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Trump's golf outings have long concerned Secret Service
Trumps golf outings have long concerned Secret Service
Sundays episode in West Palm Beach made gravely apparent the security challenges at the former presidents private golf courses.
Former president Donald Trump stands beside a golf cart while speaking to his son Eric Trump and colleagues at the Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Va., in 2022. (Tom Brenner for The Washington Post)
By Carol D. Leonnig, Josh Dawsey and Isaac Stanley-Becker
September 16, 2024 at 4:31 p.m. EDT
Soon after Donald Trump became president, authorities tried to warn him about the risks posed by golfing at his own courses because of their proximity to public roads. Secret Service agents came armed with unusual evidence: not suspect profiles or spent bullet casings, but simple photographs taken by news crews of him golfing at his private club in Sterling, Va.
They reasoned that if photographers with long-range lenses could get the president in their sights while he golfed, so too could potential gunmen, according to former U.S. officials involved in the discussions who, like most others interviewed for this story, spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matters sensitivity.
But Trump insisted that his clubs were safe and that he wanted to keep golfing, the former officials said. These preferences posed problems for his protection that former Trump aides, Secret Service officials and security experts said have only intensified in the years since he left the White House, as his security detail shrank and agents no longer maintained as extensive a perimeter guarding his movements. A Trump spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.
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The incident in West Palm Beach was in many ways a more predictable debacle. Indeed, Trump aides and Secret Service agents have long worried about his possible exposure while golfing. The issue, they say, is twofold. He selects locations to golf his own clubs that are particularly difficult to secure. And then he follows a highly predictable routine on any given weekend. ... People are saying, How did [Routh] know hed be there? said a former senior U.S. official. Well, if you were looking for Trump on a Sunday afternoon, I can tell you where hed be. Whatever golf course of his that was closest to where he was. ... Bill Gage, a former agent, said the gunman probably didnt need to do very sophisticated surveillance. ... He just had to sit and wait for Trump to arrive, he said. You dont have to do a lot of guessing to know where he is going to be and that gives a bad guy time to prepare, he said.
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By Carol D. Leonnig
Carol Leonnig is an investigative reporter, four-time winner of the Pulitzer Prize and author of three best-selling books who has worked at The Washington Post since 2000. follow on X @CarolLeonnig
By Josh Dawsey
Josh Dawsey is a political enterprise and investigations reporter for The Washington Post. He joined the paper in 2017 and previously covered the White House. Before that, he covered the White House for Politico, and New York City Hall and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie for the Wall Street Journal.follow on X @jdawsey1
By Isaac Stanley-Becker
Isaac Stanley-Becker is an investigative reporter on the national staff.follow on X isaacstanbecker
Sundays episode in West Palm Beach made gravely apparent the security challenges at the former presidents private golf courses.
Former president Donald Trump stands beside a golf cart while speaking to his son Eric Trump and colleagues at the Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Va., in 2022. (Tom Brenner for The Washington Post)
By Carol D. Leonnig, Josh Dawsey and Isaac Stanley-Becker
September 16, 2024 at 4:31 p.m. EDT
Soon after Donald Trump became president, authorities tried to warn him about the risks posed by golfing at his own courses because of their proximity to public roads. Secret Service agents came armed with unusual evidence: not suspect profiles or spent bullet casings, but simple photographs taken by news crews of him golfing at his private club in Sterling, Va.
They reasoned that if photographers with long-range lenses could get the president in their sights while he golfed, so too could potential gunmen, according to former U.S. officials involved in the discussions who, like most others interviewed for this story, spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matters sensitivity.
But Trump insisted that his clubs were safe and that he wanted to keep golfing, the former officials said. These preferences posed problems for his protection that former Trump aides, Secret Service officials and security experts said have only intensified in the years since he left the White House, as his security detail shrank and agents no longer maintained as extensive a perimeter guarding his movements. A Trump spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.
{snip}
The incident in West Palm Beach was in many ways a more predictable debacle. Indeed, Trump aides and Secret Service agents have long worried about his possible exposure while golfing. The issue, they say, is twofold. He selects locations to golf his own clubs that are particularly difficult to secure. And then he follows a highly predictable routine on any given weekend. ... People are saying, How did [Routh] know hed be there? said a former senior U.S. official. Well, if you were looking for Trump on a Sunday afternoon, I can tell you where hed be. Whatever golf course of his that was closest to where he was. ... Bill Gage, a former agent, said the gunman probably didnt need to do very sophisticated surveillance. ... He just had to sit and wait for Trump to arrive, he said. You dont have to do a lot of guessing to know where he is going to be and that gives a bad guy time to prepare, he said.
{snip}
By Carol D. Leonnig
Carol Leonnig is an investigative reporter, four-time winner of the Pulitzer Prize and author of three best-selling books who has worked at The Washington Post since 2000. follow on X @CarolLeonnig
By Josh Dawsey
Josh Dawsey is a political enterprise and investigations reporter for The Washington Post. He joined the paper in 2017 and previously covered the White House. Before that, he covered the White House for Politico, and New York City Hall and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie for the Wall Street Journal.follow on X @jdawsey1
By Isaac Stanley-Becker
Isaac Stanley-Becker is an investigative reporter on the national staff.follow on X isaacstanbecker
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Trump's golf outings have long concerned Secret Service (Original Post)
mahatmakanejeeves
Sep 16
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Lovie777
(15,009 posts)1. They do not want SS...........
shithole wants his own without government.
His own security.
Attilatheblond
(4,307 posts)2. Spoiled brat needs to accept reasonable limits on his activities if he wants tax payers to pick up the tab
And the fact that he makes money by having Secret Service agents at his places is extremely annoying.
Since he doesn't even walk his golf courses, there is no reason he can't get a VR golf game and save everyone money and aggravation. But he likes to be a burden and also complain that he isn't being taken care of properly.
Boo hoo, Grow up and take responsibility. Do as asked or do without.
pwb
(12,199 posts)3. This is all because trump enjoys breaking any rule.
If the secret service says it is dangerous to do something and he does it? That is on him.
Klarkashton
(2,092 posts)4. Now there is a demand to increase the LE surrounding that
Piece of shit so that he will be safe while he plays golf. Let him deal with it out of his own goddamn pocket.
tanyev
(44,517 posts)5. Yes, but it's so much easier to cheat at courses he owns.