,447 posts)
14. Listening to CTV news Toronto
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 05:07 PM
Feb 17

Aviation expert said the cross winds were 25knots with gusts to 32 knots, the expert speculated the plane may have had a landing gear failure with a simultaneity receiving a cross gust... if it happened upon landing @ 150 mph, the damage would have been far more severe, again very early speculation with very little information available, just video post crash. Only other thing was the emergency slides don't work when the plane is upside down as the come from the bottom of the doors.

Deminpenn

(16,678 posts)
33. The nose landing gear is down and locked
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 10:58 PM
Feb 17

as the picture shows.

I guess the speculation is that one of the main landing gears failed, the wing on that side tipped down and a very strong wind gust caught under the other wing and flipped the plane.

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,447 posts)
37. Update from a passenger, The Guardian
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 12:00 AM
Feb 18

A Facebook user who said he was a passenger on the flight, John Nelson, posted a video showing the crashed plane and wrote: “Our plane crashed. It’s upside down. Most people appear to be OK. We’re all getting off.”

Nelson later told CNN there was no indication of anything unusual before landing. “We hit the ground, and we were sideways, and then we were upside down.

“I was able to just unbuckle and sort of fall and push myself to the ground. And then some people were kind of hanging and needed some help being helped down, and others were able to get down on their own.”

Todd Aitken, the airport’s fire chief, said: “It’s very early on. It’s really important that we do not speculate. What we can say is the runway was dry and there was no crosswind conditions.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/17/plane-crashes-at-toronto-airport-with-reports-of-people-injured-canada-delta

Deminpenn

(16,678 posts)
40. It will be interesting to learn what happened
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 08:29 AM
Feb 18

Maybe something to do with the main landing gear or a tire, but I think that would just produce a plane landing on its belly and a lot of sparks from one of the engines dragging on the runway.

Losing the hydraulics controlling the one of the speed brake flaps on the wings would probably cause the plane to go sideways upon landing. It's still going pretty fast and now one wing is slowing while the other isn't.

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,447 posts)
42. Toronto had 2 back to back major snowstorms...
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 11:03 AM
Feb 18

I wonder when the plane went sideways if the tail hit a snow bank that hadn't been removed. The city of Toronto said it will takes weeks to clean the accumulated snow from the streets. Malton where the airport is, is miles north of the city. I've flown in & out of that airport many times in the winter & even with my 71 year old memory I've never noticed snow banks in Toronto, Montreal or many other Canadian airports. I've watched them clear the runways, they use huge plows on front end loaders, sweepers, and large snow blowing machines. Just saw video of the plane landing...all the videos I've seen is with the plant stationary, post crash. Hopefully this new video will answer some questions to the why.

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,447 posts)
44. Video shows right wing was low...
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 11:23 AM
Feb 18

& the wing impacted the tarmac on touchdown
https://www.cp24.com/news/2025/02/18/video-appears-to-show-moment-delta-plane-hit-tarmac-in-fiery-crash-at-pearson-airport/



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Deminpenn

(16,678 posts)
47. Hard to be sure, but it looks like
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 03:37 PM
Feb 18

the left main landing gear might not be completely down. Plane was noticably listing to the right. I thought there is a warning in the cockpit when a landing gear does not come down or deploy correctly, though.

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,447 posts)
48. There should be...
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 04:25 PM
Feb 18

3 green lights on the control panel, indicating the front & rear landing gear is down & locked, if one of the wheels was not down & locked, the indicator would show red, under such circumstances the pilot would abort the landing & notify the air traffic controllers of the situation. Then they would retract the landing gear & try to drop the gear to get 3 green lights. If they didn't get the desired result, they would declare an emergency, waiting for the ATC to advise as to the next move. This would include flying by the control tower to see if the landing gear is down, that is in the case of a signal malfunction, then passengers on board & how much fuel is left. they may have to fly south to dump fuel over Lake Ontario, while the airport prepares for an emergency landing. This is a situation all parties practice over & over again, thus it's not an extraordinary situation to pilots & those on the ground.

I know, too much info

Deminpenn

(16,678 posts)
50. No it's not
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 10:19 PM
Feb 18

Spent my federal career in military aviation parts and logistics. Saw my share of engineering investigation reports that I always found interesting and informative.

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,447 posts)
36. I believe you're correct, plus
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 11:30 PM
Feb 17

a Canadian expert who I saw while watching CP/24 news from Toronto.

mn9driver

(4,691 posts)
17. First, it's a miracle that it didn't catch fire.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 05:57 PM
Feb 17

One wing is missing and the other is heavily damaged. The runway condition probably contributed heavily to the mishap and also played a part in avoiding a fire.

It also looks like it happened well below landing speed, which contributed to the fuselage staying in one piece. Prayers for everyone and especially the injured.

This could have been much, much worse.

Response to Mr. Sparkle (Original post)

SergeStorms

(19,538 posts)
19. It's extremely windy around Lake Ontario today.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 06:05 PM
Feb 17

Winds 20-30 mph with gusts over 50 mph. I imagine that had something to do with it.

sabbat hunter

(6,951 posts)
27. I wonder
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 08:18 PM
Feb 17

How much of an effect the very windy conditions in Toronto had to do with the plane flipping on to its back.

wolfie001

(4,372 posts)
30. Damn!!!
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 09:40 PM
Feb 17

"Any landing you walk away from is a good landing," said some pilot way back when.

wolfie001

(4,372 posts)
41. In one clip of this wreck (on Reddit), there is a flash of flame engulfing the entire exterior of the fuselage
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 10:52 AM
Feb 18

This is a miracle topping the Hudson River landing. Not as glamorous but WAY MORE amazing no one lost their life. 🙏 p.s.- I hate flying

Aussie105

(6,924 posts)
38. Enough of a wind and even a stationary plane will experience lift.
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 12:44 AM
Feb 18

Small stationary planes are tied down when the wind gets gusty.

ATC not alert to the dangerous conditions?

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