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Rick Beato - The Real Reason Why Music Is Getting Worse (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 25 OP
As a fan of the Beatles and George Martin, SleeplessinSoCal Jun 25 #1
"The Beatles had minimal technology to work with, yet their music still inspires new fans today." drmeow Jun 25 #4
No way. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 26 #6
That's what I as thinking drmeow Jun 26 #7
I mostly agree with him Shermann Jun 25 #2
used ta be the rythym supported the song. now its all beat loops and songs are created to fit the rythym. I could msongs Jun 25 #3
It was a solid dissertation and he's a respected professor. DJ Porkchop Jun 25 #5

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,506 posts)
1. As a fan of the Beatles and George Martin,
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 05:02 PM
Jun 25

I take issue with his assessment. The Beatles had minimal technology to work with, yet their music still inspires new fans today. The remastering is minimal.

In the other end of the Spectrum is music prodigy Jacob Collier who is also heavily tech savvy. Excellent BBC doc...

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There is also evidence of a music Renaissance in every branch of pop music. The trIck is getting around the business side and reaching music lovers directly. Talent attracts talent. And there is a lot of talent out there

drmeow

(5,170 posts)
4. "The Beatles had minimal technology to work with, yet their music still inspires new fans today."
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 06:58 PM
Jun 25

I was thinking "did the Beatles really use that many mics to record the drums?"

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,506 posts)
6. No way.
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 01:26 AM
Jun 26

Especially in 62 & 63. They grew by leaps and bounds. But they grabbed people with their music, voices AND hair immediately! There is a spirit that comes through in their early music because it wasn't perfect.

drmeow

(5,170 posts)
7. That's what I as thinking
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 07:39 PM
Jun 26

I mean, didn't some of the famous rooftop performance get included on the Let It Be album? That's certainly not a heavily controlled sound environment.

Shermann

(8,274 posts)
2. I mostly agree with him
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 05:12 PM
Jun 25

It's all about having skin in the game. The producers did, the bands did, and the fans did. Now it's all commoditized and all about cost and convenience. That doesn't quite fall to "zero value" though.

It can still be bigger and more real than all that, you just have to get out and see these bands live.

I disagree about amp modelers. A lot of the 70's and 80's guys had basic Marshall sounds that were already homogenized. They mostly relied on trial and error and amps really aren't that hard to record. Some of the players using modelers today are extremely skilled, however. Link:


msongs

(69,436 posts)
3. used ta be the rythym supported the song. now its all beat loops and songs are created to fit the rythym. I could
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 06:33 PM
Jun 25

go on but that about covers it. Very little new music is created to fit the song

DJ Porkchop

(565 posts)
5. It was a solid dissertation and he's a respected professor.
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 09:13 PM
Jun 25

Sadly, it tells us what we already know about AI, the scumbaggery of UMG and Spotify, and the kids not knowing value.
It makes me grateful for the sweet memory of buying vinyl as a teen and getting "turned on" to a band by a friend.
I sold all my CD's and vinyl and I miss 'em. Put it all up on the cloud, never to really own it again. I just rent.

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