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skypilot

(8,940 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 07:43 PM Nov 12

WordleBot is stupid.

I don't usually pay much attention to it but today I checked it to see its "critique" of my word picks. For my first word I got only the last letter. For my second word I got all of the right letters except the first one and all in the right place. I got the correct word on the third try. According to WordleBot, my first guess, with only one correct letter, was a good one but my second guess, with four correct letters all in the right spot, wasn't "efficient". The "more efficient" word that WordleBot suggested had only ONE of the letters that was in todays word and not even in the right spot. I don't get how that thing thinks.

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WordleBot is stupid. (Original Post) skypilot Nov 12 OP
I like when it tells you "That was a good guess but XXX would be better" AZSkiffyGeek Nov 12 #1
OMG skypilot Nov 12 #2
The Wordlebot algorithm seems to consider "skill" and "luck" dgauss Nov 12 #3
Damn, now I'm thinking about this more. dgauss Nov 12 #4
73 out of 99 for luck... skypilot Nov 12 #5
If your second word got a skill score of 89, that was really good. dgauss Nov 12 #7
What confounds me more... skypilot Nov 12 #8
Screw what the bot says WestMichRad Nov 12 #6
Check out... skypilot Nov 12 #9
Check out... skypilot Nov 12 #10
I can't see WordleBot anymore since I cancelled my NYT subscription JoseBalow Nov 12 #11

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,632 posts)
1. I like when it tells you "That was a good guess but XXX would be better"
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 07:45 PM
Nov 12

And XXX is the correct answer.
No shit, Sherlock.

dgauss

(1,105 posts)
3. The Wordlebot algorithm seems to consider "skill" and "luck"
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:10 PM
Nov 12

I play that and often find the scores a little confounding. I also have some negative feelings about algorithms in general at this point but that is a different issue...

So I'm curious what your "luck" score was. The Wordlebot algorithm seems to demote skill if it considers luck was involved but doesn't always make much sense to me either. Not the most important issue facing us right now but this is the lounge after all

dgauss

(1,105 posts)
4. Damn, now I'm thinking about this more.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:44 PM
Nov 12

Ok, let's say you pick a word with your first pick and there are still 100 possibilities.

For your second pick, you could come up with a word that leaves the fewest remaining possibilities. Maybe you come up with the perfect word and after that there are only 5 other possibilities. All other second guesses (other then the actual answer) would still leave more than 5 possibilities. That would be considered skill, or efficiency, you've narrowed it down as much as possible.

But, given what the actual answer is, maybe you don't hit that most efficient answer, and you just happen to hit the second word that leaves only one possibility, that should be considered luck.

That's happened a few times when I've played. I understand that wasn't skill but luck, and yet I see a luck score of something in the 60's or 70's.

Doesn't make sense. If not skill, at least give me credit for luck.

dgauss

(1,105 posts)
7. If your second word got a skill score of 89, that was really good.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 09:18 PM
Nov 12

Probably narrowed it down to about 4 words, so your luck on try three was that you hit 1 out of 4 possibilities. You would think luck would then be 75 but maybe there is some factoring in of the first and second guess?

In any case, fun game and a good diversion. People that like this might want to give this a try, also fun.

https://www.britannica.com/games/octordle/

skypilot

(8,940 posts)
8. What confounds me more...
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 09:37 PM
Nov 12

...than the whole skill vs. luck thing is how the bot thinks that the word it suggested is more efficient than the one I played before I got the answer on the third try. I just don't see it.

Anyway...you should also check out hello wordl.net. You can play as often as you like and you can increase the length of the words up to 11 letters.

WestMichRad

(1,855 posts)
6. Screw what the bot says
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 09:12 PM
Nov 12

I’m actually enjoying the 6-letter version, Word Hurdle, more than Wordle. Plus you can play it 2 times a day, for free.
https://wordhurdle.co/
My average score for a full week of Word Hurdle games hovers around 4.0, for what that’s worth.

skypilot

(8,940 posts)
9. Check out...
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 09:42 PM
Nov 12

...hellowordl.net. You can play as often as you like and try to guess words with up to 11 letters.

skypilot

(8,940 posts)
10. Check out...
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 09:45 PM
Nov 12

...hellowordl.net. You can play as often as you like and try to guess words with up to 11 letters.

JoseBalow

(5,490 posts)
11. I can't see WordleBot anymore since I cancelled my NYT subscription
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 10:48 PM
Nov 12

But when I did used to check it, I always found it's analysis lacking.

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