Evangelicals are blind to the reality that Trump's agenda is anti-Christian.
https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/09/evangelicals-have-been-beguiled-and.htmlFor those seeking to understand the dynamics within the political Evangelical support for a man whose character is completely antithetical to any Christian belief or doctrine, this article will help with some of the difficult nuances of that relationship.
For those who read this who were not raised in, or have never been a member of an Evangelical church in the United States, some of what you may read here will be difficult to understand. I was raised in an Evangelical church, a small, conservative, Southern Baptist congregation of 50 people, and I received most of my higher education in a university and graduate school affiliated with the same denomination.
I'm going to put this in the kind of terminology, using interpretations of passages of the New Testament, that Evangelicals will understand. Those who are not Evangelical, or who are not Christian, can still figure out the message that is being communicated. In one sentence, it is this: Following the guidance provided in the Bible about what it means to be a Christian, committed to the gospel of Jesus Christ, Trump's worldly character and lifestyle are completely inconsistent with Christian faith and practice and voting to put him in the Presidency of the United States would be antithetical to the kind of commitment and loyalty required to be faithful to the gospel of Jesus Christ.
And on top of all of the tyranny that the 900 some odd pages of Project 2025 would impose on the American people, including the threat of the use of violence and bloodshed against those who resist, someone on one side of the issue or the other is lying through their teeth. It's either the Heritage Foundation, which authored this draconian, heretical, tyrannical political platform with Trump's approval, blessing and input, according to them, promising he would implement every point of it if they helped him back into the White House, or it is Trump lying about not ever having anything to do with it, and trying to distance himself from it because his campaign team told him supporting it would guarantee his defeat in November.
This is yet another dilemma for a narcissistic politician who is playing one side against the other in the hope that neither one will notice while they are voting for him. He's a two faced liar. And I can't be any more clear than that. To conservative Evangelicals, he's pro-life and the killer of the Roe decision. To moderate, pro-choice voters, he's the guy who did what "everyone" wanted, by letting the states vote on abortion, but keeping it legal outside the six week ban now imposed by some conservative states. To conservative Evangelicals, he's the reason Project 2025 exists, and they wrote it for him to implement. To everyone else who is alarmed by its extremism, its pandering to billionaires and stripping the American middle class of the last vestiges of their wealth, and this is something someone else came up with that he's never heard of.
poozwah
(276 posts)just proves that religion is not about god, but is about power, control, and the money derived from having both.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,875 posts)evangelicals as a voting block may be a lost cause, mainstream protestants and even catholics arent - although still more conservative than non christians many mainstreamers are well aware that Frump and Frumpism violates many/most of their values and tenets they believe in and are therefore more reachable than evangelicals can ever be. The Harris campaign is aware of this and their faith outreach person is a mainstreamer, different from previous Dem pres. candidates whose outreach person was evangelical. The author himself is a mainstream protestant and seemed a bit irked that this distinctly different (and frankly minority) branch of christianity has been getting all the attention and is seemingly allowed to speak for all christianity.
lees1975
(5,959 posts)There are even branches of some denominations associated with Evangelicalism that are among the most liberal politically. Here's a publication, https://baptistnews.com/ that demonstrates this.
Politically, I'm pretty far to the left. I no longer consider myself Evangelical in any way, but the church folks I hang around with now are Christians, in every sense of that term in practice, and as a result of that, are even further left politically than I am. We identify as Quaker, so we're not really mainline Protestants, but certainly doctrinal and theological centrists as far as Christianity is concerned.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,875 posts)calculate percentages kinda determines what hte findings are. Dont recall if Quakers were considered "mainstream" or not. Your post does kinda reflect what I was getting at, which was that a) not all Christians are evangelicals, they represent only a portion, and b) a lot of Christians arent conservative and even if they are they may very well decide to vote differently this time.
Irish_Dem
(57,551 posts)Trump hates the same people they hate.
He doesn't have to be a good person.
keithbvadu2
(40,120 posts)Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.
They support Trump who says he is so perfect that he does not need Christ or his forgiveness.
Like today's evangelical/religious right supporters, Trump is a Political Christian, not a Christian of faith.
Evangelicals/religious right are easily able to spin their beliefs for political expediency.
The Donald who does not have to ask Jesus for forgiveness.
The Donald who ridicules Holy Communion.
Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/13/donald-trump-religion-serfaty-dnt-erin.cnn
atreides1
(16,386 posts)The basic definition of a Christian is: A Christian is someone who believes in Jesus Christ and follows his teachings.
Those Evangelicals who continue to support Trump are not Christians, for they fail to follow the teachings of Jesus!
RandySF
(70,636 posts)Stargazer99
(2,937 posts)"I knew ye not" because they were not following the requirements of Christ despite their claims they were Christians. I wonder if the Evangelicals ever read that part.
lees1975
(5,959 posts)The deceived elect
Masquerade as an angel of light
waterless clouds
autumn trees without fruit
Those are biblical descriptions.
young_at_heart
(3,854 posts)They are abnormal humans but pinpointing the exact nature of that abnormality is very difficult!
Skittles
(159,374 posts)um, THEY are "anti-Christian" too - a bunch of FUCKING HYPOCRITES
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)They're just power-hungry.