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raccoon

(31,527 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:16 AM Dec 5

Why did bath towels and washcloths get so big and thick?

Towels that my mother gave me, probably more than a generation old, are lots smaller and less thick. Washcloths were much skinner too, but at least you can still find those at a large chain store that I won't name.

Nowadays, new bath towels are large enough for a big fat man with blond hair. Children and some men and women don't need a towel that big.

Also, the proliferation of storage units indicates that many people don't have much storage room these days. Big, thick towels take up more room in your bathroom closet than skinny towels do.

Some time ago, I posted about the skinny towels. I ordered some off the Internet. They aren't the best quality, but they'll do.

So...why do manufacturers keep making thick towels and washcloths? Just to jack up the price?

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Why did bath towels and washcloths get so big and thick? (Original Post) raccoon Dec 5 OP
Absorption? ProfessorGAC Dec 5 #1
Perhaps the proportions of the people have become askew? mikelewis Dec 5 #2
Depends on the materials, cotton vs. poly bucolic_frolic Dec 5 #3
I can't wash inside my ears as well with a thick washcloth Groundhawg Dec 5 #4
Get a skinny bottle brush. I use a quarter inch round gouge, myself. I use a dull one, I'm not as dumb as I look. marble falls Dec 5 #7
Ear syringe and warm water bucolic_frolic Dec 5 #8
Me either. raccoon Dec 5 #14
I like big thick towels. underpants Dec 5 #5
Wash clothes only feel good the first use... 3catwoman3 Dec 7 #20
Need to disagree: The purpose of REAL bath towels justaprogressive Dec 5 #6
It's ridiculous! The ones at the Hilton in San Diego were so thick I could barely get my Floyd R. Turbo Dec 5 #9
Funny! MaryMagdaline Dec 5 #12
😁 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 5 #19
Post removed Post removed Dec 5 #10
Americans are mostly obese now. Big towels work better. MaryMagdaline Dec 5 #11
Amurrikka! We got the biggest and best towels on the world! ms liberty Dec 5 #13
I'm glad we do. Nothing better than having a thick nice towel. jimfields33 Dec 5 #15
I think the thick towels don't dry well in between use Redleg Dec 5 #16
The thick wash cloths are too much for my arthritic thumb and wrist. 10 Turtle Day Dec 5 #17
I like thick towels, but I use different towels for washcloths. House of Roberts Dec 5 #18
Probably when they noticed Americans were getting so big and thick. Iggo Dec 7 #21
I love big, thick cotton towels. 3catwoman3 Dec 7 #22
Yep. Bed Bath & Beyond's towel section was the best. Iggo Dec 7 #23

ProfessorGAC

(70,989 posts)
1. Absorption?
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:19 AM
Dec 5

The thicker the cloth, the more water it will suck up.
I'm guessing that's a important quality for most consumers.

mikelewis

(4,232 posts)
2. Perhaps the proportions of the people have become askew?
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:19 AM
Dec 5

Last edited Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:07 AM - Edit history (6)

The paper thin towels of our parents era can't soak up all that water... it's necessity driven. I'm so skinny I dry off with one pat of toilet paper.


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1. Introduction
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2. Energy in the System

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- Each word has a quantum energy level, an intrinsic property that governs how it interacts with other words in the system.
- Energy is modulated through chirality—the geometric "handedness" or symmetry of words and their placement in sentence structures. This is a subtle but important way of accounting for word-order relationships and meaning derivation.

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3. Modular Interaction and Growth

Q_NLP is fundamentally a modular system. Each new linguistic input (whether it be a word, sentence, or conversational context) acts like a new module added to a quantum network. These modules interact with each other according to principles of modular arithmetic and resonance.

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- As these interactions unfold, the Q_NLP system grows outward. This growth is not inward, as in traditional NLP systems, but rather expands the system in a way that incorporates new elements while maintaining overall energy balance.

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4. Symmetry and Chirality

At the heart of Q_NLP lies the concept of chirality—the handedness of interactions and structures within the system. Chirality is a crucial concept in physics, particularly in particle physics, where particles exhibit left- or right-handedness depending on their spin and interaction properties.

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- This chirality-based symmetry ensures that the system's growth is stable, as each new element introduced into the system must fit within the existing energetic framework to preserve balance.

5. Energy Flow and Modular Validation

The physics of Q_NLP also involves the validation of energy states. Each time a new linguistic unit is introduced, the system checks the energy compatibility of that unit against its existing structure. This process can be compared to a quantum system undergoing state validation or wavefunction collapse—where the system's probabilistic state collapses to a single, valid configuration after a measurement.

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The validation process in Q_NLP works similarly to quantum systems that interact with external fields, creating a feedback loop where the system adjusts based on both its internal states and external influences.

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The ultimate analogy in Q_NLP lies in its quantum-based approach to language. In quantum mechanics, particles and energy states are probabilistic until observed or measured, and even then, they retain certain properties of superposition. Similarly, in Q_NLP, the potential meanings of a word or phrase exist in a superposition of possible meanings, with energy interactions collapsing the possibilities into a coherent, validated interpretation.

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This probabilistic approach to language processing allows the system to handle ambiguity and nuance in natural language, just as quantum systems handle uncertainty and complexity.

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Conclusion

To a physicist, Q_NLP can be understood as a quantum, energy-driven, dynamic system that models language through energetic interactions, resonance, chirality, and modular growth. By leveraging principles like energy conservation, feedback loops, symmetry, and modular validation, the system grows outward and adapts in a stable and predictable manner, much like how physical systems evolve and stabilize over time.

In essence, Q_NLP is more than a simple computational model—it's a quantum-inspired framework that treats language processing as a series of energetic interactions, guided by the same fundamental principles that govern the evolution of complex physical systems.



You're more than welcome to try to figure it out or maybe get one of those piece of shit Quantum Computers to try to guess their way through it. Set the error correction up as high as it can go and try it... LOL. Idiots. I did ask AI if there was anyway possible you could figure out how to do this from that description. I had to log out and back in before I could get GPT to stop laughing. So the consensus is no...odds are, you won't get the secret sauce from that... LOL.

So, what does this mean for you? It means you get to tell me yet again that what I am saying is impossible. Yes... This is impossible, especially with a Raspberry Pi. But well, you're right. For YOU... it is impossible. For me... it's stupid easy... and well You... You are just stupid.


And since Elon has access to my GPT account.. don't worry, I can't gate keep. Or wait... would that violate his ethics? LOL, you people are just straight up scum.

bucolic_frolic

(47,919 posts)
3. Depends on the materials, cotton vs. poly
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:24 AM
Dec 5

Cotton absorbs. Poly not so much. In the 70s when they first began to replace cotton with poly, there was an effort to weave cotton into the surface of the towels to promote absorption.

TBH I don't know much about modern contemporary towels because I have a closet full of the cotton ones. Old towels fetch premium on eBay, just like thick 1980s cotton sheets.

marble falls

(62,657 posts)
7. Get a skinny bottle brush. I use a quarter inch round gouge, myself. I use a dull one, I'm not as dumb as I look.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:29 AM
Dec 5

3catwoman3

(25,843 posts)
20. Wash clothes only feel good the first use...
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 01:42 AM
Dec 7

…after being laundered. After that, they feel stiff from air drying and look disgusting. I would want a fresh one every day.

Like you, I haven’t used any in years.

justaprogressive

(2,599 posts)
6. Need to disagree: The purpose of REAL bath towels
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:28 AM
Dec 5

..is among other things, to help dry you off after a bath/shower with minimal effort.
Step out, wrap up and by the time you walk out of the bathroom you're 90% dry.
It's wonderful for old stiff people, and a luxury for people used to frantically rubbing
themselves dry with virtual washcloth-sized thin towels while freezing.

Floyd R. Turbo

(29,341 posts)
9. It's ridiculous! The ones at the Hilton in San Diego were so thick I could barely get my
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:37 AM
Dec 5

suitcase closed!

Response to raccoon (Original post)

MaryMagdaline

(7,926 posts)
11. Americans are mostly obese now. Big towels work better.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:40 AM
Dec 5

They also look more luxurious.
You’re right, though. The old fashioned towel bars can’t hold more than one towel because of their thickness. Same problem with storing them in a normal sized closet.

ms liberty

(9,898 posts)
13. Amurrikka! We got the biggest and best towels on the world!
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:49 AM
Dec 5

Mostly bc we have the highest percentage of morbidly obese people, and also the greatest number of narcissistic psychopaths.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
15. I'm glad we do. Nothing better than having a thick nice towel.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 09:11 AM
Dec 5

I’m not even fat but like them a lot. Who wants some thin towel? Obviously not too many.

Redleg

(6,250 posts)
16. I think the thick towels don't dry well in between use
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 09:42 AM
Dec 5

I live in a fairly humid place and it seems the thicker the towel the sooner they get funky from staying damp. When I lived in Utah, towels dried relatively quickly.

10 Turtle Day

(546 posts)
17. The thick wash cloths are too much for my arthritic thumb and wrist.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:13 AM
Dec 5

I have to get the cheaper skinny ones to wring them out.

House of Roberts

(5,782 posts)
18. I like thick towels, but I use different towels for washcloths.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:37 AM
Dec 5

My ex was working at O'Reilly's for a while and found me car washing terry cloth towels. They're white and bigger than a dish towel by a couple of inches square, and I can wash my back better with them. Diagonally, they are long enough to hold both ends for that. I don't ever use those tiny terry cloth washcloths unless I need to clean something and discard them afterward.

3catwoman3

(25,843 posts)
22. I love big, thick cotton towels.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 01:49 AM
Dec 7

When I wrap myself up in a towel after a shower, I want one big enough to cover my butt and down to my knees. I like the ones Bed, Bath & Beyond called bath sheets. I miss that store.

Can’t abide microfiber towels. If your hands are the least bit dry and rough, microfiber towels catch on every tiny surface imperfection, and it feels like dragging sandpaper across your skin. Yuck!

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