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When you were a kid, did you start school before or after Labor Day. I always started the day after Labor Day. When did (Original Post) debm55 Aug 21 OP
Always after Labor Day 49jim Aug 21 #1
I grew up in New York State , too wendyb-NC Aug 21 #9
Me too, Thank you 49jim. debm55 Aug 21 #15
After Labor Day wendyb-NC Aug 21 #2
Yep, when I first started teaching it was after Labor Day, somehow it switched to the week before Labor Day, No one debm55 Aug 21 #18
Monday after Labor Day through Friday Jerry2144 Aug 21 #3
Thank you Jerry2144. Are your schools AC, I imagine they would have to be. debm55 Aug 21 #34
Most of them are Jerry2144 Aug 21 #46
The last week of August. My birthday is the 30th Glorfindel Aug 21 #4
Thank you Glorifindel . That is funny. debm55 Aug 21 #35
Yes, the day after Labor Day back when dinosaurs still roamed the Earth surfered Aug 21 #5
I remember that time.. Permanut Aug 21 #16
HAHAHAHAHAHHA. You are funny. Permanut. debm55 Aug 23 #129
HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHA. Me too. Thank you surfered. debm55 Aug 21 #36
The Monday before Labor Day. Sneederbunk Aug 21 #6
Always after Labor Day. 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 21 #7
Thank you 50 Shades Of Blue. debm55 Aug 21 #37
Went to six different grade schools.. Permanut Aug 21 #8
HAHAHAHAH Thank you Permanut. debm55 Aug 21 #38
Always after Labor Day PikaBlue Aug 21 #10
Thank you PikaBlue. debm55 Aug 23 #128
The school districts in the county where I went to could choose one of two schedules. CrispyQ Aug 21 #11
Oh they were given a choice. I was out of teaching for two years when we adopted our son. I think that is when they debm55 Aug 21 #39
Before. Archae Aug 21 #12
Thank you Archae. I remember having a big party but folks leaving early to get ready for the first day of school the debm55 Aug 21 #41
After Labor Day... anciano Aug 21 #13
Same here, but I have to add my home was the same in grade school Thank you anciano debm55 Aug 21 #42
In Illinois circa 1956 to start CanonRay Aug 21 #14
Thank you Canon Ray. PA some time changed from after to before Labor Day. And 180 days are mandatory, debm55 Aug 21 #43
Day after Labor Day. Gateway School district. livetohike Aug 21 #17
Thank you livetohike. Did you live in the Monroeville area? debm55 Aug 21 #20
Yep. My parents bought their house in Monroeville livetohike Aug 21 #29
I am sorry livetohike. I live out by the old Century III Mall. debm55 Aug 21 #45
Before Labor Day. Different Drummer Aug 21 #19
Thank you Different Drummer. Did the school have AC? It must have been hot without it. debm55 Aug 21 #47
It's been a long time since then but if memory serves, the school did have AC. Different Drummer Aug 21 #50
It was always after Labor Day, until my senior year. We started school in August in 1971. rsdsharp Aug 21 #21
Thank you rsdsharp. And it was HOT! debm55 Aug 22 #81
And no air conditioning. rsdsharp Aug 22 #83
As if I can remember that far back. I want to think it was after Labor Day. LoisB Aug 21 #22
HAHAHHAAH. You are funny. Love ya. debm55 Aug 22 #86
When asked my age, my response is always "four days older than dirt". Love back at you debm55. I hope you LoisB Aug 22 #88
We always started the Wednesday after Labor Day. MiKenMi33 Aug 21 #23
You were lucky , we started the very next day. debm55 Aug 22 #85
Wednesday after Labor Day. FuzzyRabbit Aug 21 #24
Thank you FuzzyRabbit. You were lucky to have that extra day built in. debm55 Aug 22 #87
School started the Tuesday after Labor Day dai13sy Aug 21 #25
Thank you dai13sy. Yes it was hot. but like you say it was comfy in winter. debm55 Aug 22 #93
We started before Labor Day and had no A/C. AllyCat Aug 21 #26
Thank you Ally cat. One of my posts down below describes the last post Labor Day that I remember as a teacher. Two debm55 Aug 22 #89
Before Labor Day. Pisces Aug 21 #27
Thank you Pisces. debm55 Aug 22 #96
After. sinkingfeeling Aug 21 #28
Thank you sinkingfeeling. debm55 Aug 22 #98
As kid ... the Tuesday before Labor day (Ohio as student and teacher) JT45242 Aug 21 #29
Thank you fellow teacher. JT45242. I took 90-91, 91-92 year off for a sabbatical when we adopted our son. I remember debm55 Aug 22 #100
After Labor Day. We had three glorious months of Polly Hennessey Aug 21 #31
Thank you Polly Hennessey. debm55 Aug 22 #101
After Labor Day. HeartsCanHope Aug 21 #32
Thank you, HeartsCanHope. If we were lucky the teacher would bring in a fan. Great blow the warm air all through the debm55 Aug 21 #33
I taught, too. HeartsCanHope Aug 21 #60
Thank you fellow teacher. After teaching for 4o some years, I never had AC. PS do you remember the lesson plan books debm55 Aug 22 #102
Wow, never had air conditioning! You are tough! HeartsCanHope Aug 22 #107
After Labor Day and we got out the first week of June. catbyte Aug 21 #40
Thank you catbyte. Somewhere on here I have the story of the year we had a blizzard one week and an Arctic Freeze the debm55 Aug 22 #103
"Fall means Back-to-School" JoseBalow Aug 21 #44
HAHAHAHAHAHAH, thank you JoseBalow. debm55 Aug 22 #104
Always after Labor Day Jilly_in_VA Aug 21 #48
Thank you Jilly_in_VA, What no snow days??????? Bummer. debm55 Aug 23 #126
This was in the late 1950s-early 60s Jilly_in_VA Aug 23 #141
Wednesday after Labor Day fmdaddio Aug 21 #49
Thank you fmdaddio. debm55 Aug 23 #127
Monday before Labor Day Deep State Witch Aug 21 #51
Thank you Deep State Witch. I bet it was hot. debm55 Aug 23 #130
Not In Pittsburgh Deep State Witch Aug 23 #142
In the 70s and 80s, definitely AFTER Gaytano70 Aug 21 #52
Hello fellow teacher. If you are still teaching, have a wonderful year. debm55 Aug 23 #132
Thank you! Gaytano70 Aug 23 #134
Always after Siwsan Aug 21 #53
Thank you Siwsan. I didn't mind the winters but at times it was unbearable in the heat. fans or no fans. debm55 Aug 21 #58
In New Jersey , Wednesday after Labor Day MacKasey Aug 21 #54
Thank you, MacKasey. You are lucky that you had that extra time to use. debm55 Aug 21 #57
I just checked, now it's the Thursday after Labor day MacKasey Aug 21 #62
Thank you Mackasey. No AC either way it opened and it was hot. debm55 Aug 22 #75
The day after Labor Day, always.. whathehell Aug 21 #55
Thank you whatthehell. In PA it used to be after, now it is before. I don't see the reasoning for it. debm55 Aug 21 #56
You're welcome, and no, I don't get it either! whathehell Aug 21 #59
My first school I taught at was at Rhodes Middle School on 29th and Diamond in NW Phillie.After all these years I still debm55 Aug 21 #66
Okay, I grew up in whathehell Aug 21 #67
Retired, Miss it though debm55 Aug 22 #70
Yes, I can imagine.. whathehell Aug 22 #79
Sometimes I think about it. I was fired from my last teaching job. I tripped over a book bag and fell down to flights of debm55 Aug 22 #108
Deb, the situation you describe whathehell Aug 24 #145
Started school in NM in '89. Elessar Zappa Aug 21 #61
Thank you, Elessar Zappa, That is early. debm55 Aug 21 #65
Before sakabatou Aug 21 #63
Thank you sakabatou. debm55 Aug 21 #64
North after, South before carpetbagger Aug 21 #68
PA has switched. It is now before Labor Day. The only reason I think I can give for PA starting before is that one year. debm55 Aug 22 #74
I always started school after Labor Day. Lot of people took their last hurrah for the "Big fun for the Family" chouchou Aug 22 #69
HAHAHAHAH. chouchou--thank you. debm55 Aug 22 #73
You're too kind! chouchou Aug 22 #94
Always after Labor Day... malthaussen Aug 22 #71
Thank you very much , Mal. debm55 Aug 22 #72
Always wondered what teachers did on "in-service" days... malthaussen Aug 22 #92
Oh no about two weeks before school started we went to inservice and workshops. They were mostly about new teaching debm55 Aug 22 #95
We started the day after Labor Day. I grew up in NJ. Out here in CA, they have already started. beaglelover Aug 22 #76
Thank you beaglelover. Wow that is early. debm55 Aug 22 #97
After Labor Day. We didn't have AC either. OLDMDDEM Aug 22 #77
Thank you OLDMDDEM. And it still was HOT. debm55 Aug 22 #78
Same arkielib Aug 22 #80
Thank you arkielib. That was a bummer. We also started school the day after Jan. I Not break. When we were engaged we debm55 Aug 22 #90
I had forgotten about those early January starts. arkielib Aug 22 #116
Same here. arkielib. Same here. debm55 Aug 23 #125
After and I think it should still be that way. jimfields33 Aug 22 #82
Thank you jimfields33. I think having a day off after Labor Day would have been great. debm55 Aug 22 #91
We always started after jmowreader Aug 22 #84
Thank you jmowreader. That is sort of funny. I can see why they waited until the Paul Bunyan Days were over. debm55 Aug 22 #99
It was always after Labor Day for me Diamond_Dog Aug 22 #105
Thank you Diamond_Dog. And say hello to you hubby teacher for me. debm55 Aug 22 #109
Will do, deb Diamond_Dog Aug 22 #112
After Labor Day. We had a full three months off. Emile Aug 22 #106
Thank you Emile. Yes longer vacations. debm55 Aug 22 #110
glendora unified in los angles county started after my birthday , 8/15.57 AllaN01Bear Aug 22 #111
Thank you AllaN01Bear. debm55 Aug 23 #124
In Grade School... ProfessorGAC Aug 22 #113
Thank you ProfessorGAC. All through grade school Middle and High School it was the day after Labor Day. Even when I debm55 Aug 22 #114
Wednesday after Labor Day Eugene Aug 22 #115
Thank you Eugene. I think in PA it is statewide now. debm55 Aug 23 #123
Day after Labor Day here - but soldierant Aug 22 #117
Thank you soldierant. Very interesting. debm55 Aug 23 #122
NYC - After Labor Day. Was shocked decades later electric_blue68 Aug 23 #118
Thank you electric_blue68. College for me started in mid August.and out the end of May. That was a first. debm55 Aug 23 #121
Wow mid-August! electric_blue68 Aug 24 #143
Yep, Penn State .mid 70's But we got a head start on all the other students looking for jobs. debm55 Aug 24 #144
Definitely a different time. OldBaldy1701E Aug 23 #119
Thank you very much OldBaldy1701E, That was terrible. Especially with the humidity plus the heat. It is hard to get debm55 Aug 23 #120
"The Virginia Beach rule" or in Richmond it was the "Kings Dominion rule" underpants Aug 23 #131
Thank you underpants That is very interesting. debm55 Aug 23 #133
Counties East of 95 are moving back 1 week per school year underpants Aug 23 #135
Thank you underpants. Very interesting. However to follow this schedule , most schools in the west have AC, those in debm55 Aug 23 #136
Ditto. gibraltar72 Aug 23 #137
Thank you gibraltar72. And a friendly ditto back to you. debm55 Aug 23 #138
Always after Labor Day. love_katz Aug 23 #139
Thank you love_katz. No AC is very common in schools not built recently and it was very hot. I went to a Catholic grade debm55 Aug 23 #140

debm55

(35,151 posts)
18. Yep, when I first started teaching it was after Labor Day, somehow it switched to the week before Labor Day, No one
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 01:55 PM
Aug 21

ever stated the reason why,

Jerry2144

(2,612 posts)
3. Monday after Labor Day through Friday
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 01:22 PM
Aug 21

Of the week after Memorial Day. Those 9 school days sucked. Here in Las Vegas it’s two weeks before Labor Day until the Friday before Memorial Day.

Glorfindel

(9,911 posts)
4. The last week of August. My birthday is the 30th
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 01:22 PM
Aug 21

That was also the week that the county fair was held. Naturally, I thought it was all in honor of ME!

Permanut

(6,610 posts)
8. Went to six different grade schools..
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 01:24 PM
Aug 21

Kellogg, Gilbert, Colton, Ardenwald, Oak Grove and Woodstock.

So no clue on the start day of any of them. Also don't know why we moved so often. Maybe Dad was trying to stay one step ahead of the law.

That's probably not it, since he had the same steady job all those years as a city bus driver (think skinny Ralph Kramden).

CrispyQ

(38,141 posts)
11. The school districts in the county where I went to could choose one of two schedules.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 01:26 PM
Aug 21

Start school before Labor Day & let out before Memorial Day or start school after Labor Day & end school after Memorial Day. My district started school before & let out before which for me was the preferred way.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
39. Oh they were given a choice. I was out of teaching for two years when we adopted our son. I think that is when they
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 02:51 PM
Aug 21

changed it --to before Labor Day. Thank you, CrispyQ

Archae

(46,763 posts)
12. Before.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 01:30 PM
Aug 21

Which is why I hated Labor Day, we'd get a day off and have to go straight back to school.

And I hated school.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
41. Thank you Archae. I remember having a big party but folks leaving early to get ready for the first day of school the
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 02:53 PM
Aug 21

next day.

anciano

(1,531 posts)
13. After Labor Day...
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 01:35 PM
Aug 21

No A/C, open windows with no screens, and we had radiators for heat in the winter.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
43. Thank you Canon Ray. PA some time changed from after to before Labor Day. And 180 days are mandatory,
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 02:57 PM
Aug 21

livetohike

(22,893 posts)
29. Yep. My parents bought their house in Monroeville
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 02:28 PM
Aug 21

Last edited Wed Aug 21, 2024, 03:09 PM - Edit history (1)

in 1958. Dad passed in 2004 and Mom lived there until her death in 2018. Sixty years of memories 🙂.

LoisB

(8,534 posts)
88. When asked my age, my response is always "four days older than dirt". Love back at you debm55. I hope you
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 01:28 PM
Aug 22

are having a great day.

dai13sy

(468 posts)
25. School started the Tuesday after Labor Day
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 02:19 PM
Aug 21

Labor Day was always the first Monday of September which still felt like summer here in Oregon. We didn't have air conditioning either. Thank goodness we mostly sat in warm classrooms in the Winter. I loved going to school once I learned you couldn't just leave whenever you wanted to

AllyCat

(17,023 posts)
26. We started before Labor Day and had no A/C.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 02:22 PM
Aug 21

We were done before Memorial Day but usually ended up going until June 1st or so because we had so many snow days and most of the students were rural.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
89. Thank you Ally cat. One of my posts down below describes the last post Labor Day that I remember as a teacher. Two
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 01:31 PM
Aug 22

Blizzards and an Arctic freeze--3 weeks off. We scrambled to make up the days as PA mandate is 180 days or you lost for state funding. It was horrible making up those days and we still went alwost to the end of June with no AC .

JT45242

(2,848 posts)
29. As kid ... the Tuesday before Labor day (Ohio as student and teacher)
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 02:28 PM
Aug 21

That meant the first two weeks were 4 day weeks to ease into school. Also, less problems with older not air conditioned buildings.

When I started teaching in the mid 1990s the start date began creeping forward so that the school had more instructionl days before state testing. The problem was that in the district that I taught in, the buildings were all old (youngest was built in the 1950s) and had no air conditioning. So, those last 15 days of August could be so brutally hot that all the kids could do was sit in their sweat and not learn.

Superintendents liked earlier start dates, because they thought kids would have covered a larger percentage of material before the high stakes testing of NCLB or ESSA. I thought those days before about August 25 were just wasted because the kids were miserable. Maybe different in newer buildings with AC

debm55

(35,151 posts)
100. Thank you fellow teacher. JT45242. I took 90-91, 91-92 year off for a sabbatical when we adopted our son. I remember
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 02:18 PM
Aug 22

when they changed it, the teachers would cart in fans from home and kids had water bottles at their desks. It was brutal. From a retired teacher in SW PA.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
33. Thank you, HeartsCanHope. If we were lucky the teacher would bring in a fan. Great blow the warm air all through the
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 02:40 PM
Aug 21

classroom. PS I did the same when I taught.

HeartsCanHope

(726 posts)
60. I taught, too.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 04:09 PM
Aug 21

Two different times, before my son was born, and then after he was in first grade. Didn't get air conditioning in first teaching stretch, but got it second stretch. Much better after air conditioning, for the kids and teachers!

debm55

(35,151 posts)
102. Thank you fellow teacher. After teaching for 4o some years, I never had AC. PS do you remember the lesson plan books
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 02:25 PM
Aug 22

and student record books that they would pass out during inservice. It is all done on the internet now. I couldn't get used to it.

HeartsCanHope

(726 posts)
107. Wow, never had air conditioning! You are tough!
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 03:17 PM
Aug 22

I was the Elementary Librarian/Computer Teacher. So all I had was a Lesson Plan Book. I also only taught for 6 years total. I was happy at my first school, then stayed home with my son for his first 6 years, but after going back to teaching I was very unhappy at my second school district. I had switched school districts so my son and I were in the same district. My biggest regret was switching--killed any desire to continue to teach. I applaud you for teaching for 40+ years. You rock! It is a difficult profession, but also the most valuable--imho. Children are the future!

catbyte

(35,686 posts)
40. After Labor Day and we got out the first week of June.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 02:51 PM
Aug 21

Except for 1967. There was a blizzard in Michigan that was so bad they had to import equipment from Canada to clear our roads and school was closed for two weeks. We got out mid-June that year and there was still snow on north-facing ditches on my birthday, June 20. We had a snowball fight, lol.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
103. Thank you catbyte. Somewhere on here I have the story of the year we had a blizzard one week and an Arctic Freeze the
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 02:31 PM
Aug 22
next. There went 2 weeks. And then on St Patricks Day another Blizzard. PA requires 180 days to get state founds. We scrambled to find those days. I taught until mid June. Usually around SW PA they wait until the snow melts. They had people skiing in downtown Pittsburgh. I'll never forget the winter.

Jilly_in_VA

(10,838 posts)
48. Always after Labor Day
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 03:09 PM
Aug 21

Usually the second Monday in September. I grew up in Madison, WI, and we were on the same schedule as the University of Wisconsin. The first semester didn't end until after Christmas, either, usually the third week in January. We didn't get out until the second week in June, usually. And we NEVER had snow days, didn't even know what one was until my senior year when we had a humongous blizzard and they closed school at 11:30 am. The city buses stopped running at noon and school was out the rest of the week. I think that was a Thursday. We didn't have school buses at all; kids rode city buses with a bus pass..

Jilly_in_VA

(10,838 posts)
141. This was in the late 1950s-early 60s
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 01:19 PM
Aug 23

We didn't have school buses in our district and all the kids who lived any distance out rode city buses, for which they bought a bus pass every semester (very cheaply, I might add). If the buses didn't run, you just didn't go to school and made up the work later. If they were late, you were excused for that. City life! The first snow day was my senior year, and I've mentioned that. The next time schools were closed was the humongous St. Patrick's Day blizzard of 1964, which hit after midnight that day. Even the university was closed. Times are different now, of course.

Deep State Witch

(11,218 posts)
142. Not In Pittsburgh
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 02:45 PM
Aug 23

My elementary school was pretty old by the time I got there, so we didn't have AC. We had the windows open from what I can remember. But back in the '70's, it was pretty decent in Pittsburgh the last week of August.

Gaytano70

(1,207 posts)
52. In the 70s and 80s, definitely AFTER
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 03:24 PM
Aug 21

Now that I'm a teacher, I don't mind beginning before because we are done earlier in the year 🤓

Siwsan

(27,257 posts)
53. Always after
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 03:24 PM
Aug 21

And the school year ended before my birthday, June 9. We didn't get the long breaks schools have now.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
58. Thank you Siwsan. I didn't mind the winters but at times it was unbearable in the heat. fans or no fans.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 03:53 PM
Aug 21

MacKasey

(1,168 posts)
62. I just checked, now it's the Thursday after Labor day
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 05:06 PM
Aug 21

I graduated back in the 70's so things have changed

But I still think opening school after Labor day is a good

And we did not have AC back then also

whathehell

(29,723 posts)
55. The day after Labor Day, always..
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 03:37 PM
Aug 21

I was surprised when I found out some states started in late August..It seems strange to me.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
56. Thank you whatthehell. In PA it used to be after, now it is before. I don't see the reasoning for it.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 03:47 PM
Aug 21

whathehell

(29,723 posts)
59. You're welcome, and no, I don't get it either!
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 03:59 PM
Aug 21

I know that autumn doesn't officially begin until late September, but August is indisputably summer!
Were I student (or teacher) I'd be righeously pissed!

P.S. Can I ask where you teach?..I went to a school in Philadelphia.



debm55

(35,151 posts)
66. My first school I taught at was at Rhodes Middle School on 29th and Diamond in NW Phillie.After all these years I still
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 08:36 PM
Aug 21

remember the name , and , address. of the school.

whathehell

(29,723 posts)
67. Okay, I grew up in
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 10:11 PM
Aug 21

Northeast Philly and went to school there. Just curious Deb, but are
you still teaching, or are you retired?

whathehell

(29,723 posts)
79. Yes, I can imagine..
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:53 PM
Aug 22

That said, I would think there'd be a lot of volunteer opportunities for retired teachers, if you were interested.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
108. Sometimes I think about it. I was fired from my last teaching job. I tripped over a book bag and fell down to flights of
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 03:56 PM
Aug 22

steps. The office would not call an ambulance or drive me to the hospital. I left and drove 6 miles home with a concussion. My head heart and I took a Advil and went to sleep. Not a good thing. That was in April and I did not go back. When I came back I was given the job as a teacher on a cart. During the summer I had to learn to talk, walk and use my cognitive abilities. again. Teachers complained that I did not show up to the class on time and they missed part of their prep period. I called the PA Workmens Compensation --only students were witness, so the no WC. Unemployment---I was fired =no UC. Non Union school. that tells you everything. I threw everything I saved for 40 some years in the school trash bin. Most, if not all I bought. People say I should have gotten a lawyer. It was a Catholic school, I haven't stepped foot in a church since then(except for my fathers funeral Mass) I received envelopes this morning I put them in the shredder. What really hurt, was that the teachers there==the ones I made christmas sweatshirts for never called, never sent me a card. Neither did the school principal. It left a bad taste in my mouth. Not about teaching, but about the school.

whathehell

(29,723 posts)
145. Deb, the situation you describe
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 11:17 PM
Aug 24

sounds absolutely AWFUL...Hard to believe you'd be treated so badly..That said, your case reminds me of another I know of. A friend of mine, a nurse, injured herself while on duty -- picking up something she was told to pick up. While doing so, she injured her hand permanently and couldn't work as a nurse anymore, after which, as I recall, they tried to fire her. She did go to a lawyer who not only got her a nice monetary settlement, he made the hospital re-hire her for another non- nursing position.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
74. PA has switched. It is now before Labor Day. The only reason I think I can give for PA starting before is that one year.
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:43 PM
Aug 22

after Christmas break. We had a blizzard ==Missed five days of school . The following week an Arctic Freeze- missed 5 days.of
school. There was no 5 day weeks of school during Jan, Feb and March(when we had another blizzard) In PA you most go to school for 180 days to get state funding. No days off the rest of the year And we went to the end of June. Schools around here now have at least 5 snow days built into the schedule. If none are used you get out 5 days early. Oh that was the last time we started after Labor Day.

chouchou

(1,265 posts)
69. I always started school after Labor Day. Lot of people took their last hurrah for the "Big fun for the Family"
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:01 AM
Aug 22

This going back to school before Labor Day is uncivilized.

malthaussen

(17,656 posts)
71. Always after Labor Day...
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 10:36 AM
Aug 22

... I think starting school in August is a travesty, but it appears to be a regional phenomenon.

The schedule, as I recall it, was Labor Day on Monday, an "In service" day for teachers on Tuesday, and then the dogs of woe were released on the Wednesday.

And the school year ended in mid-June.

Like changing Constantinople to Istanbul, why they changed it, I can't say, "people just liked it better that way."

-- Mal

malthaussen

(17,656 posts)
92. Always wondered what teachers did on "in-service" days...
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 01:48 PM
Aug 22

... but figured it was catching up on paperwork and complaining to each other about problem students... like me.

-- Mal

debm55

(35,151 posts)
95. Oh no about two weeks before school started we went to inservice and workshops. They were mostly about new teaching
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 02:00 PM
Aug 22

methods. mainstreaming students with special needs into the classroom. using art and reading books to use with other subjects. Mostly things that would engage all learners. That was done at the University of Pittsburgh. The inservice was usually three days in the school, If we were using a new series of books the company would send a representative to show how thay would be used. and then we would get our supplies -books and decorate our rooms.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
90. Thank you arkielib. That was a bummer. We also started school the day after Jan. I Not break. When we were engaged we
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 01:44 PM
Aug 22

drove up to drove up to Boston so I could meet Rich's family. Driving across PA on I 90 was a bear. Had to be in school on Jan 2 though. 90 was snowy and the blizzard like conditions. Now they start Jan 3.

arkielib

(343 posts)
116. I had forgotten about those early January starts.
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 09:05 PM
Aug 22

And then we had about a week before semester exams. I loved college where the semester actually ended before Christmas and I could enjoy the holiday!

jmowreader

(51,382 posts)
84. We always started after
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 01:06 PM
Aug 22

The town festival is on Labor Day weekend, the elementary school uses City Park for PE, and the Paul Bunyan Days festival uses a good-size chunk of the park for the Blue Ox, “the biggest topless bar in Idaho.” (It’s not topless because the women wear no shirts. It is topless because it has no roof. When I was a youngster the Blue Ox’s walls were war surplus Army latrine screens - long pieces of green canvas the Army puts up around field latrines. Now they do it on the city tennis court.) The school waited until Paul Bunyan Days was over before first day of classes.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
99. Thank you jmowreader. That is sort of funny. I can see why they waited until the Paul Bunyan Days were over.
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 02:08 PM
Aug 22

Diamond_Dog

(34,508 posts)
105. It was always after Labor Day for me
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 02:41 PM
Aug 22

Don’t know why it’s earlier now. Today (Aug. 22) is the first day of classes in my area. Only the high school has a/c here.

My hubby’s birthday is Sept. 5 and he said sometimes his birthday fell on the first day of school, which was a total bummer! And he became a schoolteacher anyway!

AllaN01Bear

(22,982 posts)
111. glendora unified in los angles county started after my birthday , 8/15.57
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 05:12 PM
Aug 22
sept fifteenth. bday coming up !!!!!

ProfessorGAC

(69,681 posts)
113. In Grade School...
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 06:53 PM
Aug 22

...it was the day after Labor Day.
In HS, we started the week before, usually on the Tuesday before Labor Day so there were two 4 day weeks to start the year.
Pretty early around here now.
The school by my house started yesterday & I substituted last Friday the next town over. That was the 4th day for those kids.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
114. Thank you ProfessorGAC. All through grade school Middle and High School it was the day after Labor Day. Even when I
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 07:29 PM
Aug 22

began teaching it was after Labor Day. It can still be very warm or warm the beginning of September, here in SW PA with no AC. One year I did take the second day off from school. It was for fertility -lapocrosopy. I got the Friday off but went back to work Monday. My sister works in a Nursing Home and got the whole month off for the same test.

soldierant

(7,830 posts)
117. Day after Labor Day here - but
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 09:14 PM
Aug 22

where I grew up was not a farming community. In farming communities, the end of school is tied to the neeeds of farms and is earlier than where i was. We didn't finish until after Memorial Day. Where there were farems and farm kids, they get out in May and start in August.

electric_blue68

(17,734 posts)
118. NYC - After Labor Day. Was shocked decades later
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 12:35 AM
Aug 23

to find others started before Labor Day!
We end in Late June.

Was also shocked, and happy to find my College ended in May!

debm55

(35,151 posts)
121. Thank you electric_blue68. College for me started in mid August.and out the end of May. That was a first.
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 09:00 AM
Aug 23

OldBaldy1701E

(6,232 posts)
119. Definitely a different time.
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:57 AM
Aug 23

Yes, except for a very few instances where they wanted to start the Wed. before Labor Day. I suppose it was to help transition the kids from a summer of leisure to 'the grind'. However, our entire system of breaks was different in many ways.

Back when I was in grade school, we got the entire week of Thanksgiving off. Not just the Thursday and Friday.

We also got about a month for the Christmas break. We would get out around December 16th and not go back until after January 6th. (Which is celebrated as 'Old Christmas' where I am from.)

We never got a seasonal break, like 'Spring Break', but we did get an entire week for Easter, usually the Wed. through Friday before it and the Monday and Tuesday after it.

We always went into June. I never got out before the end of May. Now, as an adult, the school where I used to work always let out at the end of May unless we had a large number of snow days to make up. That was so weird to me, being done by Memorial Day.

And lastly, I did not have a classroom with A/C until I was in middle school in the mid 70s. And even then, it was only in the 'new' building. The rest of the school was still using big fans and open windows. In Coastal North Carolina. With almost half the year having temps above 85F, which put the classrooms in the near 100F range every day. We did not take breaks. We did not have teachers reminding us to 'hydrate'. The class would turn in some day work and each sheet was soaked through by the student sweat. Sometimes the teacher would have to spread them on a table to dry out in the fan breeze before they could grade them.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
120. Thank you very much OldBaldy1701E, That was terrible. Especially with the humidity plus the heat. It is hard to get
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 08:55 AM
Aug 23

anything done.

underpants

(186,409 posts)
131. "The Virginia Beach rule" or in Richmond it was the "Kings Dominion rule"
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 11:28 AM
Aug 23

The day after Labor Day so there were workers for tourist season. Now they just import a lot of the workers.

underpants

(186,409 posts)
135. Counties East of 95 are moving back 1 week per school year
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 11:49 AM
Aug 23

To get to an August - May schedule

Counties west and further west got away from this rule starting 15 years ago or so.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
136. Thank you underpants. Very interesting. However to follow this schedule , most schools in the west have AC, those in
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 11:58 AM
Aug 23

the east , do not,

love_katz

(2,776 posts)
139. Always after Labor Day.
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 01:02 PM
Aug 23

None of my schools had A/C until my second year of highschool, when I got to start in a new highschool in a brand new building.

I think it's nuts to start before Labor Day. I have read that starting before Labor Day became a thing when teacher's jobs became dependent on the test scores of their students. The teacher's union asked for an earlier start because they needed more instructional time with the kids to achieve that.

The school year ended in June when I was in school.

I think some of what has changed is that too many parents are working multiple jobs and don't have the time or energy to help their kids with their homework.

I also think that it's counter productive to have school in buildings without A/C when the weather is hot.

debm55

(35,151 posts)
140. Thank you love_katz. No AC is very common in schools not built recently and it was very hot. I went to a Catholic grade
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 01:12 PM
Aug 23

school. No sleeveless dresses. no shorts. no sandals without socks. And back in the primary grades having 50 baby bummers in your room. One classroom per grade.

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