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BumRushDaShow

(149,984 posts)
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 02:56 PM Mar 23

GOP Sen. John Curtis says politicians are 'not being honest' when they say they won't touch Social Security

Source: NBC News

March 23, 2025, 10:49 AM EDT / Updated March 23, 2025, 11:19 AM EDT


WASHINGTON — Sen. John Curtis, R-Utah, said on NBC News’ “Meet the Press” Sunday that politicians are “not being honest” when they say they won’t touch Social Security. His comments come as President Donald Trump has said his administration was “not touching” Social Security and town hall attendees have expressed concerns about potential Social Security cuts. Elon Musk, who has spearheaded Department of Government Efficiency efforts to cut spending, has vocally criticized Social Security, prompting concerns from some Trump allies.

“We’re not being honest when we look people in the eye and say we’re not going to touch it. If we don’t touch it, it touches itself,” Curtis told “Meet the Press” moderator Kristen Welker. “You know that, right? That’s not being honest with the American people, and I think that’s one of the things that makes them not trust us, when we say something that they just know is not true.”

Curtis said the government does not “need to impact the people that are in Social Security,” but instead can have a conversation about what Social Security looks like for younger generations that are further away from retirement, like 20- and 30-year-olds.

“We all need to say, those in retirement and those near retirement, we’re not going to touch it, you’re safe. But let’s have that conversation, because my kids don’t think they’re going to get it,” he said. “So why can’t we have a conversation with them about moving some of the variables around, and the sooner we do it, the less dramatic it has to be.”

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-john-curtis-politicians-not-honest-wont-touch-social-security-rcna197659



have a conversation with them about moving some of the variables around


TRANSLATION - moving YOUR money "around" from a system that they did NOT pay their fair share into (since the max income for SS withholdings is capped), in order to put it directly into the billionaires' pockets.

Muskrat is supposedly worth $335 billion this year (per Forbes, although the figure varies). So that means -

$334,000,000,000 / 365 = $915,068,493 per day

/ 24 hours = $38,127,854 per hour

/ 60 minutes = $635,464.23 per minute

/ 60 seconds = $10,591.07 per second

Current SS cap = $176,100 (from SSA)

So in ~17 seconds, he hits the cap and won't pay into it anymore.

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GOP Sen. John Curtis says politicians are 'not being honest' when they say they won't touch Social Security (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 23 OP
The convicted felon lies a lot. republianmushroom Mar 23 #1
Sen Curtis: Tell your kids you will vote to raise the cap delisen Mar 23 #2
Young folks think DownriverDem Mar 23 #3
I have been hearing Rebl2 Mar 23 #12
"...like 20- and 30-year-olds." J_William_Ryan Mar 23 #4
"...I think that's one of the things that makes them not trust us, when we say something that they just know is not true BaronChocula Mar 23 #5
Actually, Musk probably pays nothing into S.S, If his income is from investments and stock options, 3Hotdogs Mar 23 #6
I think he is still an "employee" of his companies and may draw some nominal salary BumRushDaShow Mar 23 #7
Yep InstantGratification Mar 23 #9
Nobody ever said billionaires are the smartest bunch. Buddyzbuddy Mar 23 #8
I have news for you, Sen. Curtis: MLWR Mar 23 #10
They've already 'touched' SS pfitz59 Mar 23 #11
So scam the kids? IbogaProject Mar 23 #13
"they don't think they're going to get it" because of YOU FUCKNG CORRUPT REPUKES Skittles Mar 24 #14

republianmushroom

(19,278 posts)
1. The convicted felon lies a lot.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:04 PM
Mar 23

President Donald Trump has said his administration was “not touching” Social Security...

delisen

(6,872 posts)
2. Sen Curtis: Tell your kids you will vote to raise the cap
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:14 PM
Mar 23

You can add a wealth tax too.

Once the super rich start paying their fair share we will have no problems.

DownriverDem

(6,789 posts)
3. Young folks think
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:15 PM
Mar 23

SS won't be around because they've been told that for the last few decades. If they fight for it, it will be there for them.

Rebl2

(16,009 posts)
12. I have been hearing
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 06:07 PM
Mar 23

this since the early 1980’s. If congress had not stolen from it, there would likely not be a problem. Also if they would simply raise the cap to maybe 700,000 dollars it would help.

J_William_Ryan

(2,588 posts)
4. "...like 20- and 30-year-olds."
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:16 PM
Mar 23

The genius of Social Security – and its creators' honesty to acknowledge some hard facts – is that there will always be a significant portion of the population unwilling or unable to plan and save for retirement; mostly lower to middle income Americans who live from paycheck to paycheck, Americans who have nothing left over to save.

Republicans want to go back to the days when we were stepping over bodies in the streets.

BaronChocula

(2,620 posts)
5. "...I think that's one of the things that makes them not trust us, when we say something that they just know is not true
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:26 PM
Mar 23

In case you're late to the "party" Senator, lying is all your party does.

3Hotdogs

(14,041 posts)
6. Actually, Musk probably pays nothing into S.S, If his income is from investments and stock options,
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:29 PM
Mar 23

he doesn't pay a penny into S.S. Nor do most of the other masters in the oligarchy class.

Us "proles," however, that's a different story.

BumRushDaShow

(149,984 posts)
7. I think he is still an "employee" of his companies and may draw some nominal salary
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:36 PM
Mar 23

Where's he's not necessarily just a hedge fund manager equivalent who doesn't have "a salary" and only pays capital gains taxes for his income.

He HAS been fighting in the courts for a $56 billion "pay package" (obviously mostly stocks/options, etc).

9. Yep
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:49 PM
Mar 23

I was going to post something similar. His money is mostly in stocks. IF he draws a salary from any of his companies, THAT is taxed by FICA. I'm not sure if stock options count as normal income. Usually "stock options" are literally the option to buy into a companies stock at a set price that is typically lower than the market price for that stock. If he is given stock as part of his pay, I believe that is taxable income. If it is just the option to buy stocks, it isn't income until he cashes in some of that stock, even then, it would be taxed under the capital gains tax laws and I don't think FICA applies to that type of income.

Buddyzbuddy

(616 posts)
8. Nobody ever said billionaires are the smartest bunch.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:49 PM
Mar 23

Only the richest. By fighting the majority of Americans because you didn't want to contribute just a percent or two more to help their fellow Americans, they have raised the ire of those same Americans. You now as a group are hated more than ever by a majority of us. You have declared war because you think all of your money will protect you when in fact you have exposed yourself to what will soon become a harsh reality.
You Leon, are losing wealth by the truckload and you know it. Lucky for you, you have lots of them. So, you won't go broke but will your ego be able to handle it. I hope not.
I for one now strongly believe at the very least after your 1st billion and maybe as little as $100,000,000 you should be taxed at 90%. Based on all assets and income. I bet most Americans would favor that idea after you've involved yourself the way you have Leon.
You used to be the guy I most wanted to have dinner with, to pick your brain but now I know your just a greedy, spoiled nepo baby that's an idiot. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Learn that phrase. Billionaires are way overrated.
Do the world a favor, eat sh.t and die or just die, we don't care.

pfitz59

(11,422 posts)
11. They've already 'touched' SS
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 06:05 PM
Mar 23

by closing offices and firing employees. Making life harder for recipients.

IbogaProject

(4,195 posts)
13. So scam the kids?
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:27 PM
Mar 23

You know they will outvote you soon enough? I got very angry when medicare at 55 was proposed instead of single payer. This is another divide and conquer thing.

Skittles

(163,057 posts)
14. "they don't think they're going to get it" because of YOU FUCKNG CORRUPT REPUKES
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 01:52 AM
Mar 24

you're not interesting in IMPROVING SS, you want to PRIVATIZE SS to benefit your RICH-ASS DONORS

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