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Coexist

(26,202 posts)
Sun Aug 11, 2024, 08:27 AM Aug 2024

To Save Conservatism From Itself, I Am Voting for Harris

I disagree with David French's views, but this lays it out pretty clearly


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/11/opinion/harris-trump-conservatives-abortion.html

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Earlier generations of the pro-life movement would not have tolerated such a retreat. They would have made it clear that there were some principles Republicans simply can’t abandon without becoming a fundamentally different party.

It becomes even stranger to claim that Christians can’t vote for Democrats when the prime-time lineup at the Republican convention featured an OnlyFans star, a man who publicly slapped his wife, a man who pleaded no contest to an assault charge, and another man who had sex with his friend’s wife while the friend watched — and that’s not even including any reference to Trump himself.

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But when we’re dealing with a complex social phenomenon, political and legal issues are rarely simple. For the first time in decades, abortion rates and ratios increased under Trump. In addition, the best available evidence indicates that abortion rates are up since the Dobbs decision.

Barack Obama was an unabashedly pro-choice politician, yet there were 338,270 fewer abortions in 2016 than there were in 2008, George W. Bush’s last year in office. Though Trump nominated anti-abortion justices and enacted a number of anti-abortion policies, there were 56,080 more abortions the last year of his term than there were in the last year of Obama’s presidency.

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I’m often asked by Trump voters if I’m “still conservative,” and I respond that I can’t vote for Trump precisely because I am conservative. I loathe sex abuse, pornography and adultery. Trump has brought those vices into the mainstream of the Republican Party.

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To Save Conservatism From Itself, I Am Voting for Harris (Original Post) Coexist Aug 2024 OP
They just can't resist a little "I'm better than you" shot, even when they are trying to agree with us ... marble falls Aug 2024 #1
Yes. Once Trumpism is dead Coexist Aug 2024 #2
David French, for those of yall without NYTimes suscriptions Bucky Aug 2024 #3
Oh sorry! I'll add it to the post Coexist Aug 2024 #4
Weird! I am voting to destroy GOP conservatism. It is antithetical to democracy. GreenWave Aug 2024 #5
FUCK conservatism Skittles Aug 2024 #6

marble falls

(62,441 posts)
1. They just can't resist a little "I'm better than you" shot, even when they are trying to agree with us ...
Sun Aug 11, 2024, 08:34 AM
Aug 2024

... dipshit can't even allow for the large numbers of liberals and progressives who also "loathe sex abuse, pornography and adultery".

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
2. Yes. Once Trumpism is dead
Sun Aug 11, 2024, 08:35 AM
Aug 2024

We will go back to our old arguments. But at least we are all willing to work together to defeat this awful anti-democracy movement

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