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MLF1981

(211 posts)
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 05:02 PM Sep 2024

Well, I got a message that said I should introduce myself, so I guess I will...

Last edited Mon Sep 2, 2024, 05:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Hi everyone! Looong time lurker, I've been reading stuff on DU for over 20 years, ever since my brother and some friends were sent to Iraq because a certain terrible President who happened to look and act remarkably like a chimp decided that he was going to invade a country on false pretexts. I decided to finally sign up and share my thoughts with the class, lol.

I have always enjoyed reading the spirited discussions on here, and as a life-long Democrat (both big D and small d) it really did me a lot of good knowing that there are a lot of like minded people in the world, even if it doesn't always seem like it given that I live in one of the reddest states in the country. After the country being inflicted with nearly a decade of a corpulent orange imbecile's insane ranting, it feels so refreshing to know that the party (and seemingly a good portion of the nation) is ready to move on and finally make progress.

Don't get me wrong, I love Joe Biden, and really appreciate everything that he's done, which he doesn't get nearly enough credit for, but seeing a Presidential candidate who more closely reflects my experience as a middle-aged person is exciting. And not just for me, the younger people in my life seem equally as enthusiastic. Honestly, it reminds me quite a bit of Obama's campaign in 2008. I sincerely hope that this is the collective moment when we all can finally turn the page on Trump and everything that he represents and move forward.

We are NOT going back!

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Well, I got a message that said I should introduce myself, so I guess I will... (Original Post) MLF1981 Sep 2024 OP
Good to meet you! GentryDixon Sep 2024 #1
Welcome to DU, MLF1981. elleng Sep 2024 #2
East Tennessee. MLF1981 Sep 2024 #8
Thank you, MLF1981, for this detailed response, and elleng Sep 2024 #13
Welcome from East TN TNNurse Sep 2024 #16
Hi Neighbor! MLF1981 Sep 2024 #19
I'm curious Katcat Sep 2024 #18
Well... MLF1981 Sep 2024 #23
Welcome to formally becoming DU carpetbagger Sep 2024 #39
Ha... MLF1981 Sep 2024 #46
Welcome! Sparkly Sep 2024 #51
Just curious, True Dough Sep 2024 #55
Well... MLF1981 Sep 2024 #72
Welcome aboard, MLF1981 peggysue2 Sep 2024 #65
Hi there! MLF1981 Sep 2024 #73
Hahahaha! peggysue2 Sep 2024 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Sep 2024 #66
Howdy! ShazzieB Sep 2024 #68
Hi there! MLF1981 Sep 2024 #74
Hello Americanme Sep 2024 #3
Same to you! MLF1981 Sep 2024 #9
Welcome to DU! ms liberty Sep 2024 #33
about time you joined us! Skittles Sep 2024 #4
It's a pleasure to be here and share ideas with y'all. MLF1981 Sep 2024 #11
Good to meet you. Biophilic Sep 2024 #5
Hi there! From another longtime lurker. MerrilyMerrily Sep 2024 #6
Greetings and congratulations on your delurking :) Pluvious Sep 2024 #7
I've often wondered how many long-term lurkers we had and whether something might induce them to post. hlthe2b Sep 2024 #10
I did. Tom Dyer Sep 2024 #22
Good on you! hlthe2b Sep 2024 #24
Welcome to DU sinkingfeeling Sep 2024 #12
Welcome! So glad you and the young people you know are happy about our MaryMagdaline Sep 2024 #14
Hello! Glad to see you again Coexist Sep 2024 #15
Likewise! MLF1981 Sep 2024 #49
Hello from WV Katcat Sep 2024 #17
Welcome Underground proud patriot Sep 2024 #20
Welcome to DU! sheshe2 Sep 2024 #21
Welcome 😁 TommieMommy Sep 2024 #25
Welcome to DU! ms liberty Sep 2024 #32
Welcome to the discussion, MLF1981 Hekate Sep 2024 #26
Welcome officially to our DU family, and so glad you finally decided to niyad Sep 2024 #27
Welcome to DU! SheltieLover Sep 2024 #28
Great intro! anciano Sep 2024 #29
Glad you joined up GAJMac Sep 2024 #30
Welcome to DU! Nice post. ms liberty Sep 2024 #31
Welcome to DU! Pull up a chair.... sarchasm Sep 2024 #34
Welcome to DU! TomSlick Sep 2024 #35
Welcome to DU, MLF1981! calimary Sep 2024 #36
Welcome aboard! OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2024 #37
Welcome! Grumpy Old Guy Sep 2024 #38
Welcome!!! COL Mustard Sep 2024 #40
Welcome to DU, officially. Dem2theMax Sep 2024 #41
Welcome! SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2024 #42
Welcome to DU MLF1981. Great post. c-rational Sep 2024 #43
Welcome to DU LittleGirl Sep 2024 #44
Hi there, MLF1981. Hope to hear more from you. LoisB Sep 2024 #45
... markie Sep 2024 #47
I'd Say Welcome To DU, But... ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #48
A fellow lurker since 2004 welcomes you! I finally joined in 2024 too! Dem4life1970 Sep 2024 #50
The Smirking Chimp! You reminded me. It's actually still going. Anyway, welcome! captain queeg Sep 2024 #52
👍 Welcome! dchill Sep 2024 #53
Welcome! Looking forward to hear more from you! Think. Again. Sep 2024 #54
Welcome to DU, MLF1981 democrank Sep 2024 #56
Welcome to DU. malthaussen Sep 2024 #57
Welcome to DU! PatSeg Sep 2024 #58
WELCOME Old Okie Sep 2024 #59
Welcome appleannie1 Sep 2024 #60
Look at all the lurkers you've drawn from their "shadows"? You kin to the Pied Piper? jaxexpat Sep 2024 #61
Welcome, and aloha kaua. mahina Sep 2024 #62
Welcome to DU MLF1981 sdfernando Sep 2024 #63
Welcome and enjoy yourself. debm55 Sep 2024 #64
Welcome to DU!! ailsagirl Sep 2024 #67
Welcome malaise Sep 2024 #69
Glad you are here. I learn some things here. Enjoy your stay. twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #70
Welcome home, MLF1981! Niagara Sep 2024 #71

elleng

(136,839 posts)
2. Welcome to DU, MLF1981.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 05:08 PM
Sep 2024

We'd like to know how things look in your red state, from a close-up view; where are you?

MLF1981

(211 posts)
8. East Tennessee.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 05:29 PM
Sep 2024

Outside of Knoxville quite a ways. It's Trump country all the way. But I have definitely noticed a lot less enthusiasm in my neck of the woods, a lot fewer bumper stickers aside from old 2016 or 2020 ones, way fewer yard signs or vulgar displays to glorify their orange Jesus. Since I'm a middle aged white guy, most people where I live assume that I support their ideas and also worship their false God... I've heard a lot less vocal support from some of my neighbors. They're still going to vote for him I'm sure, because the evil libruls drink the blood of freshly sacrificed babies in a post-birth abortion (yes, I've really had a nutter "explain" this to me) but in general, they're definitely not as jazzed this time around as they were four or eight years ago.

I will go to my grave not understanding even the slightest bit why anyone would support that poor excuse for a man, but millions do... Just because I don't understand it doesn't mean that I can't understand why THEY feel that way. I grew up in Appalachia, and I really do think that for a lot of people in my area, it comes down to two things:

1. After being ignored for decades, and watching our communities hollow out as coal, steel, and other manufacturing all gradually died, here comes this guy who says, "I know you're hurting, and I alone can fix it. We'll bring back coal! We'll bring back steel! The plant that closed 15 years ago is going to open again!" and they fall for it hook, line and sinker. Never mind that literally nothing he said came to pass in his term, he said it, and that's all that matters.

2. For a lot of them, mostly economically disadvantaged people, they don't even care about the message, Donald Trump is just a giant middle finger to everyone in Washington who feels, and not without justification, that we've been abandoned. No state in Appalachia is a swing state, so we don't even get pandered to during campaign season. All anyone sees is rich politicians completely ignoring their struggles, and continually making policies that make their lives worse. Trump is the ultimate "fuck you" to a system that threw them overboard 30 years ago.

Now obviously, both of these positions are nonsensical, and in the case of the latter, actively counterproductive. But desperate people will latch on to anything that offers hope, even false hope and that is the one thing that Donald Trump does have to offer. False hope.

Katcat

(379 posts)
18. I'm curious
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 06:01 PM
Sep 2024

I’m sure I know plenty of republicans but I don’t talk politics with them (WV). I have noticed that there are VERY VERY FEW trump signs in yards and that amazes me, because WV.
Anyway I’m curious as to how someone could describe a POST BIRTH ABORTION like it’s a real thing.

MLF1981

(211 posts)
23. Well...
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 06:22 PM
Sep 2024

The guy who was "explaining" this to me is a QAnon type who also told me a lot of crazy and outlandish things over the years. He genuinely believes that Democratic politicians sacrifice newborn babies to drink their blood. He's a neighbor of mine, and I just nod implacably until he goes away. You can't get through to someone like that, no matter how hard you try.

Just out of curiosity, what part of WV are you from? I lived in Morgantown for a few years.

carpetbagger

(4,882 posts)
39. Welcome to formally becoming DU
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 07:36 PM
Sep 2024

I live in Texas, did some postdoc work at WVU in the 90s and lived there for a bit, then was WVU faculty at a remote site. Back in the good days.

MLF1981

(211 posts)
46. Ha...
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 07:50 PM
Sep 2024

Never went to school there, but if you ate at the Montmarte on the top floor of the Hotel Morgan during that time, I may have been your chef. Small world. yeah?

True Dough

(20,869 posts)
55. Just curious,
Tue Sep 3, 2024, 06:48 AM
Sep 2024

there's been several headlines over the past year or two about rising neo-nazism in the Nashville area. It's hard to get a handle on how extensive that is. I suspect it might be a few hundred people at most, but it's easy enough to get attention when acting like a bunch of jackasses in public.

Have you seen anything of the like in your area of the state or while passing through Nashville?

Welcome to the DU, MLF1981.

MLF1981

(211 posts)
72. Well...
Tue Sep 3, 2024, 04:45 PM
Sep 2024

"Have you seen anything of the like in your area of the state or while passing through Nashville? "

Nope, nothing like that here, very red area and there are definitely racists here but nothing so overt. As far as Nashville, I can't really say, I only ever go there if I need to fly somewhere, because even though it's a long drive, tickets usually cost 50% less than they do flying out of Knoxville.

peggysue2

(11,520 posts)
65. Welcome aboard, MLF1981
Tue Sep 3, 2024, 01:30 PM
Sep 2024

My husband and I moved out of East Tennessee a little over 2 years ago and headed back north to family and old friends including my 4-year old grand daughter. We lived 18 miles west of Knoxville. Although the countryside is beautiful, the mountains awesome, the region never felt like home. The Covid years were insane pitting neighbors against neighbors in many areas. We were fortunate that our surrounding neighbors were rational, dependable and Never Trumpers.

You can keep us abreast of the election tensions in the area as November approaches. And the aftermath which should be interesting. There are pockets of Democrats throughout the state. Just not enough. I'd love to see Blackburn gone but that probably won't happen; Republicans and Trump devotion are deeply entrenched.

Keep us posted and again Welcome.

MLF1981

(211 posts)
73. Hi there!
Tue Sep 3, 2024, 04:52 PM
Sep 2024

"We lived 18 miles west of Knoxville."

Were y'all out in Farragut?

"You can keep us abreast of the election tensions in the area as November approaches. And the aftermath which should be interesting. There are pockets of Democrats throughout the state. Just not enough. I'd love to see Blackburn gone but that probably won't happen"

Will do, and yep, there are pockets of blue throughout, just not enough of them. Memphis, Nashville and Knoxville, a bit less in Chatanooga and the Tri-Cities area, but the rest of this state is pretty much blood red. Marsha Blackburn is a disgrace, she's pretty much what you'd get if you crossed Kelly Bundy with Cruella DeVille.

peggysue2

(11,520 posts)
75. Hahahaha!
Tue Sep 3, 2024, 05:13 PM
Sep 2024

Blackburn as a cross between Kelly Bundy and Cruella DeVille. I'll have to remember that!

And yes, you called it--Farragut was where we lived. Pretty area and I liked my home but once our grand daughter was born there was no way we were trekking back and forth between Knoxville and the Philly suburbs. Been there, done that for more years than I like to remember.

We moved right after the initial Covid crisis eased, then spent 18 months finding permanent housing up here. But in the end, it was worth the expense and nerve-wracking work. Get to see my kids on a regular basis now and then the grand baby, of course.

I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

Response to MLF1981 (Reply #8)

ShazzieB

(18,925 posts)
68. Howdy!
Tue Sep 3, 2024, 01:43 PM
Sep 2024

I have roots in East Tennessee, Chattanooga, to be exact. My mom was born and raised there, and I spent most of my childhood in the area. We moved to Illinois when I was 12 (62 years ago, I am old), and my lord, what a culture shock that was! But I eventually adapted, and I have lived in this state ever since, except for 3 years in NC back in the 80s (long story). I went to college here and married a guy from the Chicago area that I met in college, and I feel like a dyed in the wool midwesterner at this point in my life.

But I still feel a connection to Tennessee and always will. After my dad retired, my parents moved back to the Chattanooga area for the warmer weather and proximity to family. They settled in a rural area, just over the state line in GA (in what is now MTG's district *gag*). We visited numerous times over the years, and I had a lot of fun revisiting places I remembered from my childhood and sharing them with my husband, and later, my daughter.

My parents passed away a while back, and we haven't been down there since, but east Tennessee will always be a part of me. Especially the mountains, which I still miss.

Welcome to being a participating DU member, MLF1981, and may your stay be long and fruitful!

MLF1981

(211 posts)
74. Hi there!
Tue Sep 3, 2024, 05:06 PM
Sep 2024

Always nice to talk with someone who knows this part of the world. It sounds like the Midwest has been good to you, and I'm glad for that.

"Especially the mountains, which I still miss. "

I grew up in the mountains, and any time that I've been to a flat place where you can see from horizon to horizon, it seriously makes me uncomfortable. I have an uncle who lives in Nebraska, and it's always so unsettling to see how damn flat that place is...

Americanme

(77 posts)
3. Hello
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 05:10 PM
Sep 2024

I'm another long time reader, just recently started posting. I started reading DU more than 20 years ago also, learned of it through Bartcop. Been visiting daily ever since. Welcome.

MLF1981

(211 posts)
11. It's a pleasure to be here and share ideas with y'all.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 05:36 PM
Sep 2024

"we need all the help we can get"

I'm sure willing to do my part!

Pluvious

(4,809 posts)
7. Greetings and congratulations on your delurking :)
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 05:24 PM
Sep 2024

Literally decades ago I wrote a similar Howdy Y'all post after a few years of lurking,
finally so triggered (not a word we used back then lol) by The Chimp and his
Haliberton Handler - it was time to start sharing too !

Cheers

hlthe2b

(106,786 posts)
10. I've often wondered how many long-term lurkers we had and whether something might induce them to post.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 05:30 PM
Sep 2024

WELCOME! I'm glad you DID. Hopefully, Kamala-Walz will have more joining us.

MaryMagdaline

(7,919 posts)
14. Welcome! So glad you and the young people you know are happy about our
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 05:41 PM
Sep 2024

candidate! Positivity is infectious

TommieMommy

(1,221 posts)
25. Welcome 😁
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 06:30 PM
Sep 2024

I joined up recently and glad I finally did. I'm in Florida. Enjoy 😁. Voting blue so we don't go back 💙

niyad

(120,684 posts)
27. Welcome officially to our DU family, and so glad you finally decided to
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 06:41 PM
Sep 2024

come in from the cold. We are looking forward to your posts.

calimary

(84,612 posts)
36. Welcome to DU, MLF1981!
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 07:27 PM
Sep 2024

Congratulations on a really terrific post!

Glad you're here and I hope to read more from you. Lifelong D and d member, myself. I watched and listened to the Republicans and never could fit with what they professed to believe. The Democratic and liberal-leaning worldview and mindset is just... well... the way I lean, myself, and always have.

The access here to some of the greatest contemporary writers on earth is not just eye-opening but also inspiring and tremendously informative. I've learned so much, here, and gained a much more well-rounded understanding than I ever could have without it.

Glad you're here and formally weighing in!

Dem2theMax

(10,405 posts)
41. Welcome to DU, officially.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 07:41 PM
Sep 2024

The more the merrier! And we need all the Democratic voices we can get.

LittleGirl

(8,499 posts)
44. Welcome to DU
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 07:47 PM
Sep 2024

I lurked for a couple of years before I signed up too. It's a family here and I'm glad you joined in.

ProfessorGAC

(70,625 posts)
48. I'd Say Welcome To DU, But...
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 08:28 PM
Sep 2024

...you've been here for 20 years.
So, I guess it's more "Welcome to the conversation!"

Old Okie

(199 posts)
59. WELCOME
Tue Sep 3, 2024, 11:34 AM
Sep 2024

Just adding my welcome as another longtime Lurker who only recently joined. I now live in blue MD but have family in very red OK and TX so I feel your pain.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
61. Look at all the lurkers you've drawn from their "shadows"? You kin to the Pied Piper?
Tue Sep 3, 2024, 12:13 PM
Sep 2024

You've started, or for sure verified, something, I think. Welcome one and all. I apologize in advance for my trademark irascibility and am pleased to meet you. I've noticed some from Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia....Did I miss anybody? Hoping for Nebraska and even Kansas to enter the light, someday.

This miniature island of de-lurking reflects, I believe, that people have had enough of this ridiculous clamor from charlatans, fools and psychotics like Trump. Many having, long ago, lost patience of being force-fed obvious propaganda suggesting they'd better accept and tolerate the clamor in perpetuity or else. Most Americans, even in the red states, still believe in a federal government whose purpose is to strive toward the general welfare of the people as stated in the Constitution. They, and I, await, with impatience, the rebirth of a good government and re-establishment of a just society, which will arrive when we free the hope of problems logically solved by plans based on actual facts from the wasteland where it remains stranded, banished by escapees from justice in the Republican House, misled by a corrupt USSC majority and muted by the endless prating of a corporate media.

The US, the world's premier nation cannot tolerate rule by an extraordinarily large crop of village idiots (and half-witted Nazis) after next January. The planet needs us to be, unwaveringly, on the right side of history. If we aren't, there will not be a future.

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