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NightWatcher

(39,360 posts)
Sat May 20, 2017, 02:01 PM May 2017

There's two boxes in front of you. One with $1 million. The other a 50/50 chance at $100 million

Oh, the boxes are weighed down and locked so you can't grab them both and run.

Which would you choose?





(And be sure to answer honestly, else it will throw off the algorithms I'm writing to steal your banking info).


Kidding, but my friend says it's what they do to us with all those stupid quizzes online.


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Take the given $1 million
27 (82%)
Take the 50% chance at $100 million
6 (18%)
Not answering because of that "algorithm" thing you mentioned.
0 (0%)
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There's two boxes in front of you. One with $1 million. The other a 50/50 chance at $100 million (Original Post) NightWatcher May 2017 OP
Being a person living penny to penny I of course choose kacekwl May 2017 #1
With my health I would choose the million, it would go a long way to help my medical situation. redstatebluegirl May 2017 #2
so whats the other 50% made up of? samnsara May 2017 #3
One box is either empty or has 100 million, while the other has a guaranteed $1 million NightWatcher May 2017 #6
$1,000,000... bird in the hand discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2017 #4
I'm not greedy Phoenix61 May 2017 #5
I sell my opportunity to choose to a multimillionaire for $20 million. Salviati May 2017 #7
Oooh good thinking Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #11
That's the right answer FBaggins May 2017 #27
I would think $20 million is about right Volstagg May 2017 #35
That's really a question of risk appetite FBaggins May 2017 #36
I'd hand the whole package over to the the American Cancer Society DFW May 2017 #8
I would take the $1 million. I sometimes worry about having Tanuki May 2017 #9
A million dollars is more than enough to be comfortable for life. femmedem May 2017 #10
Mom , me & the cats would be very comfortable on 1 million. nt irisblue May 2017 #12
50/50 chance at 100 million or nothing? sakabatou May 2017 #13
Could you live with yourself if you took the chance on the $100M exboyfil May 2017 #14
The real question is: Could you live having given up a sure million and won nothing? WinkyDink May 2017 #16
So what would be your number exboyfil May 2017 #17
I used to watch "Deal or No Deal" with my mother, always marvellng at the greed on display! People WinkyDink May 2017 #21
Keep in mind that when people are given "free" money NobodyHere May 2017 #23
The sure thing. WinkyDink May 2017 #15
No contest-- $1 million is way more than enough ailsagirl May 2017 #18
Yeah, I'm 60 and would live quite comfortably on $1M TexasBushwhacker May 2017 #19
Yep!! ailsagirl May 2017 #20
One million is quite sufficient to my requirements. malthaussen May 2017 #22
If I were a Republican, I'd take the 50/50 chance, and if I came up empty... Yavin4 May 2017 #24
I would take the 50/50 chance. dawg May 2017 #25
Good answer. For me it'd be a tough choice NightWatcher May 2017 #26
I live on less then $20,000 a year now. Kaleva May 2017 #29
My situation is a little weird. I have four other adults ... dawg May 2017 #31
Yes, everone has a diiferant situation. Kaleva May 2017 #32
You could get $30,000/year from 30 yr Treasuries A HERETIC I AM May 2017 #33
I would take the $1 million DuckBurp May 2017 #28
I'm 70 and in poor health left-of-center2012 May 2017 #30
I would take the 50/50 chance at $100 million. IrishEyes May 2017 #34
I don't need a hundred mil. And I don't need nothin'. Iggo May 2017 #37
Did I miss my chance for the ourang-outan head in the box? Orrex May 2017 #38
Is there tax on it? n/t MosheFeingold May 2017 #39
Not even close Awsi Dooger May 2017 #40

kacekwl

(7,650 posts)
1. Being a person living penny to penny I of course choose
Sat May 20, 2017, 02:08 PM
May 2017

1 million now because then I could breath again. If I had a million I might choose the other option. Greed might take over.

NightWatcher

(39,360 posts)
6. One box is either empty or has 100 million, while the other has a guaranteed $1 million
Sat May 20, 2017, 02:16 PM
May 2017

Sorry if my phrasing is off.

Would you take a guaranteed million or take the shot at 100 million?

Phoenix61

(17,725 posts)
5. I'm not greedy
Sat May 20, 2017, 02:14 PM
May 2017

I'd take the million, pay off the house and the car and do some much longed for traveling.

Salviati

(6,038 posts)
7. I sell my opportunity to choose to a multimillionaire for $20 million.
Sat May 20, 2017, 02:22 PM
May 2017

If I had to choose, it would definitely be the 1 million. That's enough to change your life, and though it may not be the "economicly rational" decision, there is a value in certainty.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,793 posts)
11. Oooh good thinking
Sat May 20, 2017, 02:35 PM
May 2017

You might get some hedge fund to pay a couple million

Put me down for bird in the hand

 

Volstagg

(233 posts)
35. I would think $20 million is about right
Tue May 23, 2017, 11:36 AM
May 2017

Given the odds are 50/50 (which across the sample I am going to give you is not really guaranteed to be 50/50), if they bought four options, they are still not guaranteed a hit on the $100 million, but it's pretty damn likely. Totally likely that buying two options results in both being nothing.

FBaggins

(27,803 posts)
36. That's really a question of risk appetite
Tue May 23, 2017, 12:43 PM
May 2017

The true value of the chest is $50 million. That is... if you have billions of dollars to spend and could make the choice thousands of times... you would average $50 million per attempt.

Obviously, the price has to be below that since you only get a single attempt (you can't buy two options). The appropriate price depends a great deal on the purchaser's net worth and appetite for risk. $40 million for an asset that will either be worth nothing or $100M implies an immediate 25% average return, but also a large risk to capital. Whether that's too large a risk or a no-brainer decision depends on how big a deal the $40M price tag is for you. As you can see on the rest of the thread... for anyone who feels that a million dollars is life-changing... they aren't willing to take the risk.

But say it was instead a "special" at the roulette table today. There were no longer any green spaces and odd/even or red/black were true 50-50 propositions. To make things better... the casino is selling $5 chips for $4. If you barely had money for lunch, you might not play... but if you had $1,000 in your pocket that was "mad money"... you would play at that table all day long.

So it's a question of who is in the market. If there's a billionaire who doesn't mind taking risks... $40 million is probably low.

DFW

(56,896 posts)
8. I'd hand the whole package over to the the American Cancer Society
Sat May 20, 2017, 02:27 PM
May 2017

Let them figure it out.

Tanuki

(15,396 posts)
9. I would take the $1 million. I sometimes worry about having
Sat May 20, 2017, 02:28 PM
May 2017

enough money to live on when I retire someday, and the interest alone on $ 1 million would take away that worry.

femmedem

(8,455 posts)
10. A million dollars is more than enough to be comfortable for life.
Sat May 20, 2017, 02:30 PM
May 2017

I can't imagine what I would do with more, other than give it away.

Even with a million, there's a lot left over for philanthropy.

exboyfil

(18,037 posts)
14. Could you live with yourself if you took the chance on the $100M
Sat May 20, 2017, 04:00 PM
May 2017

and lost?

It would be fun to find what number if you kept the ratios the same.

For me $100K or chance for $10M/nothing. I would go for the $10M chance.


The term we are looking for is f___k you money. A million reaches that level for most.

Of course if you take the million, you will always have the mind worm telling you that you should have taken the chance.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
16. The real question is: Could you live having given up a sure million and won nothing?
Sat May 20, 2017, 04:04 PM
May 2017

exboyfil

(18,037 posts)
17. So what would be your number
Sat May 20, 2017, 04:08 PM
May 2017

Mine is $100K to go for $10M (50/50). I would probably go for that in Vegas (this presupposes you don't have a syndicate behind you - it is your money and your risk). I just would not tell my wife if I lost a large portion of our retirement.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
21. I used to watch "Deal or No Deal" with my mother, always marvellng at the greed on display! People
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:01 AM
May 2017

lost hundreds of thousands, because they wanted to risk going for more.

Now, that said, I am a gambler, but relatively small-time (Sands Casino is in my town).

So what would my "Must take" and my "Would risk" numbers be?

I don't know that I would risk $100K, and I'll tell you why:

I already did, and lost. Literally, I turned down almost $100K in a FL real estate offer, thinking it would go higher. And then it plummeted. Bigly.

So maybe half of your deal.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
23. Keep in mind that when people are given "free" money
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:55 PM
May 2017

they are more likely to gamble or even be generous with that money.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,735 posts)
19. Yeah, I'm 60 and would live quite comfortably on $1M
Sat May 20, 2017, 07:24 PM
May 2017

I probably wouldn't even have to dip into the principle much. I could leave it to my youngest brother.

malthaussen

(17,788 posts)
22. One million is quite sufficient to my requirements.
Sun May 21, 2017, 07:24 AM
May 2017

To those who see money as a tool and nothing more, the answer is easy.

-- Mal

Yavin4

(36,615 posts)
24. If I were a Republican, I'd take the 50/50 chance, and if I came up empty...
Sun May 21, 2017, 02:15 PM
May 2017

I'd blame African Americans and undocumented workers.

dawg

(10,775 posts)
25. I would take the 50/50 chance.
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:23 PM
May 2017

$1 million is a lot, but lots of people who have that much money nonetheless end up penniless. It would be hard to earn more than $20,000 a year in interest on that amount, and if you were to draw your principal down by $50,000 a year - in 20 years it would be gone.

On the other hand, $100 million would be a transformative amount - not just for me, but for most of the people who are close to me as well.

NightWatcher

(39,360 posts)
26. Good answer. For me it'd be a tough choice
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:26 PM
May 2017

The guarantee would be nice but 100 million could change an awful lot more.

dawg

(10,775 posts)
31. My situation is a little weird. I have four other adults ...
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:43 AM
May 2017

in two other households, who are all dependent on me to some extent. They all have medical or emotional conditions that limit their abilities to live up to their full potential, and there is no easy fix for most of their problems. Our health care system is a mess, and I spend more than $20,000 a year just providing for their health coverage, co-pays, and deductibles.

$1 million dollars would help me a lot, but I would still need to work. $100 million would change everything.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,632 posts)
33. You could get $30,000/year from 30 yr Treasuries
Mon May 22, 2017, 07:39 PM
May 2017

Before taxes.

A bit more tax free with a varied muni bond portfolio, but not much.

DuckBurp

(302 posts)
28. I would take the $1 million
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:39 PM
May 2017

However, take away some of the zeroes. Say, either take $1 thousand or a 50/50 chance at $100,000, then I would take my chance at the larger amount. I'm not sure exactly why.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
34. I would take the 50/50 chance at $100 million.
Tue May 23, 2017, 10:50 AM
May 2017

I have a job that pays decently. I've always been good with money so i can live comfortably on my salary. I'm also fairly young. I'm in good health and so are my parents and siblings. If I opened the box and it was empty, I wouldn't be worse off then before. If I opened it and it was $100 million then I would start a foundation to donate it all to different charities.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
40. Not even close
Fri May 26, 2017, 12:05 AM
May 2017

I'd have to resign as a gambler if I didn't take the 50/50 swing.

We actually used to pose questions like this all the time in Las Vegas sportsbooks. Actually they weren't like this. The gain on one side was minimal enough that you had to seriously think about it, and all the corresponding variables.

I'm not sure I know one person who would wimp out and take the one million. Well, maybe a family member. I have some who don't risk anything.

I do wish that I had a stock pick now that was as simple as Apple in the late '90s.

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