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Debunk 80% of the propaganda on "reasons we can't have Single Payer" with info from a single link! (Original Post) Baobab Feb 2016 OP
QUESTION: "Why should I pay for somebody else's health care?" Beartracks Feb 2016 #1
Also, they seem to want very badly to use healthcare as a way to trade jobs away, like money to buy Baobab Feb 2016 #2
#1 reason we can't have Single Payer? yallerdawg Feb 2016 #3
Actually, no one has even tried to make the case for universal coverage here. Curmudgeoness Feb 2016 #4
Ever heard of Michael Moore? yallerdawg Feb 2016 #5

Beartracks

(13,576 posts)
1. QUESTION: "Why should I pay for somebody else's health care?"
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:15 AM
Feb 2016

ANSWER: "Because it will cost you less to insure everybody than it would cost you just to insure yourself."

Voters are too often led to believe that single-payer = higher taxes = keeping less of your hard-earned dollars. But there's a lie of omission built into that "argument." Right off the bat, the savings in not having expensive premiums, copays, or un-negotiated drug prices will offset tax increases. So the formula really shakes out to be single-payer = big drop in insurance costs + smaller bump in taxes = keeping MORE of your hard-earned dollars. Plus, there's that feel-good Christian thing of taking care of other people at the same time!

P.S. Yeah, that article DOES have a long and boring sounding name. lol

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Baobab

(4,667 posts)
2. Also, they seem to want very badly to use healthcare as a way to trade jobs away, like money to buy
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:32 AM
Feb 2016

rights to open presences overseas..

Meaning foreign staffing firms get rights to staff contracts in the US with very low wage high skill workers. Who may be paid minimum wage or even less. Legally. Irreversibly.

To "cure" these manufactured health care and education "crises" they knew would happen on schedule.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. #1 reason we can't have Single Payer?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:12 AM
Feb 2016

The American voter is fecklessly stupid.

And there is no debunking that.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
4. Actually, no one has even tried to make the case for universal coverage here.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:18 PM
Feb 2016

The ordinary American voter has never heard the arguments or seen any real data on the benefits. That is because no one has tried to get us universal coverage.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
5. Ever heard of Michael Moore?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016

You think arguments and data mean anything to most Americans?

As Bill Maher says, "Most Americans believe in a talking snake!"

The stunning America I know:



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