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(27,011 posts)Even though I am not, at all, a fan of that particular breed, I have been around some absolutely sweet and lovely pit bulls. However, there are a couple in my neighborhood who occasionally get loose and if I'm outside, I head back in to the house.
WalesOnline has a good article on the UK statistics that undoubtedly lead to the ban:
The American XL bully breed of dog has been responsible for nearly 50% of all attacks on both humans and dogs, and 70% of all deaths to dogs since 2021, a legal academic has said. Speaking to Times Radio after a coalition of animal charities, including the RSPCA and the Kennel Club, said banning American XL bully dogs would not stop attacks, Dr Lawrence Newport said: Well, theres a couple of responses to this. The first is that this dog breed is responsible for over 70% of all deaths to dogs since 2021, its responsible for nearly 50% of all attacks on both humans and other dogs.
In July of this year, in one week, in July this year, one dog a day was killed by an American bully. They are a uniquely dangerous breed of dog. But we actually know that bans work, because weve had one in place on Pit Bulls since 1991. That ban has been very successful. And we know that because for example, in the UK, we have half the per capita deaths to dogs that the US does, and that difference is entirely explained by Pit Bulls.
About 50% of all breeding American bullies in the UK are linked to one dog known as Killer Kimbo, and it and its offspring are linked to multiple deaths, a legal academic has said. Speaking to Times Radio, Dr Lawrence Newport said: The American bully is founded on American pit bull terrier, it was essentially started in the late 80s and early 90s by breeding fighting American pit bull terriers. These are dogs that have one on one fight to the deaths with other dogs and they were then bred together.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/shocking-statistics-explain-exactly-american-27726540
Elessar Zappa
(15,142 posts)theres millions of pitbulls in this country and one when one attacks someone it makes the news. So the vast, vast majority of pitbulls go their life without attacking someone.
flvegan
(64,519 posts)but go ahead. Do tell me about this Dr. Lawrence Newport you seem to be a believer of, please. We can get into Bully Watch next if you like.
Siwsan
(27,011 posts)It was just some statistics I found. Seriously, there's absolutely no need for having such a snarky attitude. Refuting with different statistics would be a better path and lead to a constructive conversation. .
North Shore Chicago
(3,819 posts)Maybe mom can put you in a soft muzzle? That one looks like a Jai alai stick.
Siwsan
(27,011 posts)It is heartbreaking to see those sweet dogs being punished.
It's funny because when I was growing up, German Shepherds were scary. Now I see them as amazing.
duncang
(2,792 posts)But. Ive had another dog that gets a bad rap Dobermans. Not including the pups Ive had two. Both the sweetest dogs you would ever want to meet. Especially Sugar my first Doberman. My kids would play with them, crawl all over them, lay on them, and get all kinds of kisses. Not one bite or scratch.
Im not saying there isnt a problem. But to me its the owners.
Siwsan
(27,011 posts)I never felt an instant of fear around them and I am not a big fan of that breed. If I had a dog it would be a Corgi or a 'Heinz 57' mutt. Something small and manageable.
Maraya1969
(22,914 posts)that I got from animal control and a woman who was going to jail. My husband and I would walk all three, (and the cats would come along with us) without a leash and everyone would stay together.
One day on another block a Pitbull came running at us full speed and was obvious in attack mode. Thankfully he was on a chain that yanked him back before he got to us. I don't remember the whole conversation but the owner blamed us for not having the dogs on a leash. There was 1 Pomeranian, 1 miniature poodle and a chihuahua. His (the human) reaction was to yell at me for not having them on a leash. He literally said my dogs were threatening his dog. All of my dogs put together weighed much less than the big one that was running at us.
That poor dog was abused I am sure of it. I realize I should have kept my dogs on a leash and I started doing that but by myself it is really hard to walk 3 dogs, (husband was not always there) and there was never a problem with them being aggressive to anyone - ever.
I watch videos of dogs a lot and there are so many with pit bulls acting like little babies. They are just adorable.
My point of all this - it is the owner who is responsible for dog attacks save maybe a tiny % who are born aggressive.
Siwsan
(27,011 posts)I honestly don't know about these things so I'm open to learning.
Maraya1969
(22,914 posts)They abuse them and make them mean. It is really sad. But I could be wrong.
Siwsan
(27,011 posts)My grandfather was in to 'Cock Fighting'. Apparently he had a champion Rooster.
One afternoon that Rooster was out in the yard without it's spur sheath. I think that's what it's called. Anyway, my grandmother was out in the yard, bent over to pick something up. That was too good a target for this Rooster and it flew it's spurs right in to her butt.
Suffice it to say, they had poultry for dinner, that night, and my grandfather decided it best to move on from that particular type of contest.
There's more stories like that in my family. For instance, my great grandmother once killed a bear that was after her prize pig. She smashed in in the head with a cast iron frying pan. Repeatedly.
Yea, it's never a good idea to mess with the women in my family.
Maraya1969
(22,914 posts)And spend it at the bars on Friday night. Then one night after getting a snoot full he came into the house and my grandma was waiting for him. She had a gun and shot at him right above the head.
He never drank again. And he left the bullet in the wall so he would never forget about it. My grandma was a bad ass.