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BWdem4life

(2,497 posts)
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 12:45 AM Oct 12

John Roberts Has Lost the Public. Does He Care?

BY DAHLIA LITHWICK

You would be forgiven were you to find yourself suffering from some version of motion sickness when reading about Chief Justice John Roberts’ worldview at the start of this new Supreme Court term. The chief justice, or so the legend holds, was a moderate conservative until he became a moderate moderate, until he morphed into a MAGA warrior last term. He was a humble minimalist until he turned into a grasping maximalist. He started his reign as chief justice as a coalition forger and then changed into a coalition destroyer. And as we continue to scratch our heads over where he has come from and where he has gone, one final mystery continues to confound: What ever happened to the chief’s legendary capacity to read the room?

Joan Biskupic’s reported piece in CNN this week, about the chief justice’s very extremely bad summer, bears the slightly misleading title “John Roberts Remains Confounded by Donald Trump as Election Approaches.” But as the analysis itself makes clear, it’s not the former president who is confounding the chief. It’s the general public. Roberts, according to observers, “was shaken by the adverse public reaction to his decision affording Trump substantial immunity from criminal prosecution. His protestations that the case concerned the presidency, not Trump, held little currency.” As a consequence, reports Biskupic, “Unlike most of the justices, he made no public speeches over the summer. Colleagues and friends who saw him said he looked especially weary, as if carrying greater weight on his shoulders.”

This echoes precisely the blockbuster New York Times reporting from last month from Jodi Kantor and Adam Liptak, who also pointed out that Roberts had convinced himself last term that he would be able to razzle-dazzle the nation with soaring constitutional rhetoric in his immunity opinion, in ways that would lower the temperature in the public fury at the high court post-Dobbs: “In his writings on the immunity case,” write Kantor and Liptak,

the chief justice seemed confident that his arguments would soar above politics, persuade the public, and stand the test of time. His opinion cited “enduring principles,” quoted Alexander Hamilton’s endorsement of a vigorous presidency, and asserted it would be a mistake to dwell too much on Mr. Trump’s actions. “In a case like this one, focusing on ‘transient results’ may have profound consequences for the separation of powers and for the future of our Republic,” he wrote. “Our perspective must be more farsighted.”


Of course we all know how that worked out. And so, reportedly, does Roberts (or at least he does now). As the Times piece wryly observed, “the public response to the decision, announced in July on the final day of the term, was nothing like what his lofty phrases seemed to anticipate.” Both the CNN and Times accounts would seem to suggest, then, that it is not that Roberts’ politics or ideology shifted last term, when he handed former President Donald Trump three consequential, broad victories, each of which appeared in an opinion that Roberts wrote himself. What seems to have fundamentally changed was Roberts’ capacity to anticipate that there would be a backlash.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/10/supreme-court-analysis-john-roberts-public-confidence-crash.html
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John Roberts Has Lost the Public. Does He Care? (Original Post) BWdem4life Oct 12 OP
No RandySF Oct 12 #1
why should he care, he has a lifetime job nt msongs Oct 12 #2
Nope, we desperately need term limits on the Supreme Court... wcmagumba Oct 12 #3
When you're stupid enough to proclaim racism dead. czarjak Oct 12 #4
His court will live in infamy in the annals of jurisprudence. n/t Mister Ed Oct 12 #5
No. His reputation is toast. He hoped people wouldn't pay close attention, but in any case ... eppur_se_muova Oct 12 #6
The Roberts court will not fare well in history. Lonestarblue Oct 12 #7
None of them care ColoradoHoosier Oct 12 #8

wcmagumba

(3,232 posts)
3. Nope, we desperately need term limits on the Supreme Court...
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 01:01 AM
Oct 12

also get rid of the Electoral College...

czarjak

(12,524 posts)
4. When you're stupid enough to proclaim racism dead.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 01:06 AM
Oct 12

You're a W lackey. He hates Black People too. The Decider?

eppur_se_muova

(37,636 posts)
6. No. His reputation is toast. He hoped people wouldn't pay close attention, but in any case ...
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 01:16 AM
Oct 12

he was bound to do the same thing: push to revive the notion of an imperial Presidency. He hoped to get out of it with reputation intact, but that was always a fool's errand. Now that he has nothing to lose, he is liberated to do whatever he wants. Not something to look forward to.

Lonestarblue

(11,978 posts)
7. The Roberts court will not fare well in history.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 05:15 AM
Oct 12

Unfortunately, we must live with this court unless Harris wins and Democrats have majorities in Congress and have the gumption to add four new justices and replace Roberts as Chief Justice. I would also like to see Thomas impeached for his totally unethical behavior and courting of wealthy Republicans with cases before the court.

Edited to add: The Constitution allows justices to serve with good behavior. It’s time for Democrats to put some definitions of what good behavior means.

ColoradoHoosier

(27 posts)
8. None of them care
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 08:49 AM
Oct 12

That's why they are all now assigned billionaire 'handlers', to make sure they don't fall down the 'care' hole, as some of their picks in the past have done.

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