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BumRushDaShow

(150,461 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 12:42 PM Feb 26

Gabbard to fire more than 100 intelligence officers over "explicit" chats

Source: Axios

10 hours ago


Tulsi Gabbard, director of National Intelligence, said Tuesday more than 100 intelligence officers will be fired for taking part in sexually explicit discussions in agency chat rooms.

The big picture: Gabbard said on Fox News she "put out a directive" on Tuesday that those who took part in these chats on the National Security Agency's (NSA) "Intelink" messaging platform will also have their security clearances revoked.

Driving the news: Gabbard earlier Tuesday confirmed a report by conservative activist Christopher Rufo, who writes for City Journal, that the DNI was sending a memo directing all intelligence agencies to identify the employees who participated in the chats that included discussion on transgender identity.

  • DNI spokesperson Alexa Henning said on X Tuesday that the memo was sent to "all intelligence agencies" over the chats that she described as "obscene, pornographic, and sexually explicit."
  • Gabbard said on "Jesse Watters Primetime" there "are over 100 people from across the intelligence community that contributed to and participated in what is really just an egregious violation of trust."
  • She added to Fox News' Jesse Watters: "They were brazen in using an NSA platform intended for professional use to conduct this kind of really, really horrific behavior."


  • What they're saying: The National Security Agency/Central Security Service said in a post to X Tuesday it was aware of posts that "appear to show inappropriate discussions" by intelligence personnel and investigations to "address this misuse of government systems" were ongoing.

    Read more: https://www.axios.com/2025/02/26/tulsi-gabbard-nsa-intelligence-officers-explicit-chat



    I expect many if not most of these people ARE "conservatives" (notably going back to the days of Shrub & Darth, including FISA and whatnot). But again in their drug-addled fictional universe, "government" = "libruls". I sure as hell wouldn't want to mess with those in that community.
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    Gabbard to fire more than 100 intelligence officers over "explicit" chats (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 26 OP
    Well that's really stupid to do underpants Feb 26 #1
    Can't really argue with this one. I have never understood why people think any work based email/chat system kelly1mm Feb 26 #2
    How do you know it's true? Grins Feb 26 #21
    It is part of his hating on DEI. The chatrooms where these (alleged) explicit posts were made were kelly1mm Feb 26 #22
    I am suspicious. I wonder if this is true. yardwork Feb 27 #27
    Makes one wonder if somehow these "obscene" materials were somehow tied to Title IX examples or other DEI topics? SomewhereInTheMiddle Feb 27 #31
    Locker room talk is just fine for the boss though BeyondGeography Feb 26 #3
    She doesn't care about sex chat. Just an excuse to fire intel officers. Irish_Dem Feb 26 #4
    YUP BumRushDaShow Feb 26 #5
    Yep. No evidence provided, no such chat sextexts shown... Justice matters. Feb 26 #10
    Exactly, sex talk gets you fired. Rape gets you promoted and adored. Irish_Dem Feb 26 #11
    If true, STUPID move on their part & I'm fine with it Callie1979 Feb 26 #6
    I read that some employees from other agencies will be let go for watching 2 to 4 hrs a day of porn on their computers womanofthehills Feb 27 #25
    And of course you believe that. yardwork Feb 27 #28
    government communication systems are for government business ONLY lapfog_1 Feb 26 #7
    Yes BumRushDaShow Feb 26 #12
    I knew of a guy at a DOE ( Energy ) site that was fired for downloading porn lapfog_1 Feb 26 #14
    I used to be a federal supervisor BumRushDaShow Feb 26 #16
    It's an easy accusation to make, and zero evidence is given. yardwork Feb 27 #29
    It's unfortunate that for the next 4 years BumRushDaShow Feb 27 #32
    I just sort of assume they're lying unless proven otherwise. yardwork Feb 27 #33
    With Rufo involved, there's probably more to this story! imaginary girl Feb 26 #8
    Okay atreides1 Feb 26 #9
    Hmm...she doesn't seem specific. mwmisses4289 Feb 26 #13
    This message was self-deleted by its author Midnight Writer Feb 26 #15
    I see what you did there! yardwork Feb 27 #30
    This is a cover to get rid of liberals... Mr. Mustard 2023 Feb 26 #17
    Gonna guess this is about coffeenap Feb 26 #18
    Beat me to it. Shipwack Feb 26 #19
    Need more evidence from objective sources. Yavin4 Feb 26 #20
    Putin's hand maiden The Wizard Feb 26 #23
    Is this the kind of thing she is going to be protecting us against? milestogo Feb 26 #24
    I'm so impressed they were fired for cause FullySupportDems Feb 27 #26

    kelly1mm

    (5,675 posts)
    2. Can't really argue with this one. I have never understood why people think any work based email/chat system
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 12:54 PM
    Feb 26

    was 'private'. Even DM's.

    Grins

    (8,200 posts)
    21. How do you know it's true?
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 07:12 PM
    Feb 26

    Flare in the night for me: Christopher Rufo.

    The guy who pulled Critical Race Theory out of his ass, followed by DEI. He’s a real shit! And why is he doing this?

    kelly1mm

    (5,675 posts)
    22. It is part of his hating on DEI. The chatrooms where these (alleged) explicit posts were made were
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 08:18 PM
    Feb 26

    in subgroups of the DEI section of the NSA internal chat system.

    Why do I believe it? Confirmed that there are what the Central Security Service (NSA's career internal 'police') described as 'explicit posts' via X

    31. Makes one wonder if somehow these "obscene" materials were somehow tied to Title IX examples or other DEI topics?
    Thu Feb 27, 2025, 09:37 AM
    Feb 27

    No proof or anything to back it up. Not even a theory.

    Just a thought that someone looking for something bad on a DEI site might decide that any mention or image of gay love, trans anatomy, or negative sexual behaviour examples in a sexual harassment training module were "pornographic".

    Obscenity is, after all, in the eye of the beholder.

    On the other hand, people do sometimes do the dumbest, most inappropriate things and seem to be surprised when they are caught.

    It could be either.

    I am just disinclined to offer the current Regieme the automatic benefit of the doubt.

    Justice matters.

    (8,269 posts)
    10. Yep. No evidence provided, no such chat sextexts shown...
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 01:41 PM
    Feb 26

    At the same time the never punished convicted felon creates hundreds of thousands of new radical terrorists who will put American citizens traveling abroad at risk of getting killed...

    All that to please the war criminal in Moscow, killer of pregnant women, babies, children, civilians and Ukrainian soldiers!

    Callie1979

    (646 posts)
    6. If true, STUPID move on their part & I'm fine with it
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 01:06 PM
    Feb 26

    I worked with a company back when laptops going home was a fairly new thing to employees . We were told "dont use them to watch porn". Pretty plain. A month later we got another notice "We know some you are watching porn.The computers are connected to our systems. Stop it or you'll be fired"
    ANOTHER month later 35 field techs were fired FOR WATCHING PORN
    I mean, come ON

    womanofthehills

    (9,618 posts)
    25. I read that some employees from other agencies will be let go for watching 2 to 4 hrs a day of porn on their computers
    Thu Feb 27, 2025, 12:20 AM
    Feb 27

    Some had thousands of photo downloads of porn on their work computers. If you are that dumb, you deserve to lose your job,

    lapfog_1

    (30,782 posts)
    7. government communication systems are for government business ONLY
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 01:06 PM
    Feb 26

    I carried 2 laptops and 2 cell phones.

    if anyone I knew sent me even an innocent email to my government account, I would forward it to my personal account and reply to them to never send any email to my government account.

    This was SO part of my training that even now, some 20 years after I left the government, I continue this practice. My friends at work laugh at me for doing this. But I assure you that this practice keeps me conflict free at work. Sure it would be easier to only carry 1 laptop and 1 phone...

    BumRushDaShow

    (150,461 posts)
    12. Yes
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 02:21 PM
    Feb 26

    Civil servants are trained very well and read the riot act.

    But "firing" on the spot for what is being described, is NOT one of the typical options for misuse of government property. There is a whole escalation process. The most "extreme" measures like this aren't normally taken unless the employee outright physically assaults (or even kills) someone.

    If these people were contractors, then that is a whole other issue but that is not known from the info given.

    lapfog_1

    (30,782 posts)
    14. I knew of a guy at a DOE ( Energy ) site that was fired for downloading porn
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 02:26 PM
    Feb 26

    but for discussing porn or trading porn websites with someone else, you are right... there is a process, including training, etc.

    BumRushDaShow

    (150,461 posts)
    16. I used to be a federal supervisor
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 03:23 PM
    Feb 26

    and there was an escalation procedure of "verbal warnings", "written warnings", maybe some additional "written warnings with coaching", and then started the administrative leave punishment (longer and longer terms).

    I have seen people summarily dismissed like this and they were back maybe 6 months later because they appealed it (in some cases, signing an agreement to be moved to another supervisor or office or whatever).

    yardwork

    (66,104 posts)
    29. It's an easy accusation to make, and zero evidence is given.
    Thu Feb 27, 2025, 09:30 AM
    Feb 27

    Even in this thread some posters are simply assuming it's true. Even after all the lies told by Trump and his associates, people just accept this as fact.

    BumRushDaShow

    (150,461 posts)
    32. It's unfortunate that for the next 4 years
    Thu Feb 27, 2025, 09:58 AM
    Feb 27

    we will need to utilize a "lie" filter on anything coming from 45's appointees and staff.

    atreides1

    (16,606 posts)
    9. Okay
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 01:14 PM
    Feb 26

    If there is an ongoing investigation there are going to be a lot of lawsuits about lack of due process.

    mwmisses4289

    (856 posts)
    13. Hmm...she doesn't seem specific.
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 02:21 PM
    Feb 26

    Wonder if these conversations were part of ongoing investigations into various trafficking rings?

    Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

    Mr. Mustard 2023

    (312 posts)
    17. This is a cover to get rid of liberals...
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 04:52 PM
    Feb 26

    ...or those who dared criticize Dipshit Donnie.

    Do not believe a word MAGA says. It's a coup attempt. No I'm not being hyperbolic nor am I a reactionary.

    He did it on Jan 06, 2021, he told us he was going to take over our country, and now he's trying to do it. Successfully, I'm afraid to say.

    It does not mean he's won, or it's over - things can change fast with catastrophes, natural disasters, enough people in the streets, but if we don't stop this soon, he'll have lackeys everywhere. Incompetent ones btw.

    Every action taken right now is a coordinated plan taken from Project 2025 to take over the U.S., and turn us into the Russian system, where the Trumps are royalty and voting always favors Dear Leader, or Dipshit Donald.



    coffeenap

    (3,249 posts)
    18. Gonna guess this is about
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 05:38 PM
    Feb 26

    LGBT+ convos or support--just like their stupid book bans calling the subject matter "pornographic."

    Shipwack

    (2,575 posts)
    19. Beat me to it.
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 06:26 PM
    Feb 26

    She will use a very broad and inaccurate definition of “pornographic”. It will be used as a cudgel against people they already wanted to get rid of.

    The Wizard

    (13,121 posts)
    23. Putin's hand maiden
    Wed Feb 26, 2025, 08:44 PM
    Feb 26

    doing Vlad's bidding. Thanks Trump. They warned us about learning to speak Russian in the 1950s.

    FullySupportDems

    (312 posts)
    26. I'm so impressed they were fired for cause
    Thu Feb 27, 2025, 12:30 AM
    Feb 27

    And it might be all bs. But still, actual work related offenses? How about that. It almost sounds quaint, doesn't it? Probably is an excuse to get rid of the disloyal people though. Nice of them to try to make it look halfway reasonable. I almost feel like public opinion matters.

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