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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsIs anyone here old enough to remember walking up to your TV set, pushing a button on the TV...
...and, you know, the TV would come on, and you would sit back and watch it, and when you wanted to change the channel, say to channel 3, and and you would turn a mechanical knob to channel 3, the TV would immediately change to channel 3, and you would watch that program? And then when you were done watching TV, you would get up and hit the button and the TV would turn off and you would go about your business?
This was well before the present time, when you take a remote device and turn your TV on by hitting 3 buttons on the remote to turn on your fucking cable box and the TV itself, then wait 5 seconds for everything to boot up, and then on the screen, a message appears that says "please call 1-800-Time Waste to have your cable service restored", and you sit there thinking "I haven't once missed a cable payment in, oh, 5 or 6 decades, why is my service cancelled"?
And then you call the Spectrum 800 number to see what's going on, and you get an automated, pleasant female voice asking for the security code on your bill before they talk to you about what your issue is, and you say to this automated voice "I don't know", and she says "I'm sorry, I didn't understand you, please provide the security number on your bill", and you say "Unsure", and the voice says "I'm sorry, I didn't understand you", and you scream into the phone "I don't fucking know", and there is silence for 30 seconds, and then the voice says "I will transfer you to a representative".
Then you get another recording that says "your approximate wait time is 30 minutes". So you put your phone on speaker and sit there trying to eat your lunch before the representative comes on the phone, but they come on earlier than 30 minutes, and you have a mouthful of split pea soup, and you don't want the representative to think you were not there anymore, so you try to talk with the split pea soup in your mouth and you dribble it down the front of your shirt?
Then the representative says since you don't have the security code off your bill, they need to verify your identity another way by asking for your mother's maiden name, your address, your pet's name, and a close up picture of your genitals.
Then, when you get through all of that, you explain the problem, and the representative tells you to unplug the cable box, and you tell him that you have a bad back and you are not moving any fucking furniture to unplug the cable box, so he tells you to use the reset button. so you go to the cable box to use the reset button, but you can't find it because it is recessed and it is black, like everything else on the cable box, so you're going by feel, while the rest of your soup is getting cold. So you yell at your speaker phone "I CAN'T FIND THE BUTTON", and the representative yells back "IT'S UNDER THE SECOND S IN THE WORD SAMSUNG".
So you find the button and hold it for 30 seconds, and the cable box cycles through cryptic codes for 15 minutes and your soup is ice cold by now, while your TV says on the screen "your TV will be with you in a moment".
And the cable box finally resets, but you are getting the same message to call customer service to have your service restored.
So you state that to the representative, and he says that he will have to send a signal to your cable box. And he sends the signal and you wait for another 15 minutes for it to reset, and then finally, the TV comes on, but you forgot why you wanted to watch TV in the first place, so you go back to your cold soup, which now tastes like split pea ice cream.
Ocelot II
(120,601 posts)no
Dont have cable but I do like split pea ice cream
you gonna finish that?
😁
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Beartracks
(13,557 posts)The other way around would be a whole new tier of account security.
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central scrutinizer
(12,440 posts)Carefully fiddling with the horizontal and vertical hold knobs to get a steady picture in the good old days
rsdsharp
(10,097 posts)And periodically having to take the tubes to the tube tester in the hardware store to find out which one was bad, and if that didnt work having to call the TV repairman to come to the house to fix it.
And when you got it fixed, your local station was likely to put up the Were having technical difficulties sign. I think they kept that right next to the test pattern, which we saw at the start of every broadcast day.
mwooldri
(10,386 posts)The regional commercial TV stations in the UK had a set pattern to their opening and closing.
Opening - at least a station logo, usually with Independent Broadcasting Authority logo. Definitely some jaunty music, IBA said it has to be instrumental - no singing! Sometimes a promo film. A menu for upcoming programming and then on with the show so to speak. Example from Anglia TV, late 70s/early 80s.
Closing - maybe some late news, some religious faff, usually weather. Some stations did close with the national anthem but not all did. Westward TV closed down like this....
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Over on the BBC - a bit more cut and dry. BBC 2 simply says "that's it" and shuts up shop. BBC 1 is a bit more graceful...
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As for that "technical fault board" you talk about .... here's a look behind the scenes of BBC 1 closing down for the night in 1971.. notice the boards that the camera could point to?
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WestMichRad
(1,769 posts)So when there was a problem with the TV, hed just swap it out for another that he had repaired (since he had a shop full of repaired ones that had been discarded by previous owners).
MUCH faster than calling a customer service number!!
Unfortunately, living in a very rural area, we only got signals for CBS and NBC when I was a kid. I lived a deprived childhood!
rsdsharp
(10,097 posts)although both ABC affiliates had relatively weak signals until the mid to late 60s.
Doodley
(10,270 posts)3Hotdogs
(13,363 posts)Or on Channel 9, The Million Dollar Movie would play, three times a day/night.
At midnight or 2 a.m., depending on the station, the Star Spangled Banner would play, followed by the "test pattern." 6 am, programming would resume.
Gruenemann
(1,035 posts)The power switch was integrated with the volume knob. There were also knobs that controlled the vertical and horzonal scanning, and a brightness control. When color came in there were knobs to change the color, too!
HighFired49
(382 posts)You had color? When I first saw tv, the picture was about 8x12 in. and black and white. No color available. You had to fiddle with the rabbit ears (antenna) to get some sort of picture after a 3 minute warm up, and everyone had to sit within about a 5 foot radius of the set to be able to see what was going on. It would be about 10 years before color was available when I first saw tv, but I can appreciate the issues we have today. Still lots of issues but of a different nature. Actually, I think that the current technology has created worse problems, and looooong hold times. The technology used to be so simple that if there was some sort of problem you just turned off the set and came back later, nobody to call and nothing we could fix at home. I find the complexity of the problems today way too frustrating. Ah, the good ole days! (or not)
dem4decades
(11,886 posts)the other way.
brewens
(15,359 posts)to take turns holding the antenna up just right to get a clear picture. I bet you had a button for that to didn't you! LOL
duncang
(3,540 posts)To test your tubes and get a replacement?
Dave in VA
(2,182 posts)Well, except for the split pea soup. Mine would be cheddar cheese soup with broccoli and a big hunk of day old French baguette!
Srkdqltr
(7,617 posts)Won't carry it this Sat. either. Tv is sure fun.
XanaDUer2
(13,737 posts)And we all survived and Life was a lot easier and less syressful. I miss local stations' homegrown television programs like Big Wilsons Nite Owl movies.
I miss not having a plethora of channels to choose from! Like I said, EVERYBODY survived . Never had to make one stressful call to any number. Just buy tv, plug in, turn on.
I'm not liking modern society.
mzmolly
(51,543 posts)And using a coat hanger for an antenna, turning it to better tune into the signal.
Sneederbunk
(15,051 posts)We had only one channel.
Diamond_Dog
(34,536 posts)We have five, count em, five remotes. Im afraid to even get near the damn machine.
Silent Type
(6,473 posts)When I got older, I refused to get a remote control for a long time, then I found how disrupting surfing the 8 channels available could be when you had to get up turn the channel, then adjust volume.
TlalocW
(15,623 posts)When I was laid off from a programming job after the tech bubble burst, I got a job at DirecTV doing tech support. I got a call from a guy wanting me to reorder all the channels.
Oh, do you mean set up a favorites list?
No, I want the channels reordered.
I don't think I can do that.
(Not listening as he clicks through channels) Who would watch that? And this channel has the same thing as this channel and as this channel and...
Do all those channels end with NBC?
Yes.
Those are the Olympics.
Anyway, I need the channels reordered to how I like them.
(Pause then start randomly banging on the keyboard) Okay, sir. We're able to see what channels you watch the most, and I'm currently resetting the order of your channels. Now it's going to take 24 hours to take effect so please give it that long. If you have any problems, feel free to call back.
Thank you.
Thank you for choosing DirecTV.
House of Roberts
(5,675 posts)unlike my experience last night.
I picked up my remote to return my Vizio TV to the watchfree input so I could leave it on BBC News as I slept, in case I woke up and WW3 had been declared in the Middle East. My screen brought up the ABC channel because I had been watching MNF. Then the screen went black. I couldn't tell if the TV was on or off and it wouldn't respond, so I had to unplug it and let it recover. When it did come back on, finally, in the upper part of the screen it said 'Firmware Update Do not turn off your TV'. There I am, with sound on, and can't mute or lower the volume, or change the channel, until it had its way with me. By the time it went back to normal, I'm up almost an hour past my intended bedtime, and wide awake, due to my anxiety attack over the TV. I had never had a 'Firmware Update' before. At least next time, I won't have to panic at the idea the TV has just croaked, like I keep hearing how these things do without warning.
Those old TVs you could number the tubes as you removed them, carry them to the electronics store, test each one until you found the bad one, buy its replacement, and reinstall them all, and the TV would just work again.
Jim__
(14,442 posts)... number associated with each problem. If my specific problem isn't listed, and I just pick something that might be close, and I do get to a human and I describe my problem to him/her, they tell me that's not the problem they work on and they throw me back onto the phone queue where I am returned to the voice giving me the list of problems that don't match my specific problem. I actually have to hang up, drive to the Xfinity store, wait a half hour to an hour in line, then describe my problem to the rep. If I'm lucky, they'll recognize my problem and tell me to call back to the phone queue and give me the correct number to select for my problem. If I'm not lucky, they'll promise to send out a rep within the week.
spooky3
(36,091 posts)That were selected by a 20 something, such as what was the name of your fourth grade teacher? I cant even remember the name of my boss that I had a few years ago, let alone someone I knew a half century ago.
lynintenn
(743 posts)msongs
(70,119 posts)I lent a TV to someone once and she took the knob off so her kids wouldn't change the channels and then lost it. But, I could still change the channels and when we hooked it up to cable we just used the remote.
We used a pair of needle-nosed vice grips.
patphil
(6,910 posts)My friends would come over and watch Howdy Doody at my house because we had a TV and they didn't. It was a small, round screen; maybe 15 inches or so. Buffalo Bob was the guy who ran the show.
I also remember watching Dave Garroway on the Today show before going off to school in the morning. That show would scroll through a list of cities all over the nation, showing what their weather would be, while playing a whistled version of "Sentimential Journey".
I also remember Andy Devine on the Buster Brown Show, the Milton Berle show, and Paul Winchell and Jerry Mahoney.
So much more of early TV that sometimes bubbles up in my memories.
yorkster
(2,366 posts)Doodley
(10,270 posts)I remember the screen would turn to a glowing dot when we turned it off.
Skittles
(158,567 posts)didn't TVs in England need a license too?
Doodley
(10,270 posts)Skittles
(158,567 posts)that spooky music always gets to me
HighFired49
(382 posts)There was only one channel in English, and the other 2 were in Japanese. The funniest thing I remember was watching the Lone Ranger in Japanese, especially when Tonto was speaking Japanese and in a much higher register than the original was in English. Suddenly, the old western became a comedy.
Doodley
(10,270 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,546 posts)was Bruce Springsteen who once sang "57 Channels and Nothing on."
Now it's like 500 and I still can't find much worth watching.
crimycarny
(1,604 posts)No 24x7 broadcasts which I think was a good thing. You had to "unplug", now we're in a world of constant stimulation. Hard to unplug.
I remember gathering around the TV to watch the latest episode of "Star Trek". I think it aired on Friday nights.
yonder
(10,002 posts)I have left the surly bonds of Earth,
And danced the skies on lacquer-silvered wings,
Sunward I climb, and joined the ???
Thats all I remember other than the clip of a pilot flying through the clouds in an F-104 fighter (I think)
Those were the days, all on a small-screened, b&w, Sears Silverstone console TV.
By John Gillespie Magee Jr.
Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
of sun-split clouds,and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed ofwheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air ....
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark nor ever eagle flew
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.
This poem is in the public domain.
Credit: Magee, John Gillespie. "Letter to Parents," September 3, 1941. John Magee Papers, Library of Congress, Washington, D.C. Manuscript.
yonder
(10,002 posts)I hadn't thought of that in many years. Brings back all sorts of memories.
Arne
(3,580 posts)ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)yonder
(10,002 posts)The music is pretty dated and brings the rest of the production down, especially the words, IMO. But it sure brings back memories of a different time.
And just like some 60 years ago, watched it, now bedtime.
LNM
(1,128 posts)While Mom watched for a good picture on the tv. When she saw it shed yell at me to tell Dad to stop, Id yell at my brother to tell Dad and hed holler out the window for Dad to stop. It seemed to happen a lot.
Freddie
(9,686 posts)That enabled you to move the antenna on the roof from inside the house. Where we lived (40 miles north of Philly) rabbit ears did not work and you needed a roof antenna to get a picture. If you turned the antenna a certain direction you could get the New York channels (fuzzy but watchable) and all the wonderful stuff they showed. Especially Soupy Sales on Ch. 5.
LNM
(1,128 posts)Awesome! We just had a lot of screaming.
yorkster
(2,366 posts)I kept cracking up, could barely see through the laugh tears. This was hysterically funny, yet strangely true to life.
😁
erronis
(16,785 posts)and really didn't watch it in the last 30+ years.
I get way too much screen time already. And I get to do the programming.
Rhiannon12866
(221,385 posts)The mountain blocked the signals. So, for us, it was what was on TV - or not. BTW, it was the NBC affiliate, so my parents watched The HuntleyBrinkley Report, no Walter Cronkite.
tom_kelly
(1,050 posts)Puppyjive
(581 posts)I complain all the time about the very same thing. I think ky tv is off, but hell no, it's back on again. I think our tv's are listening devices too. How in the hell does something you're talking about end up in your search engine?
JoseBalow
(5,007 posts)TBF
(34,177 posts)the last time we called because the Internet was out, they're like "ok, but you have to pay your bill first". We auto-pay our bill, it's up to date, and wasn't due again for about 3 weeks. We explained all this & they are in whatever call center, wherever, and they're like "ok, but we can't do anything until you pay it". So we hung up, decided maybe it was the router which hadn't been upgraded in awhile, and drove to the nearest Xfinity store. When we walked in with our router the guy asked "did the call center send you?" My husband is no fool - he replied "they sure did - we are supposed to trade this in for a new router". Problem solved.
And then we could talk about the singing. All the appliances sing now when they are done with their cycles etc.
aggiesal
(9,453 posts)We also had a motorized antenna on the roof with a directional box on top of the TV.
We could point the antenna towards the broadcast tower of the channel we wanted to watch.
deurbano
(2,955 posts)NNadir
(34,584 posts)Ptah
(33,484 posts)The Blue Flower
(5,632 posts)You forgot to mention having to get up and stop the picture from rolling every couple of minutes or so. If the knobs even worked.
LisaM
(28,563 posts)And suddenly in the third quarter, it bloops off and says "This app has stopped working. Please reboot".
What??? Force us into streaming services to watch sports and suddenly the game is pfffft and like the OP described, multiple steps to get it back. What if that happened at the end of a nailbiter of a game?
I am so fed up with the streaming model.
Collimator
(1,866 posts)I noticed that standing near the rabbit ears antenna seemed to make the picture come in clearer. Not understanding electricity and having some weird (frankly paranoid) ideas about sentience (no, I didn't know the word, it was just a general suspicion) within inanimate objects, I thought that the TV was just being difficult and wanted to keep me standing near it instead of comfortably seated on the couch.
Thus, I contrived to trick that tricky television set. I had a large doll -- about three feet tall-- and I stood it up next to the television, thinking that I could fool the TV. Needless to say, it did not work. I didn't learn much in the way of science that day, but the world did become a little less magical, though.
On the other hand, that small loss of innocence didn't turn out so bad. I did eventually learn a few things about science. And while I never went into a dedicated STEM field, I've continued to have an enthusiastic layperson's appreciation for the real -- and often revealing-- workings of the physical universe. Turns out, it actually IS kind of magical.
milestogo
(17,617 posts)sdfernando
(5,369 posts)There was a little dot of light right in the center of the screen.
That dot could light up a dark room for 5 or 10 minutes before it faded out.
ShazzieB
(18,560 posts)..and get smaller and smaller and smaller, until it was just a tiny white dot, and then *poof* the dot finally disappears?
I can remember staring at that dot in fascination when I was like, 5 or 6 years old.
Then again, maybe I was just a weird kid!
LakeArenal
(29,767 posts)We were first with the 12 black and (sort of greyish) white.
Then:
We got the big 20 console television. Still had turning knobs.
When color and remotes came round, he didnt work there anymore.
samnsara
(18,281 posts)..some times we stomped the floor
Martin68
(24,524 posts)change channels (there were only 3), and adjust the vertical shift when it got a little crazy.
Bev54
(11,912 posts)before the picture came on.
paleotn
(19,123 posts)"See what's on channel 5." CBS in our world. Click, click, click.
Now who remembers when you came home so late the test pattern was on, you were sure to be in big trouble.
twodogsbarking
(12,228 posts)Marcuse
(7,990 posts)GAJMac
(232 posts)I miss the "simple". Twist the dial to the channel you want. Turn the knob in your car to turn the radio on, and press the mechanical button (it clicks!) to go to the channel you want.
I guess I'm old now... I find trouble in the simple things. Self checkout at the grocery store (Why are they accusing me of stealing? Talkin to YOU, Kroger) when I'm slow to scan an item? I didn't train to be a cashier.
Cars that talk to me. Hell, bathroom SCALES that talk to me (Hey Buddy, one at a time!).
I don't need that crap in my life now. Maybe I'm a hopeless Boomer, but I also STAY confused as hell now. Give me simple.
Martin Eden
(13,439 posts)Before that, in the Chicago area we had channels 2, 5, 7, 9 (WGN), and 11 when PBS came along. Sometimes we had to adjust the rabbit ear antenna to get good reception.
COL Mustard
(6,866 posts)Our TV had a remote, even in the early 1960s
ME.
Clouds Passing
(2,148 posts)Watched Dark Shadows, Laugh-In, Flintstones, Jetsons, Ed Sullivan Show .I never got why the girls were screaming at Tom Jones and throwing their underwear at him
bikes and bunnies
(72 posts)I'm also old enough to remember that I never heard a single voice on TV explaining why belief in a god was unjustified because there's no evidence for it. All I heard was religious preachers, zealots, and scam artists praising the lord almighty and asking for cash.
Now, I can watch any variety of reason based shows on YouTube, such as TheAtheistExperience, via Roku.
Yeah, all the buttons are a pain, but the choices are exponentially more interesting.
Rick Beato, talking in depth about music. Shawn Wilsey, teaching me Geology 101.
Guitar tutorials, singing tutorials, and so on.
Old TV was watered down, insipid, and dumb by comparison.
LisaM
(28,563 posts)As far as live TV goes, streaming services are terrible and not set up for sports. See my post above where Peacock blooped out right in the middle of a game and told me the app stopped working.
You also can't switch back and forth between games instantly. In the heyday of the cable college football package, I did that a lot.
dgauss
(1,050 posts)AllaN01Bear
(23,001 posts)had to get up and change channel.
peacebuzzard
(5,264 posts)I no longer have a box for news or entertainment unless ii am in a hotel.
And in the past few years have turned on the hotel TV maybe 3 times. (I have been trying to control my emotional outbursts since after 9/11.)
lastlib
(24,844 posts)(I know, you said Spectrum---but I had similar experience with DirecTV.)
OldBaldy1701E
(6,270 posts)Prairie_Seagull
(3,721 posts)Still a fucking mystery. Remember the rotating dial/knob behind the channel selector. Mind boggling to someone of my tender years.
debm55
(35,323 posts)hunter
(38,866 posts)When my wife and I had Comcast, back in the 57 Channels (and Nothin' On) analog era, we had one of those newfangled television sets that didn't need a cable box. You attached the television to the cable and it automatically found all the channels of your cable plan. Then you could go through them and delete all those you were never going to watch. But you still had to pay for them.
We haven't had cable television for more than twenty years.
Now we just watch DVDs and Netflix. Our television isn't set up to do anything else. Sometimes we'll subscribe to one or two additional no-advertising streaming services, not consistently.
When I was a kid, and whenever our family happened to have a working television set, we were lucky to get five channels.
It doesn't sound like I've missed anything.
Angleae
(4,638 posts)Niagara
(9,463 posts)This looks close to what I recall. I remember it sat on a swivel wood stand that had a chrome center.
I remember once it was winter and I was putting on my snow pants to go outside. I was standing in front of this TV and I flipped the suspender down to slide the material through a metal strap, while I was doing this the TV channel changed.
I mentioned this event to my mom that the TV channel changed while I was flipping this over here and sliding this over here. My mom thought that the metal part in my snow pants had somehow changed the TV channel. It was a one time thing and I could never get that to happen again after that.
Some years later we upgraded to a much larger wooden console TV.
ProfessorGAC
(69,715 posts)It was a fun read. Way more fun that what you experienced!
The next time I go to the dispensary, I'm going to the Comcast store & demand a one time reduction for poor service quality.
At the very high price we pay, waiting 6 seconds for a channel to change, or getting the "Having trouble accessing this feature; try later" message, is not acceptable.
We definitely aren't getting what we're paying for.
Iggo
(48,233 posts)I can still hear it lol.
Figarosmom
(2,416 posts)I couldn't wait to get one
VGNonly
(7,707 posts)The half was channel 4 from Detroit if the weather was right. 13 NBC, 11 was CBS, 24 was that new-fangled ABC.
Watched all B&W until 68, Dad didn't want to spoil us.