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BumRushDaShow

(150,466 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 06:47 PM Feb 18

Congress closing in on shutdown deadline with no clear plan

Source: The Hill

by Aris Folley - 02/18/25 6:00 AM ET


Congress is struggling to strike a deal to keep the government funded as a looming deadline to prevent a shutdown next month gets closer. Lawmakers are less than a month away from a mid-March date to pass legislation to prevent a funding lapse — or risk the first shutdown in years. “We can’t have precisely the same kind of deal we had before, and we’re trying to work to find some common ground,” House Appropriations Committee Chair Tom Cole (R-Okla.) said shortly before the House left for a one-week recess this week.

Negotiators on both sides have been working to strike a spending deal for weeks, with hopes of crafting the 12 annual funding bills that could make it out of both chambers with bipartisan support — and across President Trump’s desk for signature. But they also say the task has gotten more difficult as fallout spreads over a sweeping operation undertaken by the Trump administration to reshape the federal government.

“We cannot come to a deal where you hammer out gains, losses, but you come to a conclusion and you come to a meeting of the minds,” Rep. Rosa DeLauro (Conn.), the top Democrat on the House Appropriations Committee, told reporters. “That should not be subject to some third party deciding that that’s not what they want.” “We had a deal last year, all of us and so forth, and then there was an interloper with no authority, no legitimacy, nonelected, who said, ‘Don’t vote for it,’” DeLauro said, as Democrats have continued to zero in on tech billionaire Elon Musk, the head of Trump’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).

DeLauro and Cole have both continued to press for a deal on a top-line agreement on how much to fund the government for fiscal 2025 — a key step to kick off work on hashing out annual funding bills. But there is growing acknowledgement that a stopgap of some kind is necessary as Congress hurtles toward a March 14 deadline to keep the lights on with no clear plan on how to prevent a funding lapse.

Read more: https://thehill.com/business/budget/5149928-congress-struggles-government-funding-shutdown/

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Congress closing in on shutdown deadline with no clear plan (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 18 OP
If Democrats vote for the deal then they better extract massive concessions. OrlandoDem2 Feb 18 #1
"let it burn".... actually, I'm with you. slightlv Feb 18 #8
Yep. Commander in Thief wants no government. forgotmylogin Feb 18 #15
Beware the Ides of March........NC DENVERPOPS Feb 19 #21
im with you. My two reps are Cantwell and Murray.. samnsara Feb 19 #23
"No plan is The Plan. Heh heh. Suckers." - G.O.P. BoRaGard Feb 18 #2
Actually DENVERPOPS Feb 19 #22
The GOP WANTS a shutdown Zorro Feb 19 #27
"First shutdown in years"? - Ah right, the one where there was a Republican trifecta just like last time? ck4829 Feb 18 #3
And that particular one BumRushDaShow Feb 18 #4
This one won't conclude with Fed workers slightlv Feb 18 #9
Congress DID actually pass a law requiring back pay (believe it or not) BumRushDaShow Feb 18 #10
May be... but we're not on a level playing field here... slightlv Feb 18 #12
We will ultimately have to see what the SCOTUS does BumRushDaShow Feb 18 #14
I remember the Israeli example you give... slightlv Feb 18 #19
Well they don't have many paychecks to dish out with all the firing............... Lovie777 Feb 18 #5
Democrats should not cooperate in my opinion. Shut it down, voters need to feel the pain bucolic_frolic Feb 18 #6
It doesn't have to 'hurt a lot'. OldBaldy1701E Feb 19 #24
No, no -- not "Congress." REPUBLICANS have no clear plan. For Democrats its simple . . . Journeyman Feb 18 #7
Except their plan is to always blame it/everything on Democrats and they have had a lot of success with that KPN Feb 19 #26
You can't deal with these lying felons. Don't try. Mawspam2 Feb 18 #11
What the H are they talking about? Trump is firing the federal work force. Irish_Dem Feb 18 #13
Shut it down moonshinegnomie Feb 18 #16
well the House Speaker is a Right Johnson. mwooldri Feb 18 #17
Common ground is bullsh¡t. ... littlemissmartypants Feb 18 #18
Turn the lights off at the White House. bluedigger Feb 18 #20
At this point, default on the US debt is the least of our problems. I say let them default and hang that around Martin68 Feb 19 #25

OrlandoDem2

(2,693 posts)
1. If Democrats vote for the deal then they better extract massive concessions.
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 06:50 PM
Feb 18

If not, then let it burn. Shut it down. The GOP controls everything. Make them do it if they won’t play ball.

slightlv

(5,278 posts)
8. "let it burn".... actually, I'm with you.
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 07:46 PM
Feb 18

Musk and trump are already on the way to doing that, anyway... without even the cover of a government shutdown! Make them own it.

samnsara

(18,465 posts)
23. im with you. My two reps are Cantwell and Murray..
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 08:18 AM
Feb 19

..im contacting both to NOT help out the repugs..that we are OK with it shutting down for awhile.

BoRaGard

(4,877 posts)
2. "No plan is The Plan. Heh heh. Suckers." - G.O.P.
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 06:52 PM
Feb 18

"Chaos is what we want. Then we get our boots on for real, suckers." - G.O.P.

Zorro

(17,163 posts)
27. The GOP WANTS a shutdown
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:48 PM
Feb 19

It gives Trump another opportunity to dismiss more government workers.

ck4829

(36,884 posts)
3. "First shutdown in years"? - Ah right, the one where there was a Republican trifecta just like last time?
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 06:55 PM
Feb 18

slightlv

(5,278 posts)
9. This one won't conclude with Fed workers
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 07:48 PM
Feb 18

being paid back for all the time they lose on the job, either. Completely new mindset in DC now... and it's workers be damned.

BumRushDaShow

(150,466 posts)
10. Congress DID actually pass a law requiring back pay (believe it or not)
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 07:55 PM
Feb 18
S.24 - Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019

Public Law 116-1
116th Congress

An Act



To provide for the compensation of Federal and other government
employees affected by lapses in appropriations.
((NOTE: Jan. 16,
2019 - [S. 24]))

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled, ((NOTE: Government
Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019.))
SECTION 1. ((NOTE: 31 USC 1301 note.)) SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ``Government Employee Fair Treatment
Act of 2019''.
SEC. 2. COMPENSATION FOR FEDERAL AND OTHER GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES
AFFECTED BY A LAPSE IN APPROPRIATIONS.

(snip)


(never thought I'd see the day after all these years)

slightlv

(5,278 posts)
12. May be... but we're not on a level playing field here...
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 08:06 PM
Feb 18

trump and musk will just ignore the law. He's got full "executive office immunity", you see.... I don't trust trump to play by ANY rules, and given his history in SA, I certainly don't trust musk. He's an illegal alien. He came in one type of visa, never showed up for classes, and lived here as though he had a business visa. I say deport musk. But I say the two of them together will ignore any law, any precedent, any ruling they don't agree with. And it seems NO ONE can make them do otherwise.

BumRushDaShow

(150,466 posts)
14. We will ultimately have to see what the SCOTUS does
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 08:27 PM
Feb 18

with the monster that John Roberts has created and unleashed.

I don't think they are ready to lose their jobs just yet.

Am thinking of the lessons learned when the Israeli Executive Branch was attempting to goad the Knesset into usurping and disemboweling their Judiciary - Israel’s Supreme Court overturns a key component of Netanyahu’s polarizing judicial overhaul

Will have to watch for something similar here.

slightlv

(5,278 posts)
19. I remember the Israeli example you give...
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 11:06 PM
Feb 18

I also remembering that it could never happen here. Everyone is too chicken shi* to do anything about it. I hope I'm wrong and just having a demoralizing evening... but someone standing up to trump? I sure don't put it in this SCOTUS' to do list.

Lovie777

(17,842 posts)
5. Well they don't have many paychecks to dish out with all the firing...............
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 07:02 PM
Feb 18

the agencies, departments are barely doing anything useful with all cuts, defunding, and stealing, while fucking up the data.

bucolic_frolic

(49,687 posts)
6. Democrats should not cooperate in my opinion. Shut it down, voters need to feel the pain
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 07:09 PM
Feb 18

of what they did. I know, it hurts all and some heavily, and the most vulnerable a lot, but we are being played with this Musk Audit disguised as an efficiency crusade.

OldBaldy1701E

(7,612 posts)
24. It doesn't have to 'hurt a lot'.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 09:12 AM
Feb 19

We can step up and help each other survive. We can combine our resources to make sure we all get through this. And then, when they see that they cannot stop us from resisting, we might get some respBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

(Knew I could not get through that with a straight face.)

We will never get though this and maintain anything like the promise of our Constitution without dropping this business head mentality we have. The 'I got mine, screw you' crowd, which are on both sides of the aisle, will never allow us to be that community minded ever again. Until we understand that this attitude is never going to allow any meaningful general support, we will just be talking about sticking together, but we don't really mean it.

Two things are going to get us through this. Effort (with no thought of reward) and Sacrifice. Which means, we are in big trouble, as both of those are 'anti-American'!

Journeyman

(15,298 posts)
7. No, no -- not "Congress." REPUBLICANS have no clear plan. For Democrats its simple . . .
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 07:11 PM
Feb 18

sit back and let the Republicans implode.

KPN

(16,542 posts)
26. Except their plan is to always blame it/everything on Democrats and they have had a lot of success with that
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:31 PM
Feb 19

because the media largely is controlled by or favors them. We will get blamed regardless.

Mawspam2

(924 posts)
11. You can't deal with these lying felons. Don't try.
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 08:03 PM
Feb 18

It's all on them. Let them own it. When MAGAts checks don't come, and all federal employees are fired, so they never come again, too bad.

Irish_Dem

(67,715 posts)
13. What the H are they talking about? Trump is firing the federal work force.
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 08:13 PM
Feb 18

A lot less paychecks to fund.

moonshinegnomie

(3,283 posts)
16. Shut it down
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 09:41 PM
Feb 18

Shut it all down. Unless the gop gives massive and I do mean massive concessions. And if they balk then shut it all down

mwooldri

(10,607 posts)
17. well the House Speaker is a Right Johnson.
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 09:43 PM
Feb 18

It's all fine and dandy having some Democrats trying to get something out of this. But one simple fact temains. The MAGA party have the majority. It's their watch, their call.

Any government shutdown is on MAGA. Not Democrats.

littlemissmartypants

(27,138 posts)
18. Common ground is bullsh¡t. ...
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 10:57 PM
Feb 18

The regime cannot be trusted to follow the law.

There is no way to find this so-called "common ground" so why join the masquerade?

Shut it down. Make the regime own the bullsh¡t.

bluedigger

(17,219 posts)
20. Turn the lights off at the White House.
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 11:14 PM
Feb 18

No business concerning the public welfare is being conducted there.

Martin68

(25,372 posts)
25. At this point, default on the US debt is the least of our problems. I say let them default and hang that around
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 01:04 PM
Feb 19

Trump's fat neck.

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