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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsWhen you were a kid, did you start school before or after Labor Day. I always started the day after Labor Day. When did
you start the school year? Thanks We had no AC at the time in the schools.
49jim
(571 posts)in New York State. (my first year-kindergarten 1954). 70 years ago.
wendyb-NC
(3,764 posts)I started school in fall semester, of 1959.
debm55
(35,151 posts)wendyb-NC
(3,764 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)ever stated the reason why,
Jerry2144
(2,612 posts)Of the week after Memorial Day. Those 9 school days sucked. Here in Las Vegas its two weeks before Labor Day until the Friday before Memorial Day.
debm55
(35,151 posts)Jerry2144
(2,612 posts)Although some older schools have had system failures.
Glorfindel
(9,911 posts)That was also the week that the county fair was held. Naturally, I thought it was all in honor of ME!
debm55
(35,151 posts)surfered
(2,794 posts)Permanut
(6,610 posts)Just after dirt was invented.
debm55
(35,151 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)Sneederbunk
(15,045 posts)And we got out during the third week of May.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,887 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)Permanut
(6,610 posts)Kellogg, Gilbert, Colton, Ardenwald, Oak Grove and Woodstock.
So no clue on the start day of any of them. Also don't know why we moved so often. Maybe Dad was trying to stay one step ahead of the law.
That's probably not it, since he had the same steady job all those years as a city bus driver (think skinny Ralph Kramden).
debm55
(35,151 posts)PikaBlue
(258 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)CrispyQ
(38,141 posts)Start school before Labor Day & let out before Memorial Day or start school after Labor Day & end school after Memorial Day. My district started school before & let out before which for me was the preferred way.
debm55
(35,151 posts)changed it --to before Labor Day. Thank you, CrispyQ
Which is why I hated Labor Day, we'd get a day off and have to go straight back to school.
And I hated school.
debm55
(35,151 posts)next day.
anciano
(1,531 posts)No A/C, open windows with no screens, and we had radiators for heat in the winter.
debm55
(35,151 posts)CanonRay
(14,812 posts)Always after Labor Day I think through high school.
debm55
(35,151 posts)livetohike
(22,893 posts)I think they start earlier now.
debm55
(35,151 posts)livetohike
(22,893 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 21, 2024, 03:09 PM - Edit history (1)
in 1958. Dad passed in 2004 and Mom lived there until her death in 2018. Sixty years of memories 🙂.
debm55
(35,151 posts)Different Drummer
(8,460 posts)Usually, the last week of August (Georgia, 60s/70s).
debm55
(35,151 posts)Different Drummer
(8,460 posts)rsdsharp
(10,091 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)rsdsharp
(10,091 posts)LoisB
(8,534 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)LoisB
(8,534 posts)are having a great day.
MiKenMi33
(133 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)FuzzyRabbit
(2,080 posts)Washington state, 1950s and 1960s.
debm55
(35,151 posts)dai13sy
(468 posts)Labor Day was always the first Monday of September which still felt like summer here in Oregon. We didn't have air conditioning either. Thank goodness we mostly sat in warm classrooms in the Winter. I loved going to school once I learned you couldn't just leave whenever you wanted to
debm55
(35,151 posts)AllyCat
(17,023 posts)We were done before Memorial Day but usually ended up going until June 1st or so because we had so many snow days and most of the students were rural.
debm55
(35,151 posts)Blizzards and an Arctic freeze--3 weeks off. We scrambled to make up the days as PA mandate is 180 days or you lost for state funding. It was horrible making up those days and we still went alwost to the end of June with no AC .
Pisces
(5,819 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)sinkingfeeling
(52,963 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)JT45242
(2,848 posts)That meant the first two weeks were 4 day weeks to ease into school. Also, less problems with older not air conditioned buildings.
When I started teaching in the mid 1990s the start date began creeping forward so that the school had more instructionl days before state testing. The problem was that in the district that I taught in, the buildings were all old (youngest was built in the 1950s) and had no air conditioning. So, those last 15 days of August could be so brutally hot that all the kids could do was sit in their sweat and not learn.
Superintendents liked earlier start dates, because they thought kids would have covered a larger percentage of material before the high stakes testing of NCLB or ESSA. I thought those days before about August 25 were just wasted because the kids were miserable. Maybe different in newer buildings with AC
debm55
(35,151 posts)when they changed it, the teachers would cart in fans from home and kids had water bottles at their desks. It was brutal. From a retired teacher in SW PA.
Polly Hennessey
(7,426 posts)summer fun. It was wonderful.
debm55
(35,151 posts)HeartsCanHope
(726 posts)We also didn't have air conditioning.
debm55
(35,151 posts)classroom. PS I did the same when I taught.
HeartsCanHope
(726 posts)Two different times, before my son was born, and then after he was in first grade. Didn't get air conditioning in first teaching stretch, but got it second stretch. Much better after air conditioning, for the kids and teachers!
debm55
(35,151 posts)and student record books that they would pass out during inservice. It is all done on the internet now. I couldn't get used to it.
HeartsCanHope
(726 posts)I was the Elementary Librarian/Computer Teacher. So all I had was a Lesson Plan Book. I also only taught for 6 years total. I was happy at my first school, then stayed home with my son for his first 6 years, but after going back to teaching I was very unhappy at my second school district. I had switched school districts so my son and I were in the same district. My biggest regret was switching--killed any desire to continue to teach. I applaud you for teaching for 40+ years. You rock! It is a difficult profession, but also the most valuable--imho. Children are the future!
catbyte
(35,686 posts)Except for 1967. There was a blizzard in Michigan that was so bad they had to import equipment from Canada to clear our roads and school was closed for two weeks. We got out mid-June that year and there was still snow on north-facing ditches on my birthday, June 20. We had a snowball fight, lol.
debm55
(35,151 posts)JoseBalow
(4,956 posts)Summer vacation meant just that, and it was sacred!
debm55
(35,151 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(10,838 posts)Usually the second Monday in September. I grew up in Madison, WI, and we were on the same schedule as the University of Wisconsin. The first semester didn't end until after Christmas, either, usually the third week in January. We didn't get out until the second week in June, usually. And we NEVER had snow days, didn't even know what one was until my senior year when we had a humongous blizzard and they closed school at 11:30 am. The city buses stopped running at noon and school was out the rest of the week. I think that was a Thursday. We didn't have school buses at all; kids rode city buses with a bus pass..
debm55
(35,151 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(10,838 posts)We didn't have school buses in our district and all the kids who lived any distance out rode city buses, for which they bought a bus pass every semester (very cheaply, I might add). If the buses didn't run, you just didn't go to school and made up the work later. If they were late, you were excused for that. City life! The first snow day was my senior year, and I've mentioned that. The next time schools were closed was the humongous St. Patrick's Day blizzard of 1964, which hit after midnight that day. Even the university was closed. Times are different now, of course.
fmdaddio
(219 posts)From Long Island NY. We had a short first week to get back into school mode.
debm55
(35,151 posts)Deep State Witch
(11,218 posts)We usually started the Monday before Labor Day.
debm55
(35,151 posts)Deep State Witch
(11,218 posts)My elementary school was pretty old by the time I got there, so we didn't have AC. We had the windows open from what I can remember. But back in the '70's, it was pretty decent in Pittsburgh the last week of August.
Gaytano70
(1,207 posts)Now that I'm a teacher, I don't mind beginning before because we are done earlier in the year 🤓
debm55
(35,151 posts)Gaytano70
(1,207 posts)New semester begins on Monday. Record enrollments this year!
Siwsan
(27,257 posts)And the school year ended before my birthday, June 9. We didn't get the long breaks schools have now.
debm55
(35,151 posts)MacKasey
(1,168 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)MacKasey
(1,168 posts)I graduated back in the 70's so things have changed
But I still think opening school after Labor day is a good
And we did not have AC back then also
debm55
(35,151 posts)whathehell
(29,723 posts)I was surprised when I found out some states started in late August..It seems strange to me.
debm55
(35,151 posts)whathehell
(29,723 posts)I know that autumn doesn't officially begin until late September, but August is indisputably summer!
Were I student (or teacher) I'd be righeously pissed!
P.S. Can I ask where you teach?..I went to a school in Philadelphia.
debm55
(35,151 posts)remember the name , and , address. of the school.
whathehell
(29,723 posts)Northeast Philly and went to school there. Just curious Deb, but are
you still teaching, or are you retired?
debm55
(35,151 posts)whathehell
(29,723 posts)That said, I would think there'd be a lot of volunteer opportunities for retired teachers, if you were interested.
debm55
(35,151 posts)steps. The office would not call an ambulance or drive me to the hospital. I left and drove 6 miles home with a concussion. My head heart and I took a Advil and went to sleep. Not a good thing. That was in April and I did not go back. When I came back I was given the job as a teacher on a cart. During the summer I had to learn to talk, walk and use my cognitive abilities. again. Teachers complained that I did not show up to the class on time and they missed part of their prep period. I called the PA Workmens Compensation --only students were witness, so the no WC. Unemployment---I was fired =no UC. Non Union school. that tells you everything. I threw everything I saved for 40 some years in the school trash bin. Most, if not all I bought. People say I should have gotten a lawyer. It was a Catholic school, I haven't stepped foot in a church since then(except for my fathers funeral Mass) I received envelopes this morning I put them in the shredder. What really hurt, was that the teachers there==the ones I made christmas sweatshirts for never called, never sent me a card. Neither did the school principal. It left a bad taste in my mouth. Not about teaching, but about the school.
whathehell
(29,723 posts)sounds absolutely AWFUL...Hard to believe you'd be treated so badly..That said, your case reminds me of another I know of. A friend of mine, a nurse, injured herself while on duty -- picking up something she was told to pick up. While doing so, she injured her hand permanently and couldn't work as a nurse anymore, after which, as I recall, they tried to fire her. She did go to a lawyer who not only got her a nice monetary settlement, he made the hospital re-hire her for another non- nursing position.
Elessar Zappa
(15,717 posts)We always started by August 15th and were out for the summer by May 25th.
debm55
(35,151 posts)sakabatou
(42,952 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)carpetbagger
(4,707 posts)NY, IL, MD after. TX, FL before.
debm55
(35,151 posts)after Christmas break. We had a blizzard ==Missed five days of school . The following week an Arctic Freeze- missed 5 days.of
school. There was no 5 day weeks of school during Jan, Feb and March(when we had another blizzard) In PA you most go to school for 180 days to get state funding. No days off the rest of the year And we went to the end of June. Schools around here now have at least 5 snow days built into the schedule. If none are used you get out 5 days early. Oh that was the last time we started after Labor Day.
chouchou
(1,265 posts)This going back to school before Labor Day is uncivilized.
debm55
(35,151 posts)chouchou
(1,265 posts)malthaussen
(17,656 posts)... I think starting school in August is a travesty, but it appears to be a regional phenomenon.
The schedule, as I recall it, was Labor Day on Monday, an "In service" day for teachers on Tuesday, and then the dogs of woe were released on the Wednesday.
And the school year ended in mid-June.
Like changing Constantinople to Istanbul, why they changed it, I can't say, "people just liked it better that way."
-- Mal
debm55
(35,151 posts)malthaussen
(17,656 posts)... but figured it was catching up on paperwork and complaining to each other about problem students... like me.
-- Mal
debm55
(35,151 posts)methods. mainstreaming students with special needs into the classroom. using art and reading books to use with other subjects. Mostly things that would engage all learners. That was done at the University of Pittsburgh. The inservice was usually three days in the school, If we were using a new series of books the company would send a representative to show how thay would be used. and then we would get our supplies -books and decorate our rooms.
beaglelover
(4,014 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)OLDMDDEM
(2,065 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)Started the day after Labor Day.
debm55
(35,151 posts)drove up to drove up to Boston so I could meet Rich's family. Driving across PA on I 90 was a bear. Had to be in school on Jan 2 though. 90 was snowy and the blizzard like conditions. Now they start Jan 3.
arkielib
(343 posts)And then we had about a week before semester exams. I loved college where the semester actually ended before Christmas and I could enjoy the holiday!
debm55
(35,151 posts)jimfields33
(18,602 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)jmowreader
(51,382 posts)The town festival is on Labor Day weekend, the elementary school uses City Park for PE, and the Paul Bunyan Days festival uses a good-size chunk of the park for the Blue Ox, the biggest topless bar in Idaho. (Its not topless because the women wear no shirts. It is topless because it has no roof. When I was a youngster the Blue Oxs walls were war surplus Army latrine screens - long pieces of green canvas the Army puts up around field latrines. Now they do it on the city tennis court.) The school waited until Paul Bunyan Days was over before first day of classes.
debm55
(35,151 posts)Diamond_Dog
(34,508 posts)Dont know why its earlier now. Today (Aug. 22) is the first day of classes in my area. Only the high school has a/c here.
My hubbys birthday is Sept. 5 and he said sometimes his birthday fell on the first day of school, which was a total bummer! And he became a schoolteacher anyway!
debm55
(35,151 posts)Diamond_Dog
(34,508 posts)Last night Gov. Walz said never underestimate a school teacher!
Emile
(29,295 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)AllaN01Bear
(22,982 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)ProfessorGAC
(69,681 posts)...it was the day after Labor Day.
In HS, we started the week before, usually on the Tuesday before Labor Day so there were two 4 day weeks to start the year.
Pretty early around here now.
The school by my house started yesterday & I substituted last Friday the next town over. That was the 4th day for those kids.
debm55
(35,151 posts)began teaching it was after Labor Day. It can still be very warm or warm the beginning of September, here in SW PA with no AC. One year I did take the second day off from school. It was for fertility -lapocrosopy. I got the Friday off but went back to work Monday. My sister works in a Nursing Home and got the whole month off for the same test.
Eugene
(62,626 posts)1970s Massachusetts, but some towns started earlier.
debm55
(35,151 posts)soldierant
(7,830 posts)where I grew up was not a farming community. In farming communities, the end of school is tied to the neeeds of farms and is earlier than where i was. We didn't finish until after Memorial Day. Where there were farems and farm kids, they get out in May and start in August.
debm55
(35,151 posts)electric_blue68
(17,734 posts)to find others started before Labor Day!
We end in Late June.
Was also shocked, and happy to find my College ended in May!
debm55
(35,151 posts)electric_blue68
(17,734 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(6,232 posts)Yes, except for a very few instances where they wanted to start the Wed. before Labor Day. I suppose it was to help transition the kids from a summer of leisure to 'the grind'. However, our entire system of breaks was different in many ways.
Back when I was in grade school, we got the entire week of Thanksgiving off. Not just the Thursday and Friday.
We also got about a month for the Christmas break. We would get out around December 16th and not go back until after January 6th. (Which is celebrated as 'Old Christmas' where I am from.)
We never got a seasonal break, like 'Spring Break', but we did get an entire week for Easter, usually the Wed. through Friday before it and the Monday and Tuesday after it.
We always went into June. I never got out before the end of May. Now, as an adult, the school where I used to work always let out at the end of May unless we had a large number of snow days to make up. That was so weird to me, being done by Memorial Day.
And lastly, I did not have a classroom with A/C until I was in middle school in the mid 70s. And even then, it was only in the 'new' building. The rest of the school was still using big fans and open windows. In Coastal North Carolina. With almost half the year having temps above 85F, which put the classrooms in the near 100F range every day. We did not take breaks. We did not have teachers reminding us to 'hydrate'. The class would turn in some day work and each sheet was soaked through by the student sweat. Sometimes the teacher would have to spread them on a table to dry out in the fan breeze before they could grade them.
debm55
(35,151 posts)anything done.
underpants
(186,409 posts)The day after Labor Day so there were workers for tourist season. Now they just import a lot of the workers.
debm55
(35,151 posts)underpants
(186,409 posts)To get to an August - May schedule
Counties west and further west got away from this rule starting 15 years ago or so.
debm55
(35,151 posts)the east , do not,
gibraltar72
(7,629 posts)debm55
(35,151 posts)love_katz
(2,776 posts)None of my schools had A/C until my second year of highschool, when I got to start in a new highschool in a brand new building.
I think it's nuts to start before Labor Day. I have read that starting before Labor Day became a thing when teacher's jobs became dependent on the test scores of their students. The teacher's union asked for an earlier start because they needed more instructional time with the kids to achieve that.
The school year ended in June when I was in school.
I think some of what has changed is that too many parents are working multiple jobs and don't have the time or energy to help their kids with their homework.
I also think that it's counter productive to have school in buildings without A/C when the weather is hot.
debm55
(35,151 posts)school. No sleeveless dresses. no shorts. no sandals without socks. And back in the primary grades having 50 baby bummers in your room. One classroom per grade.