Pronunciation

[LakeArenal]

I notice a friend and I pronounce words differently.

Warm—- me War with an m at the end
She. Arm with a W in front.

Lawyer me. Loyer
She LAWyer

How about you?

[zbird]

1. I'm with you.

Also, water is pronounced "warter". Born and raised southeast Pennsylvania. 😆

[rsdsharp]

2. My daughter had a different take on "lawyer."

As finals approached in my first semester in law school, I was feeling the pressure. We were broke, and I was stressing that I would bomb in the tests.

My ten-year-old daughter came and asked what classes I was taking. I wondered why she was asking, but told her. She retreated to her room, and came back several minutes later with a “report card” she had made me. Every course was followed by: A+ Ready to be a Lawer.

3 1/2 years later I passed the bar, and did become a “lawer.”

[LakeArenal]

4. Congrats. I may need a good one ! Ha

[IcyPeas]

10. Your daughter has me wondering now... why is there a "y" in lawyer?

🤔

[rsdsharp]

12. Apparently, so it's not pronounced "law-er."

[niyad]

21. Congratulations on your 10,000 post milestone.

[rsdsharp]

23. Thank you. It took me a loooong time.

[ProfessorGAC]

3. Interesting

My wife's college roommate used to say "warsh" when we said "wahsh".
Knew a British chemist who pronounced methyl "ME-thyl" while everyone else I knew, including other British chemists, pronounced it "Meh-thyl".
I've noticed from time to time over the years.
Particularly common in people who group I'm vastly different regions.
In fact, Crosby, Stills & Nash used to sit down with the lyrics & agree ahead of time how each word would be pronounced. With one guy from SoCal, another from the south & a British guy, they knew they WEREN'T going to pronounce words the same. So, they came to prior agreement on how to pronounce the words.

[LakeArenal]

5. That's interesting. I think most times English singers found American.

[ProfessorGAC]

8. Mostly True

As a Mott fan, I can think of one guy who doesn't sound at all American.
In the case of CSN, Graham would have to decide which American to sound like! Stills & Crosby aren't much alike in their diction.
In our last band, which was very serious about harmonies, we really didn't have this problem. Everybody was normal and raised in the same 25 mile radius. So, we never had to do what CSN did, but I never forgot that lesson.

[hlthe2b]

6. Even those who grew up in the same state can pronounce things differently--Midwest often..

Half of Missouri says Miz-zur-ee and the other says Miz-zur-uh

About half of Midwesterners add the before-referenced "R" in "wash" to make it "warsh" and "Warshington."

My parents were a "mixed marriage" on that score...LOL

[LakeArenal]

7. Oh I'm sure my staunch Republican parents would have the "right" pronunciations.

[Phentex]

9. warm the way you do, lawyer like she does

I also say Floorida not Flarida

Water like wotter

Bury like bairy not burry

Strawberry like strawbairy not strawburry

[LakeArenal]

14. I say Florida and the rest except I do say straw berry. Like Merry Christmas.

I don’t say Mary Christmas.

A many people say Wesconson
And El inois. I say ill in ois
And of course, wis CON sin the con for me like con vict. Not Wis Can son with that nasal thing.

[True Dough]

11. I'm on board with you, LakeArenal

Is it Air-e-NAL?

or AREEN-al?

Or some other variation?

[LakeArenal]

13. Ah. wren. all. Accent on The Ah.

The eeen sound would actually be an i in español
Ar in al would be your A reee nal.

spellcheck is having a fit.

[True Dough]

15. Good to know.

Thanks.

[LudwigPastorius]

16. I've been through this with a friend before.

I pronounce "jaguar" as jag-wahr.

He says jag-wire.

Somehow we've managed to avoid any unpleasant arguments over this for the past 40 years.

[LakeArenal]

19. Haha. We can find things to argue about.

I wish there was more to agree on

[niyad]

24. jag you are

[LudwigPastorius]

25. I'll bet you say al-yew-MIN-ee-um too.

[niyad]

28. tin foil. lah-bore-ah-tore-ee.

[hay rick]

17. My Jersey with midwestern parents pronunciations...

Warm- Wore with an m at the end.
Lawyer- also Loyer.

[AllaN01Bear]

18. was going to find a batclimb scene from batman and robin 1960 where they discuss dipthongs . cant find it.

[LakeArenal]

20. Dipthongs. Sounds a bit an adult movie star.

Harry Dipthong

Rod Dipthong.

[niyad]

22. Attorney

[Quakerfriend]

26. I'm with you, LakeArenal! I am shocked at the

recent trend re: people using the wrong tense of verbs.

I am noticing this constantly!

Ex: “ There’s lots of people……”
“ I could have went….”

[LakeArenal]

27. I hate the dangling participles:

Where you at?
I also go crazy because people including tv anchors can not tell the difference between number or amount.
“ the amount of people “

Or less / fewer. “Less people “

Now wait for the grammar Nazis to complain. Even though I am not pointing to individuals.

[niyad]

29. grrrrrrr. You mentioned three of my pet peeves! Another is "people that",

instead of "people who", especially when used by people who, one presumes, are supposed to be able to speak properly, and being paid to do so.

Oh, and "would of", "could of", and on, and on. . .

We won't even discuss the errors that I find in novels! Do publishing houses no longer employ proofreaders? Painful does not begin to cover it!

[LakeArenal]

31. Proofreaders seem to miss a lot.

[malthaussen]

46. Just as shocking is history.

One might expect quasi-scholarly texts to be grammatically correct, but not recently. Although I suppose many of the errors are simply colloquialisms that have become so common they appear to be correct. This may be true of novels also.

I remember reading one novel that I found mystifying. Around about page 2, the author referenced a "chaise longue," and I was secretly congratulating her for knowing how to spell it. But then around page 150, it was a "chaise lounge," and this left me wondering if they changed proofreaders in mid stream or something.

If you were into fantasy role-playing games or strategy games, you would be tearing your hair out at the constant mistaking of "rouge" for "rogue," and the use of "siege" as a verb ("we sieged the castle&quot instead of "besiege."

And don't get me started on "reign" and "rein."

-- Mal

[3catwoman3]

38. No complaints from me.

One of the grocery stores in our town actually has a lane for "10 items or fewer." My husband and I were pleasantly shocked.

When I complimented the checkout clerk about the proper grammar, she looked at me like, "Huh?"

There is a pediatric dental practice near us that is named "Kid's Dental." I have resisted the temptation to stop in and snidely ask if they have only one patient. I suspect no one would get it.

[niyad]

43. I suspect that you are correct.

[malthaussen]

45. One that has consistently driven me crazy is in baseball...

... announcers have always persisted in saying "two for four" when trying to convey that a player has had two hits in four trips to the plate. It should be either "four for two" (the attempts preceding the successes), or "two in four" (the successes as a subset of the attempts). Grammatically, "two for four" makes no sense, unless we're talking about division.

-- Mal

[niyad]

30. One of my all-time, painful, favourites is "me and him went".

[LakeArenal]

32. I laughed out loud.

Also if one dares to point out someone’s poor grammar, then one becomes the target.

[niyad]

33. One of my early interactions was with an individual who was trying to

get me to explain about a movie's less-family-friendly bits, which I refused to do. I did explain that the lead character was a victim of demonic possession. He repeated the word "demonic" several times, very much stumbling over it, deliberately, and then said, "is that like the devil and s***?", snickering. Why he thought it was funny I had no idea. By this point, I was done with his bs, and said, as patiently as I could, that "demonic" did indeed refer to the devil. He said, "well, I never went to college to learn that word." Finally fed up, I said, "Neither did I. I learned it in second grade catechism." End of discussion, end of him trying to bait me.

[LakeArenal]

34. Good one.

Offence doesn’t make a good defense but it happens all the time.

[niyad]

35. I have zero patience with people trying to bait me, and I let them know it.

[3catwoman3]

37. In my mid-twenties, I briefly dated a guy who turned out not to be particularly bright.

I was trying hard not to be an intellectual snob, but the more time I spent with him, the more ambivalent I became about any long term potential with him. When he complained that, "You've got to stop using them big words," and the big word in question was "ambivalent," suddenly I no longer was.

[LakeArenal]

41. Wow. Reverse elitism.

[niyad]

44. I dated a guy, briefly, who told me that one of my problems was that I used

the language too well. It took me a minute to stop laughing.

[3catwoman3]

36. Gaaaah - this one makes me want to scream.

And what is so puzzling about it is that no one ever gets this wrong in the singular. I have NEVER heard anyone say, "Me went," or "Him/her went."

Related - between him and I. No one ever says "Between we."

This shouldn't be so hard.

I suspect I must have been an English teacher of editor/proof reader in a previous life.

[LakeArenal]

39. Me too.

Edit : like nails on my past life chalkboard.

[3catwoman3]

40. My dad grew up in Chicago and said "warter," warsh," and...

..."window seel." He also said "viadock" instead of viaduct, and Toyota sounded like "toy auto."

When I was 8, my family settled in Rochester NY after several moves. He pronounced that "Rockchester."

My mom was also a Midwesterner - Minnesota. One tends to have pronunciations similar to one's parents, and our family pronounced "on" as one would the first 4 letters in awning. My new friends in Rochester laughed at my pronunciation of that word because they all said "ahn," like when the doc or nurse practitioner looking in your throat says, "Say AH."

Recently on the radio, I heard one of the most egregious mispronunciations ever. A female commentator was talking about someone in a position of honor, and pronounced emeritus as emmer-EYE-tus. I have NEVER heard anyone else say it that way.

[LakeArenal]

42. Yes tv anchors shouldn't have bad grammar.

There was a chryon once that said:
Obama’s spend days in Hawaii.