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onetexan

(13,899 posts)
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 03:29 PM Sep 23

NYT's Ezra Klein: 'Furious' Trump is panicked as MAGA becomes monster he no longer controls: analyst


https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/furious-trump-is-panicked-as-maga-becomes-monster-he-no-longer-controls-analyst/ar-AA1r2HFQ

The MAGA movement has grown to such an extent that it’s now more powerful than Donald Trump is — and it’s become one of the former president's biggest threats, an analyst wrote in the New York Times.
The groundswell coalition that he started has evolved and developed its own issues and policies, wrote Ezra Klein. And they're not fully in line with him.
Now Trump as an individual is losing his grasp on it — and it's becoming aFrankenstein monster its creator has little control over.
“Trumpism is whatever Trump says it is,” Klein wrote. “But MAGA is whatever his movement becomes. This is why J.D. Vance has been a political liability to Trump’s campaign: Vance represents MAGA as it has evolved — esoterically ideological, deeply resentful, terminally online — unleavened by Trump’s instincts for showmanship and the winds of public sentiment.”

Klein wrote that MAGA had led Trump into associations with Project 2025, a policy started as a way to clear out the old school of government and replace it with loyalists. But it morphed into a movement of extreme conservatism which Trump is now trying to disassociate himself from, but which has become emblematic of his movement.
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This was originally an NYT article but it's paywall blocked so i've posted the MSN version.
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NYT's Ezra Klein: 'Furious' Trump is panicked as MAGA becomes monster he no longer controls: analyst (Original Post) onetexan Sep 23 OP
There Couldn't Be a More-deserving Chump The Roux Comes First Sep 23 #1
Well, Klein is not wrong, but... hlthe2b Sep 23 #2
Klein was ok with the way trump was. Looks like Klarkashton Sep 23 #3
Post-Trump, the GOP is going to have a hard time shaking loose ThoughtCriminal Sep 23 #4
Hindsight is 20 20. The current GOP needs to go the way of the Whigs & a new moderate conservative party arise from it. onetexan Sep 23 #5
Kind of like the Roberts court, yeah? Qutzupalotl Sep 23 #6
Roberts IS the one behind the shenanigans onetexan Sep 23 #8
The only movement Trump understands Whyisthisstillclose Sep 23 #7

hlthe2b

(106,365 posts)
2. Well, Klein is not wrong, but...
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 03:41 PM
Sep 23

After nearly two years of writing the most foul and demeaning things about Biden, I have to wonder how hard it was to write something truthful yet harsh against Trump-Vance and their ilk. Poor ole Ezra must be desperate to regain some of his old crowd.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,296 posts)
4. Post-Trump, the GOP is going to have a hard time shaking loose
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 03:45 PM
Sep 23

MAGA is all they have and it will tie them to un-popular policies and rhetoric.

The only way to appease the MAGA is to become more racist, sexist, bigoted, and shrill. The Democrats went with this when it shed the Dixiecrats to the Republicans. It cost them - especially in the 80s.

onetexan

(13,899 posts)
5. Hindsight is 20 20. The current GOP needs to go the way of the Whigs & a new moderate conservative party arise from it.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 03:56 PM
Sep 23
7. The only movement Trump understands
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 04:03 PM
Sep 23

is the one that fills his pants all day. He does not plan beyond the latest individual hate-filled comment he makes. It is the squirrels in his head that will be running the country if he wins.

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