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Dulcinea

(7,479 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:43 AM Sep 16

Vance defends spreading claims that Haitian migrants are eating pets

(NPR) Sen. JD Vance stood by his false claim that Haitian migrants were eating pets in Springfield, Ohio — an unsupported story that former President Donald Trump has also echoed on the debate stage and on social media.

During a Sunday interview on CNN, the Ohio senator and Republican vice presidential nominee said his evidence for this claim was "the first-hand accounts of my constituents." He then went on to defend the dissemination of this false story.

“The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and I started talking about cat memes," Sen. Vance said. "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do."

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/15/nx-s1-5113140/vance-false-claims-haitian-migrants-pets

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Vance defends spreading claims that Haitian migrants are eating pets (Original Post) Dulcinea Sep 16 OP
The never ending liar's club.................... Lovie777 Sep 16 #1
All of the Magat campaign ads in Pa. gab13by13 Sep 16 #2
Later in the interview he asked emotionally: "If the Former Presidident TFG and I don't lie to the American ... marble falls Sep 16 #3
We should celebrate Haitian food and culture in response bucolic_frolic Sep 16 #4
The good people of Springfield, Ohio, are doing just that. Dulcinea Sep 16 #5
Vance is a new kind of hell.........n/t Hope22 Sep 16 #6
Time for your class action suit, jd ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 16 #7
You know, people are noticing. Kid Berwyn Sep 16 #8
This is their way of making immigration any every state problem, not just the borders PortTack Sep 16 #9
Stalin would have approved Zambero Sep 16 #10
What's important is that it FEELS true. maxsolomon Sep 16 #11
It, at least, saddens me that a good portion of the American populace will STILL vote ... chouchou Sep 16 #12
"which threaten the lives of his own constituents"!!! thenelm1 Sep 16 #13
Riddle me this: Dulcinea Sep 16 #26
These two fucking pendejos are openingly terrorizing an American community and openly admitting to it. Magoo48 Sep 16 #14
Programmed sheep. (you asked.). (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sep 16 #18
"Create Stories" My Ass smb Sep 16 #15
Borowitz has a good satire piece on Vance's efforts LetMyPeopleVote Sep 16 #16
When you dont' have facts, dazzle them with bullshit. Javaman Sep 16 #17
Time to make some new laws. OldBaldy1701E Sep 16 #19
He admits he's a liar Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 16 #20
I can envision Tim Walz now, chuckling to himself, writing notes for his upcoming VP debate, Attilatheblond Sep 16 #21
Dewey classification update Nasruddin Sep 16 #22
Openly admits he's just gonna make shit up... Quanto Magnus Sep 16 #23
So..... The couch story is ok??? Srkdqltr Sep 16 #24
Ohio voters, please RECALL JD Vance - he's unqualified to be a US Senator FakeNoose Sep 16 #25
Well the biggest lunatic in U.S. politics, picked a comparable younger lunatic as his VP. Domestic terrorists both. nt Evolve Dammit Sep 16 #27
Chump and Vance WANT violence sakabatou Sep 16 #28
You can tell they want violence simply because they accuse Democrats of fomenting violence. Beartracks Sep 16 #30
What a circle jerk. Isn't this really how the entire rightwing echo chamber works? Beartracks Sep 16 #29
I think we all know that those are not his constituents quakerboy Sep 16 #31
Yeah, but for the Americans who have lost their children in school shootings, the motherfuckers are mum. nt Trueblue Texan Sep 17 #32

gab13by13

(25,267 posts)
2. All of the Magat campaign ads in Pa.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:55 AM
Sep 16

are about immigration and the border. The dog and cat lies keep the narrative right where Magats want it, on immigrants.

marble falls

(62,079 posts)
3. Later in the interview he asked emotionally: "If the Former Presidident TFG and I don't lie to the American ...
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:12 AM
Sep 16

... public, who will? Kamala Harris and Tim Walz sure won't!"

Dulcinea

(7,479 posts)
5. The good people of Springfield, Ohio, are doing just that.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:38 AM
Sep 16

There were posts yesterday featuring them eating in Haitian restaurants.

Kid Berwyn

(18,014 posts)
8. You know, people are noticing.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:53 AM
Sep 16

John Legend, for one. The vocalist comes from Springfield, Ohio. He says Vance's hateful rhetoric is hurting good people, the Haitian-American community that has breathed new life into what had been a dying town, just another Rust Belt statistic.



'Nobody's eating cats. Nobody's eating dogs.' John Legend says Haitian immigrants deserve grace

'We all just want to live and flourish and raise our families in a healthy and safe environment,' Springfield native John Legend


by John Legend
Statement/Columbus Dispatch, September 12, 2024

My name is John Legend, and I was born as John. R Stevens from a place called Springfield, Ohio. Springfield, Ohio — you may have heard of Springfield, Ohio, this week.

In fact, if you watch the debate, we were discussed by our presidential candidates, including a very special, interesting man named Donald J. Trump.

Now, Springfield has had a large influx of Haitian immigrants who come to our city.

SNIP...

But of late, during the Biden administration, there have been more jobs that opened up. More manufacturing jobs, more plants, factories that needed employees and were ready to hire people.

So, we had a lot of job opportunities, and we didn't have enough people in our town of 60,000 people to fill those jobs.

Continues...

Source: https://www.dispatch.com/story/opinion/2024/09/12/john-legend-haitian-immigrants-in-springfield-ohio-donald-trump-debate-jd-vance/75199348007/



Didn't really know a thing about John Legend until today when my UAW retiree neighbor brought this to my attention over the fence. John Legend is a great guy!

PortTack

(34,654 posts)
9. This is their way of making immigration any every state problem, not just the borders
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:02 AM
Sep 16

The next lie will be even more outrageous in another state, then another and another.

Is that going to be a working solution for them to swing the campaign in their direction? In this now short time period, no, but they will continue on out past their election loss.

We can’t look the other way and laugh!

Zambero

(9,764 posts)
10. Stalin would have approved
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:06 AM
Sep 16

Lie, lie, lie. Whatever it takes to fool the people into believing that the Dear Leader has their best interests in mind, despite evidence to contrary.

chouchou

(1,306 posts)
12. It, at least, saddens me that a good portion of the American populace will STILL vote ...
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:21 AM
Sep 16

...for those sub-humans. (that's what the are to me..) They serve little for the human race and other animals.

thenelm1

(912 posts)
13. "which threaten the lives of his own constituents"!!!
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:25 AM
Sep 16

They only one threatening his constituents is this turd. How frequently was Springfield getting bomb threats prior to this guy peddling in these warped stories?

Dulcinea

(7,479 posts)
26. Riddle me this:
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 04:21 PM
Sep 16

What kind of shitstain spreads bullshite rumors about people in the state he represents? Especially when he KNOWS they aren't true?

Magoo48

(5,361 posts)
14. These two fucking pendejos are openingly terrorizing an American community and openly admitting to it.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 12:00 PM
Sep 16

Yet, there is not one government agency with the courage to police them.

Who the fuck are we?

LetMyPeopleVote

(154,549 posts)
16. Borowitz has a good satire piece on Vance's efforts
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 12:15 PM
Sep 16

It is hard to do satire when idiots like Vance do not realize how stupid their claims are
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219468973

OldBaldy1701E

(6,359 posts)
19. Time to make some new laws.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 01:05 PM
Sep 16

Ones that make it illegal to lie on the campaign trail. Ones, that make it a major felony to create such public danger. If someone gets hurt and there is a clear trail from the perp back to crap like this, there needs to be legislation that covers punishment for it. And, that punishment needs to have teeth, not just some slap in the little finger with a wet noodle.

It will never happen, but it is what should happen...

Attilatheblond

(4,307 posts)
21. I can envision Tim Walz now, chuckling to himself, writing notes for his upcoming VP debate,
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 01:37 PM
Sep 16

Oh, this is gonna be fun.

Evolve Dammit

(18,635 posts)
27. Well the biggest lunatic in U.S. politics, picked a comparable younger lunatic as his VP. Domestic terrorists both. nt
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:17 PM
Sep 16

Beartracks

(13,576 posts)
29. What a circle jerk. Isn't this really how the entire rightwing echo chamber works?
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:07 PM
Sep 16

1) Make up a lie, and spread it around.
2) People hear the lie, and then, fearing it's true, repeat it (e.g. "I heard...&quot
3) Claim you continue to spread the lie because people are (now) talking about it, even while...
4) ... acknowledging that it's a lie!

#4 in the cycle is kind of new for Republicans. They all used to pretend their lies were the truth, sometimes toeing the party line with a nudge and a wink. And make no mistake -- many of them actually do believe their own bullshit. But this whole "Yeah, it's a lie, so what?" is a weird new discourse, even for Republicans.

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quakerboy

(14,137 posts)
31. I think we all know that those are not his constituents
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:19 PM
Sep 16

They are supposed to be. But we all know that the likes of Theil and the project 2025 club are his actual constituents.

Trueblue Texan

(2,926 posts)
32. Yeah, but for the Americans who have lost their children in school shootings, the motherfuckers are mum. nt
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 07:21 AM
Sep 17
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