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1. Anything to confuse the issues.

No lie is too great to try to pass off as fact.

[EdwardBernays]

2. Bwahahahaha

Well you know what they say... When you go far enough left you end up on the right.

[Scootaloo]

3. There are a lot of people who don't understand how political labeling works

They believe that being to the left of Republicans actually makes them "leftists" instead of center-right. Or that supporting some idea that socialists also support makes them socialists. Or - MY personal favorite - that the "far left" and "far right" are identical.

Political ignorance is not a new thing.

[socialist_n_TN]

9. Yep. And that is the consequence of the establishment political center......

moving so far to the right. It's also a consequence of the "lesser of two evils" argument in electoral politics. The leading candidates for the Dems and the Repubs at this time consist of a socially MODERATE (NOT liberal) neo-conservative against a proto-fascist opportunist. IOW, the LOTE argument has NOT succeeded in changing things, it's just moved the arguments further to the right. So now anybody that supports a few social democratic programs and believes in turning the Middle East into a playground for American energy interests, is a "left winger". Or even a "socialist". It's not true, but the labeling works to obscure the true positions that are involved in the terminology.

[obamanut2012]

4. That's my post, and I stand by it

LOL all you want. You just proved my point.

[Starry Messenger]

5. I'm sorry you feel that way.

It's true though.

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. Its garbage and makes as much sense as tits on a boar

Please tell me how Hillary is socialistic or far left?


You can't be serious.

[kjones]

7. That's not what the post says.

It says there are socialists that support her, which is true.

[Ichingcarpenter]

8. Socialist do not support her

that just insane.. Unless they are Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei

You have absolutely no proof of that on any that in any socialist website. Its garbage.

[socialist_n_TN]

10. I have seen CPUSA members support HRC as a FIRST choice.......

and I do fully expect the CPUSA to endorse her if she wins the nomination.

Of course I don't consider the CPUSA to be "socialist" either. They are, at BEST, a left-reformist organization.

[kjones]

11. Well, I knew there weren't a lot of socialistS, but didn't know there were so few you knew them all.

Oh god haha, I just minutes ago wrote a post about people equating
Hillary and Nazis, and then not ten minutes later run into you!
That's pretty funny

[yallerdawg]

12. When I answered Jackpine Radical's call to join this group...

and leave the viciousness and bile of DU behind, I was quite surprised at the end of discourse regarding Hillary's bona fides as a progressive liberal Democrat.

Our group - "Link Socialist ideas and suggestions for political change to a Progressive framework" - dismissed Hillary supporters without openness or argument, with the viciousness and bile many of us came here to escape.

We'll get it back soon, though.