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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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Tue Sep 24, 2024, 12:50 PM Sep 24

Republicans don't trust states' voters on abortion

By Mary Ellen Klas / Bloomberg Opinion

Over a decade ago, when political parties didn’t treat their rivals as mortal enemies, the Republican president of the Florida Senate, Jeff Atwater, would remind his colleagues: “Don’t fear the debate.” I remember them as simple words uttered as tensions mounted during particularly contentious partisan disagreements. But anyone with a reasonable understanding of American history recognized in his message the wisdom of the nation’s founders, who encountered acrimonious differences and frustrating deadlocks and yet hammered out an American Constitution in a sweltering convention hall in Philadelphia 237 years ago by talking it out.

Now would be a good time for Republican officials in states with abortion amendments on the November ballot to follow the founders’ example and trust the debate. Rather than debating the merits of their positions, however, there is an orchestrated effort by these politicians to undermine the will of the people and deny voters the opportunity to decide the issue.

Donald Trump and his supporters have been boasting for two years that it was his Supreme Court appointees who overturned Roe v. Wade and returned the abortion issue to states; where they say it belongs. But when voters in eight states followed the prescribed process for putting abortion-rights amendments on the ballot, Trump and his allies went back on their word.

Instead of letting the debate play out in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada and South Dakota, Republicans employed their same old tricks to try to kick the amendments off the ballot or raise doubts about their legitimacy.

https://www.heraldnet.com/opinion/comment-republicans-dont-trust-states-voters-on-abortion/

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Republicans don't trust states' voters on abortion (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 24 OP
They are running crazy, ridiculous tv ads too ScratchCat Sep 24 #1
it shouldn't even be up for "debate" AT ALL Skittles Sep 24 #2

ScratchCat

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1. They are running crazy, ridiculous tv ads too
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 01:05 PM
Sep 24

You can't escape them. They are nonsense.

One goes like this "Hey, you know all those amendments that have been passed over the years that you didn't like? Yeh, this is one of them too. So trust us and vote against it". I'm not kidding; that's the commercial.

The other shows the text of the amendment and highlights words like "viability", "health care provider" and "prohibit" and opines "These words could mean virtually anything.." and continues with nonsense. The text is not ambiguous or vague:

Amendment to Limit Government Interference with Abortion: No law shall prohibit, penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability or when necessary to protect the patient’s health, as determined by the patient’s healthcare provider. This amendment does not change the Legislature’s constitutional authority to require notification to a parent or guardian before a minor has an abortion.


The commercial even claims it would prevent parental consent laws when it says 100% the opposite right there in the text.

They are so stuck on "getting the Libs" that they can't even understand that abortion isn't a conservative/liberal thing and apparently think that governing from the minority to appease the extreme religious right is the winning ticket.
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