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Zorro

(16,296 posts)
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:28 AM Sep 17

Vance had better buckle up: His debate might go as badly as Trump's

JD Vance has had the most disastrous vice-presidential run in memory, gaining the distinction of having the worst net approval rating of the four candidates on the two major party tickets. And it could get worse: The Ohio senator’s debate against Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz is set for Oct. 1, with two capable female moderators — Norah O’Donnell and Margaret Brennan of CBS News.

Like his boss, Vance does poorly with strong women interrogators. His recent appearance with CNN’s Dana Bash, which focused on his spreading of false rumors that Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, were eating residents’ pets, was a train wreck:

Losing his cool, Vance went so far as to tell Bash to “shut up.” (“Doesn’t that mean you should shut up about the residents of Springfield?”) When he accused her of showing favoritism toward the Democratic candidates, she replied tersely: “I think that if Kamala Harris and Tim Walz were making unsubstantiated claims that had racist undertones about people eating dogs and cats, I would — and they didn’t answer the questions about that, then I would have similar interactions with them.” His interview triggered another round of rotten headlines for him and the campaign.

Vance’s role in fanning what amounts to a racist blood libel, followed by his confession that he feels compelled to “create stories” to score points with voters, will not be his only vulnerability. Whether backtracking on assurances that former president Donald Trump would refuse to sign an abortion ban, or staking out a position that rape and incest shouldn’t be exceptions to abortion bans, or suggesting that people should stay in “violent marriages” (an interpretation he denies), or insisting that childless people do not have a stake in the future of the United States, or saying he “doesn’t care” what happens in Ukraine, Vance’s record is littered with gaffes, extreme statements and offensive slurs. (Recall his statement about getting grandparents to solve our child-care problem). He certainly will need to explain why he went from calling Trump “America’s Hitler” to praise so obsequious that it would make former vice president Mike Pence blush.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/09/17/jd-vance-debate-walz-trainwreck/

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CrispyQ

(38,269 posts)
1. "Stolen valor, stolen valor, Minneapolis burnt to the ground under his watch, & did I mention stolen valor?"
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:33 AM
Sep 17


That's all he's got. He's such a weirdo loser.

BoRaGard

(2,851 posts)
3. "Speaking as the greatest G.O.P. Draft Dodger of all time.." - The Felon (R)
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:36 AM
Sep 17

"let me just say that i always encourage my underlings to disparage the US Military, the way I do.
My man Pooty Poot loves that shit. Gotta keep him happy." - The Felon (R)

SWBTATTReg

(24,107 posts)
2. His debate 'might' go bad? Ha ha heh...I think Mr. Walz is going to mop up the floor w/ the little creep.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:35 AM
Sep 17

These two idiots (tRUMP and his little creep) have caused an untold amount of grief and suffering in Springfield, OH.

As someone being from Ohio too, vance treated his own residents of Ohio to vulgar and despicable behavior and language, encouraging other creeps to do all kinds of mayhem too.

Ocelot II

(120,883 posts)
4. Vance is not only a terrible human being, he's a terrible politician, and a rookie at that.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:43 AM
Sep 17

He can't handle an interview without getting into a stupid argument or saying something that makes his position sound even worse, so how will he manage a debate against someone who's been in the political world for decades and knows how to focus an argument? And since Vance is also a terrible human being, he can't help saying terrible and indefensible things, which he will nevertheless try to defend, and Walz will beat him like a rented mule.

FakeNoose

(35,695 posts)
6. It sounds like the media are turning against Vance
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 11:32 AM
Sep 17

I'm glad to hear it too.

Of all the unqualified VP candidates we've seen over the years - Dan Quayle, Dick Cheney, and Sarah Palin come to mind - JD Vance is the absolute worst!

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