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highplainsdem

(55,263 posts)
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 04:22 PM Mar 19

I'm planning to add the following statement about AI to the forum's Statement of Purpose

per EarlG's suggestion:

Please do NOT post anything AI-generated, whether music, lyrics, or images/video with a music video. Musicians, like other artists, are fighting for their intellectual property rights and survival as working artists against AI.


I would like to hear what you think.

Btw, I'm also planning to leave the pinned topic about not posting AI on the board as well, and will add to it. We've seen some very important and eloquent arguments against AI from some of our favorite musicians - Jimmy Page's statement recently (see https://www.democraticunderground.com/1034140360 ) was an especially good example - and I'm going to add some of those to that OP, or at least link to threads they're in.

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I'm planning to add the following statement about AI to the forum's Statement of Purpose (Original Post) highplainsdem Mar 19 OP
Like you, I loathe AI. I will not watch AI on purpose. I will push against AI in any way that is supported ... marble falls Mar 19 #1
Glad to hear it. highplainsdem Mar 19 #7
Recommended ProfessorGAC Mar 19 #2
Thanks, Professor! highplainsdem Mar 19 #4
Synthesizers ended the careers of thousands of studio musicians back in the 80s. Basso8vb Mar 19 #3
True. There's no good substitute for real musicians and singers. And it's so very sad to see AI peddlers telling AI highplainsdem Mar 19 #5
In Some Applications, Yes ProfessorGAC Mar 19 #6
kick highplainsdem Mar 20 #8
again highplainsdem Mar 27 #9

marble falls

(64,608 posts)
1. Like you, I loathe AI. I will not watch AI on purpose. I will push against AI in any way that is supported ...
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 04:37 PM
Mar 19

... by the ToS.

Basso8vb

(820 posts)
3. Synthesizers ended the careers of thousands of studio musicians back in the 80s.
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 04:49 PM
Mar 19

Now with this AI slop, musicians are being body slammed once again.

Everyone loves music but nobody seems to want to pay for it.

highplainsdem

(55,263 posts)
5. True. There's no good substitute for real musicians and singers. And it's so very sad to see AI peddlers telling AI
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 06:19 PM
Mar 19

users they're being creative, real artists, just giving a prompt of a few words to an AI trained on all the copyrighted work the AI company could steal. The claim that they're "democratizing creativity" is so laughable.

The AI companies are lobbying very hard now in both the US and the UK - other countries, too, though those are the main ones getting attention in English language news - for AI to be given an exemption from copyright and intellectual property laws. OpenAI is even claiming it's necessary for "national security" reasons, and of course they've given Trump a lot of money.

It will really destroy the arts, in fact most of human culture and knowledge, if they get away with this theft.

ProfessorGAC

(72,232 posts)
6. In Some Applications, Yes
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 06:47 PM
Mar 19

But, replicating a string quartet or octet on a sampling synth is extremely difficult & on a constructive synthesizer, nearly impossible.
Same with brass sections.
I was a multikeyboardist for 30 years, so trust me, if an artist wanted the a brass or string section to be dynamic & interactive, they wouldn't use electronics.
If all I wanted was a cello witha strong bow attack, then yes. I can do that easily.
Want a sax solo? I can do it, especially since I learned enough sax (with rotten tone) to phrase like a sax.
But, if I wanted a Phoenix Horns thing, I'd be way better off with horn players.
Samplers did, in fact, do quite a bit of what you describe.
But, not synths. Synths sound like synths. They do, at best, a rough approximation of other acoustic instruments.

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