New York Times Guest Essay: Democrats Ignored Gaza and Brought Down Their Party
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https://vp.nyt.com/video/2024/11/06/129321_1_07Beinart_wg_1080p.mp4Below is a copyrighted work first published in The New York Times by Peter Beinart (@PeterBeinart), a contributing Opinion writer at The Times. Hes also a professor at the Newmark School of Journalism at the City University of New York, an editor at large of Jewish Currents and writes The Beinart Notebook, a weekly newsletter. His book Being Jewish After the Destruction of Gaza is forthcoming.
During the presidential campaign, journalists trying to assess the electoral impact of Israel's war in Gaza often focused on Arab and Muslim voters, particularly in Michigan. Thats understandable. In the heavily Arab American city of Dearborn, Mich., which supported Joe Biden in 2020, results show that Donald Trump beat Kamala Harris by about six percentage points.
But viewing Gazas political repercussions merely through the lens of identity misses something fundamental. Over the past year, Israels slaughter and starvation of Palestinians funded by U.S. taxpayers and live-streamed on social media has triggered one of the greatest surges in progressive activism in a generation. Many Americans roused to action by their governments complicity in Gazas destruction have no personal connection to Palestine or Israel. Like many Americans who protested South African apartheid or the Vietnam War, their motive is not ethnic or religious. It is moral.
The outrage has been particularly intense among Black Americans and the young. This spring, encampments expressing solidarity with the Palestinian people rose on more than 100 college campuses. In February, the Council of Bishops of the African Methodist Episcopal Church, one of the nations most prominent Black congregations, called the war in Gaza a mass genocide and demanded that the Biden-Harris administration stop funding it. In June, the NAACP urged an end to weapons shipments as well. A June CBS News poll found that while most voters over the age of 65 supported arms sales to Israel, voters under the age of 30 opposed them by a ratio of more than three to one. And while only 56 percent of white voters favored cutting off weapons, among Black voters the figure was 75 percent.
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Links:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/07/opinion/democrats-israel-gaza-war.html
https://archive.is/9QlFW
Footnote: A few weeks I wrote about the parallels between the 1968 and 2024 elections.
DU-ers can politely agree or disagree with Mr. Beinart's analysis (or mine, which are similar). The BLUF is helping the American Democratic Party to defeat the GOP in 2028 and all the races in-between and afterwards.
kansasobama
(1,551 posts)Fact remains Hamas attacked Israel. I understand Netanyahu is a war criminal. Hamas are no angels though. But how can I ever sympathize with a group in US that was willing to end democracy here and vote for Trump. That too when Trump is going to treat them like shit.
JohnSJ
(96,812 posts)Oh by the way, f**k The NY Times also.
JustAnotherGen
(33,818 posts)Seriously! WTAF did I just read?
JohnSJ
(96,812 posts)womanofthehills
(9,326 posts)Had a reporter interviewing black women who did not vote for Biden. Most all the women interviewed listed the genocide in Gaza as one of their reasons.
The college kids have been protesting every weeekend for a yr - many said they will not be voting.
Maybe many of you people havent been on Twitter & YouTube seeing the images of lots of dead children every day for a year. Let alone the multi thousands of Gazan kids with no arms and legs. US has to really step it up and provide help for these thousands of limbless kids.
LonePirate
(13,918 posts)This guy has no idea what he is talking about.
womanofthehills
(9,326 posts)You think watching a genocide daily on our phones didnt make lots of Dems stay home. It did - fewer Dems voted in this election than last presidential election.
LonePirate
(13,918 posts)I know people are pissed off by the Gaza mess but Dems in large numbers did not sit home because of it given the looming threat of another Trump admin who would undoubtedly make the situation in Gaza worse. Why would people cut off their nose to spite their face here?
Did some petulant soft Dems not vote or vote for Trump because of Gaza? Sure, but not in any measurable way to cost Harris or any of the losing Senate Dems their races. It is a myth prompted by pride of the single issue Gaza voters who cannot confront their insignificant numbers which is leading people to think the Gaza mess is why Trump won.
blue cat
(2,443 posts)They should be ashamed but too stupid to know better.
atreides1
(16,434 posts)And what will they get for that...more genocide!
Sundance1220
(177 posts)What did their protest vote or not voting get them? Will depraved donnie help the Gazans?
LearnedHand
(4,221 posts)Wrong topic.
Raven123
(6,154 posts)Is living in a fantasy world and probably believed all the other lies he spewed. Some voters may have have rejected Harris over the Gaza issue, but if they think they got a better deal, they may be in for a shock.
Biophilic
(4,986 posts)The fact that idiots think he has a magic wand is beyond stupid. The fact that others keep pushing this story is as close to fake propaganda as it comes. Those that think trump will help the people of Gaza are going to be so confused. They deserve more than confusion. The situation is pretty clear. Unfortunately.
womanofthehills
(9,326 posts)American drs keep returning from Gaza saying how Israel wont stop bombing hospitals - killing drs, patients and newborns. American pediatric surgeon who just returned from Gaza said thru tears -little kids with no shoes have cuts on their feet - walking in sewage water - massive infections - no antibiotic - everyday she had to amputate little kids feet as they had no antibiotics. Many women I know can barely handle this info - Some of you can - I cant.
Avalon Sparks
(2,621 posts)I know I havent been able to handle the info. Watching what Israel has done has changed me forever.
PAMod
(937 posts)That aint see nothing yet.
JustAnotherGen
(33,818 posts)92% of Black Women
78% of Black Men
Voted. For. Harris.
Can the NY Times please do an article about Maggot's obesity, colostomy bag, awful make, comb over, and general poor grooming?
Had Harris shown disgusting hygiene and lack of health they would have harped on it 24/7.
Can they hammer the white and Latina women that voted for that disgusting thing?
The white men teaching their sons "my choice, your body"?
The Muslims who voted for Jill Stein that are now worried?
Can the media please leave us the fuck alone? Seriously - we've given and given to America and another ass swipe journalist picks on black people for not not voting in large enough numbers.
This man needs to go shove this idea of a new Israel/Gaza policy down the throats of Trump voters.
He can visit a few diners to share his concept with those disgusting pieces of shit. Blame it on them!
lapucelle
(19,575 posts)Scrivener7
(53,189 posts)problems are over now? Well, that's great news.
What a crock.
LoisB
(9,023 posts)AloeVera
(2,010 posts)Deaf ears, as we see.
Not much can be done about that. Lord knows I've tried.
Wish you luck. Keep fighting!
I'm outta here.
Martin Eden
(13,562 posts)How would THAT have impacted the election?
Her campaign could have lost support from Jewish voters and donors.
The highly influential RW media landscape would have gone into overdrive with narratives that Harris was abandoning a close American ally, was antisemitic, and supporting terrorists.
The mainstream media would have run with those stories, and she'd be put on the defensive answering those questions.
Democratic strategists who advised the Harris campaign no doubt weighed the consequences on this issue, and determined that breaking with Biden on these arms sales would hurt more than help her chances in the election.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It was a political calculation in what they knew would be a very tight race.
My personal views:
When civilian casualties in Gaza escalated past 100, 200, 300 times the death toll of Oct 7 -- and Netanyahu ignored all pleas from his greatest enabler, the USA -- the correct and moral course of action was to withold the offensive weapons of mass slaughter that were turning Gaza into rubble.
However, Biden's greatest responsibility was to save American democracy. He did that in 2020, but failed in 2024.
We will never know how things might have turned out if Joe had witheld bombs from Israel, or if he had decided not to run for a 2nd term. I think the latter was the bigger factor.
Of one thing I am certain:
Gaza was going to Hurt the Harris campaign either way.
Could it made the crucial difference?
Perhaps, if Gaza was the main reason for the low turnout on Nov 5, but we will never know.
lees1975
(6,101 posts)We're opposed to what Israel is doing in Gaza, so in a vengeful act of political ignorance and stupidity, we are going to deliberately help elect a guy who is going to help make it so much worse than it is, and who will turn on us and deport members of our community too.
Good luck with that. Seriously, it almost seems like American Arabs want Gaza destroyed.
Avalon Sparks
(2,621 posts)That could not in good moral conscience vote for anyone from an administration that continued to approve funds for a genocide.
They told me this themselves.
Wiz Imp
(2,435 posts)They could not in good moral conscience vote for anyone from an administration that continued to approve funds for a genocide. So instead, they vote for the guy who is in favor if totally wiping Gaza off the map. If I had any acquaintances that stupid, they would not be my acquaintance any more.
Avalon Sparks
(2,621 posts)And would never cut anyone off based on their political beliefs. That would be STUPID.
Wiz Imp
(2,435 posts)lack of logic (Not voting for someone because you disagree with a policy and then voting instead for the guy who is in favor of killing ALL of the people in Gaza you claim to care about). It's not A Difference In Political Opinion; it's A Difference In Morality. Feel free to continue to be friends with people who support pure evil. For me, that's a bridge too far. Someone who supports evil is not someone I can support in any way.
Avalon Sparks
(2,621 posts)Avalon Sparks
(2,621 posts)Btw
Uncle Joe
(60,265 posts)One of President Biden greatest perceived strengths, was his empathy tied to his own personal family tragedy but he couldn't seem to find any for the long suffering disenfranchised Palestinian people, and that ultimately undercut his moral foundation as Netanyahu waged a relentless slaughter against over 2 million civilians in an area roughly the size of Philadelphia.
It didn't start out that way because of the terrorist attack on October 7th, the world's sympathy was on the side of Israel, but the callous language and actions from Israeli leadership against the entire civilian Palestinian population in Gaza changed the focus from 1200+ innocent Israelis being massacred by a group of armed terrorists to the mass slaughter and deliberate starvation of 2 million + people with at least a minimum now of 44000 (it's probably in excess of 100,000 counting those buried under the rubble) dead mostly women and children.
It's hard to project empathy if ethnic cleansing, and genocide doesn't stir your passion.
Thanks for the thread C0RI0LANUS
lees1975
(6,101 posts)Biden wasn't running for President, Kamala Harris, who had articulated a much different perspective on Gaza, was the candidate. And no, I won't buy any argument that insists she could have stopped what was happening, because that's just not the case. There's a lot of political naivete and outright ignorance in a statement like that.
The effectiveness of this approach to changing things in Gaza is quite visible. It has had zero effect on American arms policy toward Israel. We've put some pressure on them to open up the humanitarian aid corridors, and are involved in negotiations with a cease fire and release of hostages as the goal. Nothing has changed at all, not one bit, as a result of the pressure applied by pro-Palestinians in the American election. It doesn't appear this protest even made a difference in the election results. It was a wasted effort that has only served to further isolate the Palestinian-American community from the rest of the country.
The position of the United States will change considerably on January 20. The continued existence of Gaza is in doubt. The intention of the attack from Israel was to eliminate all remaining pockets of Hamas and it is obvious that the collateral damage to the civilian infrastructure was not a humanitarian consideration, and that the bombing and destruction will not stop until that goal is achieved. And if you think that the Republicans and the administration the support of Palestinian-Americans helped elect will spend a dime on recovery or rebuilding Gaza, you are sadly mistaken. Netanyahu's intentions are to de-populate Gaza and the West Bank, and the inability of the province to support the population with basic necessities will make most of them refugees headed somewhere else. And that policy will be 100% supported by the political party and President your votes helped put in power.
And I'm one who believes the Palestinian population has been unfairly treated, isolated and dispossessed of land that rightfully belongs to them in the whole reorganization of the territory since the British took over after World War 1. This could have been done so much better.
Uncle Joe
(60,265 posts)It boiled down to a combination run for office and she even stated "nothing different," that may have helped her with Biden loyalists but not the people dissatisfied with his policy in regards to Israel and Gaza. Kamala even ran two different ads one focused on Israel in Pennsylvania and the other more from a Palestinian Gaza point of view in Michigan.
2. Gaza wasn't getting enough food and supplies even before October 7th at about 300 trucks a day. It truly was the world's largest open air prison. Despite pleas or encouragement from President Biden Israel didn't do squat in altering those dynamics, and this only made him look weak, it was no wonder that *rump ran on the "strong man" crap and the corporate media love using that definition for a dictator or a more warm and fuzzy authoritarian. Of course Netanyahu always wanted *rump back in power and anything that he could do to thumb his nose at Biden, he did.
3. Even if the U.S. couldn't stop Israel from committing ethnic cleansing and genocide (the entire world recognized what was happening, and Israeli "leadership" wasn't even coy about it) against the Palestinians, we could've stopped supplying them with the weapons to do so. This not only made President Biden look weak but undercut his moral authority as well and together that was his Achilles heel.
lees1975
(6,101 posts)of the Senate to alter the treaty.
And ultimately, did the voter protest in the election make a real difference in the outcome of the election. Not one bit.
What would have made a difference would have been electing Harris, and keeping a Democratic controlled Senate, which would have given her some ability to alter the treaty and put real pressure on Netanyahu. He knew Biden couldn't do that.
But there's also some hypocrisy here, too. No one else has stopped sending weapons to Israel while they are invading Gaza. They are also being supplied by other nations, including the British. No embargo or alteration of economic ties has occurred. You'd think the fabulously wealthy Arabic gulf states would provide financial assistance and humanitarian aid to Gaza, wouldn't you? But Gaza is a far cry from the glittering cities in Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia.
Uncle Joe
(60,265 posts)There wasn't even an attempt made to stop selling weapons and arms to Israel. except 2000LB bombs because they were being indiscriminately used to bomb entire neighborhoods.
Aside from this we're supposed to be a if not the major world leader.
Since 7 October 2023, several countries such as Italy, Japan, Spain, Canada, the Netherlands and Belgium have ceased the sale of weapons to Israel.[1][2] Key U.S. allies such as Britain and France are debating it.[3] However the United States and Germany as the major suppliers of Israel's arms imports keep supplying lethal weapons in spite of growing criticism of the mounting civilian casualties.[1][2]
Campaign groups and some Western politicians insist that arms sales to Israel must stop because civilian lives have been lost during the IsraelHamas war, due to alleged Israeli atrocities and the humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip.[4]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_embargoes_on_Israel_since_2023#:~:text=Since%207%20October%202023%2C%20several,and%20France%20are%20debating%20it.
MBS overruling his own Saudi trust fund advisors and letting *rump's shadow diplomat/son in law, long time family friend to Netanyahu, and unqualified Jared (Gaza has major good investment potential) Kushner play with well over 2 billion dollars tells me that they're just waiting for the ethnic cleansing/genocide to be over so that Jared can finally start making them a return on their investment.
If people don't vote because they're not inspired or hearing the message, it's the candidate (s) responsibility to answer the voters or peoples call, not the other way around. One thing is for certain, lumping in and condemning the overwhelming number of sincere protesters (many of them Jewish) against ethnic cleansing and genocide as being anti-Semitic doesn't inspire or motivate anyone to vote.
C0RI0LANUS
(1,862 posts)This thread was initiated to politely analyze the 2024 election result without disparaging, insulting, or offending anyone on DU which it did for the most part.
You wonder if 1968 Hubert Humphrey Democrats angrily denounced the anti-war contingent of their party as "VC lovers" and "pinkos" after they lost? Being anti-war doesn't make one a "Commie" or "Hamas lover." I am neither.
BTW: I previously posted the parallels between the 1968 and 2024 elections; don't know if you saw it. That both conventions took place in Chicago with anti-war demonstrations outside added to the analog.
There are 2,097,642 Arab-Americans in the US per Wikipedia. I think the number of anti-war Americans far surpasses that.
Anti-war Democrats, regardless of their ethnicity or faith were sidelined, and thus did not turn out to support Kamala Harris in 2024, just like Hubert Humphrey in 1968.
Links:
https://www.history.com/news/anti-war-movements-throughout-american-history
https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/11/13/michigan-dearborn-trump-harris-arab-gaza-israel-vote/
https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/11/29/how-kamala-harris-thumbed-her-nose-at-arab-american-and-muslim-voters/
Macrophylla
(150 posts)There will be 100 reasons why.
It can't be all of them, it could be none of them.
The last people who know anything about the why will be the media.
It's all just click bait
sop
(11,577 posts)Basso8vb
(458 posts)Utter and complete bullshit.
LetMyPeopleVote
(155,516 posts)With trump back in power, Bibi will be free to do what he wants in Gaza
Link to tweet
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/podcasts/2024-11-06/ty-article-podcast/netanyahu-gambled-on-a-trump-presidency-will-it-pay-off/00000193-01b9-dc77-adb3-9bbbf9ee0000
In conversation with Haaretz Podcast host Allison Kaplan Sommer, Harel said that Netanyahu "kept promising total victory, what he actually had was sort of a Forever War. It was not forever, but he was waiting for November, and for January 20 and for his friend Trump to be back in the White House."
What is the Israeli premier hoping to get out of his bet? Harel believes that in renewing the Bibi-Trump bromance, Netanyahu believes he can win U.S. support for measures that will stop his criminal trial - Trump after all, will certainly sympathize - and move ahead with the judicial coup that will damage Israeli democracy.
In the security and military arena, the Israeli leader aspires to achieve "more aggressive goals in the region, whether it's striking Iran or persuading the Americans to strike Iran, or pushing forward against the Palestinians and against Hezbollah and Lebanon."
MustLoveBeagles
(12,693 posts)Blue_Tires
(56,730 posts)God deliver me from all these shitty brain-dead hot takes...
Midnight Writer
(23,130 posts)In fact, many Republicans, including their messiah, want harsher measures against Gaza. Did that hurt them? Actually, it seems to have benefitted them among Michigan Muslim voters.