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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 11:15 AM Apr 2021

Spooky stuff from George Takei: Parents Divulge The Spookiest 'Past Life' Memories Their Kids Have E


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The (baby) butterfly effect.

https://t.co/uZA97Q1QyJ

Parents Divulge The Spookiest 'Past Life' Memories Their Kids Have Ever Shared
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https://www.georgetakei.com/parents-share-the-spookiest-past-life-memories-their-kids-have-ever-uttered-2651378374.html

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I was driving my family across the state to visit family. Some commercial on the radio about Vegas came on and I started singing "Vivaaaaaa Las Vegas" in my best Elvis impersonation. My son was about 3-4 and he says "I don't like Vegas. I lost my life and a lot of money there." His mom and I glanced at each other like "WTF?" He never said anything else about it....

My son when he was 3 years old started saying some gibberish that sounded very Russian. He told me it was a lullaby from Moskov (he said it like that). I googled a phonetic spelling and found an old Russian lullaby and that gibberish was the name and chorus of the song.

We live in the USA, we are not Russian, I asked his teachers if they were learning about Russia or sang any "world music" lullabies but no one knew anything.


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Spooky stuff from George Takei: Parents Divulge The Spookiest 'Past Life' Memories Their Kids Have E (Original Post) soothsayer Apr 2021 OP
The 3 yr old child of a coworker told her parents... Cracklin Charlie Apr 2021 #1
I love this stuff. Dream Girl Apr 2021 #2
Me, too! There are tons of books out there... have you read the one I mentioned below? It's a good s Karadeniz Apr 2021 #10
When I was five... 2naSalit Apr 2021 #3
Thank you for sharing your remarkable story...out of the mouth of babes! Your story is one of Karadeniz Apr 2021 #8
I had them often, I learned... 2naSalit Apr 2021 #14
Keep writing! It's usually children who express these memories because they do fade or they are Karadeniz Apr 2021 #15
My daughter, between the ages of 2 and 3-ish, MoonchildCA Apr 2021 #4
Spooky! The Midnight Gospel is the show for you! soothsayer Apr 2021 #5
Is that a podcast? Delmette2.0 Apr 2021 #7
It's a cartoon by the Adventure Time guy soothsayer Apr 2021 #11
I have read dozens of accounts, even using the exact phrasing you used!!! Karadeniz Apr 2021 #9
In the Ian Stevenson book, "20 Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation," (and those 20 are a handful of Karadeniz Apr 2021 #6
When a friend's daughter was about three she asked him rsdsharp Apr 2021 #12
Researchers would love to have this case. I'll bet Google would show reputable research orgs. Karadeniz Apr 2021 #16
Kinda late. This happened 30 years ago. rsdsharp Apr 2021 #17
Rats! If the parents were alive, they could verify the umbilical cord and water breaking. That's Karadeniz Apr 2021 #19
They are both alive, but their daughter no longer talks about it. rsdsharp Apr 2021 #26
Well, people are different. I would LOVE to turn over my experience to investigators, but there's no Karadeniz Apr 2021 #28
Well, we keep coming back until we truly get what is actually important. Ka-Dinh Oy Apr 2021 #13
You're right on!!! An excellent example of your point is Many Lives, Many Masters, if you haven't Karadeniz Apr 2021 #18
That sounds like a good read. Ka-Dinh Oy Apr 2021 #24
When my niece was around 3 she would talk about her brother Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #20
I'm reading Life Before Life by Jim B. Tucker, MD The Blue Flower Apr 2021 #21
My Mother And I Deep State Witch Apr 2021 #22
Delphi is so interesting. Julian Jaynes thinks it's the last vestiges of the bicameral mind soothsayer Apr 2021 #23
When I was fifteen-years-old my family was touring Europe by car. Laffy Kat Apr 2021 #25
I'm an open minded skeptic and Elessar Zappa Apr 2021 #27

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
1. The 3 yr old child of a coworker told her parents...
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 11:21 AM
Apr 2021

That Katarina Witt was her skating teacher. They had just seen her on a segment of Sesame Street. Katarina was not skating in the segment.

The child didn’t even take skate lessons, and was far too young to know who the skater was. It freaked her parents right out.

Karadeniz

(23,553 posts)
10. Me, too! There are tons of books out there... have you read the one I mentioned below? It's a good s
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:03 PM
Apr 2021

2naSalit

(93,512 posts)
3. When I was five...
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 11:38 AM
Apr 2021

After meeting with some guy in a Navy uniform at a bar and grille, I asked my mom who he was. She said he was my cousin. I responded immediately that he was there at the hospital with us. She replied that I had never been in a hospital except at my birth. I told her that he was there with my dad and a friend, whom I named, and what they were wearing, who held me, the time of day that all happened as well as whet could be seen from the window, what the interior of the room looked like and what the nurses uniforms looked like.

She was terrified and from that point on, for about forty years, she thought I was some kind of demon child. This went on until she got too old to remember why she was supposed to hate me.

I had prophetic dreams too, like the ones where I was sure she would leave me and my siblings alone with our dad, she actually did when I was nine.

Karadeniz

(23,553 posts)
8. Thank you for sharing your remarkable story...out of the mouth of babes! Your story is one of
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:00 PM
Apr 2021

Thousands... many books out there... but probably such experiences weren't well-known when you were a kid.

2naSalit

(93,512 posts)
14. I had them often, I learned...
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:12 PM
Apr 2021

to not share them because of the way I was treated when I did. I still have them and sometimes write them down even though I still recall most of them in detail no matter how many years have passed. They happen whether I'm awake or sleeping. Babies and very young children often look at me as though I have a small entourage of unseen beings with me. I often feel like I have others nearby that cannot be seen but felt. It's weird.

I'm sure there are many who do this, children are so open and have yet to find that our society frowns on such happenings because they can't be explained away very easily.

Karadeniz

(23,553 posts)
15. Keep writing! It's usually children who express these memories because they do fade or they are
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:31 PM
Apr 2021

Discouraged. The cases which have been investigated I would love to see turned into a children's book!

MoonchildCA

(1,344 posts)
4. My daughter, between the ages of 2 and 3-ish,
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 11:42 AM
Apr 2021

Always used to say to me, “Remember when I was the mommy and you were the baby?”

Also, when her older half-brother was around 4, we were eating dinner and he was telling his dad, “Remember the time we did so and so?”(don’t remember what it was). His dad kept saying, “No. We never did that.” But he was adamant, “Yes, we did! Remember, when I was your grandpa?

Pretty weird stuff.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
11. It's a cartoon by the Adventure Time guy
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:04 PM
Apr 2021

It’s a very heavy philosophical thing made when his mom was dying of cancer. She’s in it, I believe, in the last episode or two (which kind of resemble your story).

It’s pretty cool. Famous thinkers talking meaning of life and death and such.

I’m not doing it justice.

Netflix has it.

Karadeniz

(23,553 posts)
6. In the Ian Stevenson book, "20 Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation," (and those 20 are a handful of
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 11:56 AM
Apr 2021

All he investigated), he explains his methodology. The cases are fascinating! Everyone's favorite has to be the toddler in LA who gave so many clues as to a WWII identity. To dismiss that case is to simply refuse to consider any view other than what one wants to believe. However, my favorite is the kid in OK who remembered another identity and his mother made the effort to prove or disprove. But, I always laugh to myself when I picture that middle class kid in OK one day shouting to his mother that "he just wasn't supposed to live like this!!!" He'd been complaining about the loss of all the things he used to have in Hollywood in the Twenties!

Stevenson was a psychiatrist at U. VA., who was eventually funded his own chair by the CEO of Xerox. So, now all the naysayers here can scream that all Stevenson's research is useless because it was tainted by a donor.

Please be advised that if you are absolutely compelled to insist via a reply here that all survival of memory and a consciousness beyond death is pure fantasy, you are within your rights to do so. It would be nice if you could try to not come off as a stubborn mule, but that might be expecting way too much. For those who have experienced paranormal events, I advise you to totally ignore the rude replies. It's not our job nor is it needed to convince anyone of our opinion, just as it's not their place to invade our minds.

Have a great day!

rsdsharp

(10,290 posts)
12. When a friend's daughter was about three she asked him
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:05 PM
Apr 2021

if they were going to have roast beef for dinner on Sunday like always. Since they never had roast beef on Sunday, he asked what she was talking about. She said she was talking about Sundays in the other house. With the other mommy. Before the fire.

That wouldn’t be remarkable except for something else. One night she went upstairs to the bathroom. Her mother followed, and found her standing in the dark in the hall. She looked at her mother and said it reminded her of how dark it was before she was born. When asked if she remembered anything else, she said she had a rope around her neck, and that she had told her mother not to sit on Daddy’s bed.

Her parents had a waterbed. Her mother found it difficult to get out of it as her pregnancy advanced, and began sleeping on the conventional bed in the guest room. As she neared the end of her pregnancy her parents came to help, and she moved back into the master bedroom. Her water broke when she sat down on the waterbed. Her daughter was born with the umbilical cord around her neck. No one had ever told her these things, and our friends had never told anyone about the circumstances of how her water broke.

Karadeniz

(23,553 posts)
16. Researchers would love to have this case. I'll bet Google would show reputable research orgs.
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:46 PM
Apr 2021

Karadeniz

(23,553 posts)
19. Rats! If the parents were alive, they could verify the umbilical cord and water breaking. That's
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:51 PM
Apr 2021

What they need, substantiation.

rsdsharp

(10,290 posts)
26. They are both alive, but their daughter no longer talks about it.
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 03:50 PM
Apr 2021

She would not want to be involved in a study.

Karadeniz

(23,553 posts)
28. Well, people are different. I would LOVE to turn over my experience to investigators, but there's no
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 05:23 PM
Apr 2021

Point. There aren't enough such cases to warrant research. Oh, well, it opened my eyes to possibilities I wouldn't have otherwise thought of!

Ka-Dinh Oy

(11,686 posts)
13. Well, we keep coming back until we truly get what is actually important.
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:11 PM
Apr 2021

Even those of us who care about others and this earth have some things that we will not let go of and we all need to let go of everything in order to truly move on. You, me, we, they are still learning and for some reason there are those who need to remember their previous life to help them work out what they need to learn in this life.

I have my own memories but do not share with most because people would teas me and think I am nuts.

Karadeniz

(23,553 posts)
18. You're right on!!! An excellent example of your point is Many Lives, Many Masters, if you haven't
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:48 PM
Apr 2021

Read it...you'd love it! Extremely reputable author and in his position, he stood to lose a lot by letting this experience out of the bag!

Phoenix61

(17,725 posts)
20. When my niece was around 3 she would talk about her brother
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:07 PM
Apr 2021

and got very upset when people told her she didn’t have one because she didn’t have a brother. She insisted she did and would talk about things they had done together. I told her “That was before” and she was like “not now?” and I was “nope, not this time.” Seemed to make perfect sense to her.

The Blue Flower

(5,647 posts)
21. I'm reading Life Before Life by Jim B. Tucker, MD
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:27 PM
Apr 2021

It just came out. He took over the Division of Perceptual Studies at the University of Virginia from its founder, Dr. Ian Stevenson. Both are pediatric psychiatrists who became deeply interested in researching seeming past life memories of children due to cases that parents brought to them. Both have researched such stories all over the world. Stevenson began his research in 1960 and in time he received funding to continue the research from one of the inventors of the Xerox process. Stevenson's initial groundbreaking book detailed 20 such cases. Tucker's book expands on the research, which he took over in 1996. While the preponderance of cases in Stevenson's time were in cultures that believe in reincarnation, Tucker has received thousands of stories from American parents, many of whose religious beliefs condemn the idea. The stories are amazing.

You can look up Tucker and the Division of Perceptual Studies online. He believes that consciousness can survive the death of a physical body and that aspects of quantum mechanics regarding consciousness will eventually explain the mechanism.

Deep State Witch

(11,364 posts)
22. My Mother And I
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:31 PM
Apr 2021

Had a difficult relationship. I did a past life regression to find out where it started. We were both servants at this castle. She was the head female servant. She was jealous of me because I was prettier and smarter than she was. Plus, I think I was schtupping either the Lord or some other important man to steal her position. This was sometime in the Middle Ages.

I have also had a lifetime in Ancient Greece, where I was a priestess. My current husband was my brother, but we were very close. One of my current friends was a student of mine, that eventually went on to train at Delphi. She and I were at Delphi together when we had this shared memory.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
23. Delphi is so interesting. Julian Jaynes thinks it's the last vestiges of the bicameral mind
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:48 PM
Apr 2021

His theory is that human conscience emerges between the Iliad and the Odyssey (or that you can see it there).

Before consciousness, humans hear the gods directing what to do. After, there’s “I” thought or decided to do whatever.

He thinks the oracles at Delphi had the vestiges of the old school bicameral brain.

Laffy Kat

(16,531 posts)
25. When I was fifteen-years-old my family was touring Europe by car.
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:59 PM
Apr 2021

We stopped for lunch at an old mansion in the countryside that had been converted into a restaurant and I KNEW I had been in that very house before; I was sure of it. While we were waiting to be seated and my father was talking to the proprietor of the restaurant, I pointed to a closet door under the stairs and told both my father and the owner, "There is a switchboard in that closet." The owner looked very surprised and said that there wasn't a switchboard in the closet now, but there was originally when he bought the property. The house had been used during the war as a headquarters for the military.

I've been through Europe a few times, although not recently, and I got deja vu frequently.

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