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Duncanpup

(13,689 posts)
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 05:23 PM Dec 2023

I detest Gibson you see the New epi greeney $1500.

It’s a epiphone which is owned by Gibby a release of Peter Greens les with the neck humbucker flipped upside down and then out of phase in selector.

Years ago I discovered MIJ made in Japan guitars first one I bought was a 79 Tokai les Paul reborn supposedly clone of R8 off another soldier for couple hundred.

And today there is some truth and bullshit myth in the made in Japan markets. Some Japanese guitars are stellar instruments on their own and others just junk.

And over years I’ve collected other Japan Lester’s and strats because they were well below the greed prices yet impeccable in build and tone compared to Nashville or greed of Coronado.

Some of these guitars
Orville
Epi Japan
Tokai
Aria
Edwards
Navigators
Greco

Yet my favorite when it comes to a les Paul is Burny super grade and especially those super grades manufactured by Japan Dyna Gaki. My super grades would put Nashville Gibson to shame they should go Japan and learn quality and attention to detail Burny super grades stellar instruments.

I just found another DynaGaki super grade on line and I’m bidding on it. Why this line of super grade one long tenon and it’s apples and oranges long tenon medium tenon my preference


Who in the shit wouldn’t like to have a new les Paul American standard or fender American series yet they’re so overpriced because of the letter G or F on headstock. I have one Gibby standard 95 odd because it has long tenon and was done in nitro probably after market pro paint strip new paint then nitro it was consignment buy.

So today on way home from day trip we had stop at the Walmart of guitar stores guitar center why because sons girlfriend wanted go to marshals to look at Christmas decorations and Gc was in same stores and parking lot. I prefer mom pop stores yet today it’s reverb .com no more brick mortar store.

So my son goes look at this it was epi Peter green / Kirk Hamnet Greeney $1499 dam for epiphone. You can get same epi quality $500 less in buying the 59 reissues or used maybe $600.

While back I had a Vintage it’s U.K . company anyway I had this same idea of greeney clone vintage V100 lemon distressed come across my work bench I think they call it Vintage PMG is what dude told me.

He wanted replace bridge tail piece post all aftermarket tuners and for me to drop in these Dimarzio PAF new pots caps period late 50’s. Used I think he told me $450 brand new i think $800. Finish was great can’t remember what I know it wasn’t nitro yet after I well my one son and i got it completed it was tone beast.

Other week I upgraded Harley Benton sc 450 for young teen you know with upgrades humbuckers we’re sounding sweet in $225 used guitar mahogany body maple cap rosewood fret or maybe Indian rosewood can’t remember the specs on neck wood.

$1500 for clone of now Kirk hammets Greeney. Here is something think about google Eastman SB 59 nitro finish long tenon handmade out of china used $1500 range. Today players can’t afford American made they’ve priced us out.

Yet people are brainwashed they think just because my geetar has G or F on headstock made murica automatically makes them super player. Price tag don’t make you decent player just dyslexic bad punctuation rant but this is just corporate greed.

And I’m not getting the thread between Metallica new greenery owner they actually don’t give off the blues rock of Fleetwood Mac in Peter greens day.

Shit I need calm down relax with strawberry ice cream.



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I detest Gibson you see the New epi greeney $1500. (Original Post) Duncanpup Dec 2023 OP
I didn't know that you are a guitar man leftieNanner Dec 2023 #1
Good idea. Definitely. calimary Dec 2023 #2
Gibson is a right wing asshole company. overleft Dec 2023 #3
The Peter Green Collection OneBlueDotS-Carolina Dec 2023 #4
I love my 2002 Gibson SG standard. Eko Dec 2023 #5
Cool Eko i have a Strat I added tone blender to. Duncanpup Dec 2023 #6
I was a strat person for a long time till I found the SG. Eko Dec 2023 #7
I'm very fluid on guitars Eko Duncanpup Dec 2023 #8
You would love my SG. Everyone does. Eko Dec 2023 #9
Eko Duncanpup Dec 2023 #10
Got my tech at work to do it. Eko Dec 2023 #11
Thank you Duncanpup Dec 2023 #12
No prob. Eko Dec 2023 #14
Another Japanese guitar to add... LPBBEAR Dec 2023 #13
Those are cool guitars. Eko Dec 2023 #15
Yes LPBBEAR Dec 2023 #16

leftieNanner

(15,698 posts)
1. I didn't know that you are a guitar man
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 05:31 PM
Dec 2023

I have my Dad's old Martin acoustic guitar. Circa 1950s. Thinking of giving it to my new son in law for his birthday next year. I don't play any more. Good idea?

calimary

(84,332 posts)
2. Good idea. Definitely.
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 05:36 PM
Dec 2023

Somewhere I still have my old acoustic guitar. My son the musician gets it when I go.

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,432 posts)
4. The Peter Green Collection
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 06:32 PM
Dec 2023

Man Of The World
The Peter Green Collection
16 – 28 June 2023

As a founding member of the seminal rock band Fleetwood Mac – and the genius behind the hits 'Albatross', 'Black Magic Woman', and 'Man of the World' – Peter Green (1946-2020) is still widely regarded as one of the greatest guitarists and songwriters of all time. Despite leaving Fleetwood Mac in 1970, Green's pioneering talents gained him a legion of faithful fans, including the likes of fellow legendary guitarists Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, Kirk Hammett, David Gilmour and Noel Gallagher. Over his lifetime Green amassed a large range of more than 150 guitars, as well as amps, pedals and other equipment. This impressive collection of individual items is offered by his Estate for the first time. Together with his treasured guitars, the sale comprises several important handwritten lyrics and some of his psychedelic sketches in this dedicated online-only sale.

The Peter Green Estate commented: "Peter's contribution to the Blues and Rock music genres as a brilliant musician, guitarist, songwriter and vocalist is well established worldwide. Peter was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1998. His guitar playing was original and unique. BB King said Peter had the sweetest tone he'd ever heard: "He was the only one that gave me the cold sweats." We hope that Peter's guitars and other items included in the auction will be of great interest to his fans and find good homes."

Please refer to the post-sale information in the pdf auction catalogue, for important notices regarding post-sale collection and storage for this auction. Please contact the department at popularculture@bonhams.com for post-sale assistance and enquiries.

https://www.bonhams.com/auction/29196/man-of-the-world-the-peter-green-collection/?page=4

Eko

(8,492 posts)
5. I love my 2002 Gibson SG standard.
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 12:01 AM
Dec 2023

Replaced the pickups with 57 classics and got rid of the master volume on the bridge volume so I can mix the pickups in like I like.

Duncanpup

(13,689 posts)
8. I'm very fluid on guitars Eko
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 05:21 AM
Dec 2023

Single coils or Humbuckers I love them both.

And the only SG in the herd is a epiphone I bought years ago to upgrade yet never got around to it.

Yet I like the epi SG double neck

Although I see them at times on reverb.com the SG double necks reasonable in price I just never bought one to upgrade.

Eko

(8,492 posts)
9. You would love my SG. Everyone does.
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 05:32 AM
Dec 2023

The neck is just fat enough, not like a 58 les but still has some girth. Man I pick it up and the first thing I play is some Allman bros. It just feels right. I was working for a large music store and bought it in as a used item. For like 19 years I was a strat player but every day after buying it in I was playing it. After about a week I was like f this I need this so I bought it. I dont know how many guitars I have , maybe like 20 or so? That and my 2021 Martin D18 are the ones I would run out of my house naked carrying if the house was on fire.
Eko.

Duncanpup

(13,689 posts)
10. Eko
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 06:02 AM
Dec 2023

Can you please post here or Dm me the written instructions of the wiring diagram of your SG to mix the pickups the caps pots that you used because you have me interested friend.

I’ve always been one to roll off the volume or tone on guitars to say get that smooth sound and then dime it for the presence.

I recently acquired another WELCH WG 59 $200 used and as a platform to upgrade these guitars are the deal nibs fret edge binding long tenon
Maple cap mahogany body a beast in this one is just shy of 10 pounds on the scale weight wise.

I acquired one years ago and never parted with it after replacing bridge tuners pickup’s pot caps even the original tail piece is aluminum I kept it.

Do not know much about them only that some guy in NC was having them made in Asia.
Then he would assemble them here in North Carolina.

Teles
SG
Les Paul’s his 59 version is what I picked up used.

And I think he offered a 60’s version of les as well.

Alls I know is in reading about his operation is Gibson lawyers came knocking and he shut down.
You know just google Heath Welch guitars friend I ramble.

Eko

(8,492 posts)
11. Got my tech at work to do it.
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 12:26 AM
Dec 2023

But I found this and it looks really easy.
https://www.premierguitar.com/diy/mod-garage/les-paul-independent-volume-wiring
NC huh? I lived all over there. Greenville, Boone, Ocracoke, Wilmington, Small town outside of Charlotte that I forget the name of, Corapeake, Winterville, I'm sure I'm missing some. NC rocks.

Eko

(8,492 posts)
14. No prob.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 10:43 PM
Dec 2023

I have a pretty good tech at work so if you have any other questions just let me know.
Keep on keeponing!
Eko.

LPBBEAR

(359 posts)
13. Another Japanese guitar to add...
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 09:10 AM
Dec 2023

to your list.

I first discovered these guitars by accident when I was playing in a club in Idaho Falls Idaho. During the day I wandered down to a local music store, Chesbro Music with the intent of trading my Gibson SG for something different. Don't worry, the SG I had was a horrible guitar, great sounding pickups but the neck was really "spongey". That might not be the correct term but the effect was that I couldn't play rhythm on it without it flexing in and out of tune constantly. The neck wasn't broken or damaged, just soft.
Anyway the sales person checked out the guitar and liked it and offered any of the telecasters on his wall in exchange for the SG and $50. I checked out all the tele's and settled on one that was in my opinion butt ugly but the best of the bunch. It was a original 1969 Paisley Caster which at the time (late 70's) weren't the collectors items they are now. Even though I didn't know of their future collectability at the time I definitely got the better deal in that trade.
After we finished the trade the sales guy offered to show off the new line of Ibanez guitars they had just gotten in. As I remember he mentioned they were going to be a distributor for them in the western US. I liked them. Very nicely made guitars. He offered to bring a few down to the club where we were performing. I said that would be great but really didn't believe he would show up. As well I told him even though I liked what I was trying out at the store my income could afford a new guitar.
After I left the store I forgot about it thinking he wouldn't show anyway.
That night, as we were playing, in walks the guy from the music store with not just one, but 3 new Ibanez Artist guitars. I got to try out all three that night live on stage. Very nice guitars, played really well, sounded great. A very "Gibson" kind of sound something like my SG but way more solid. Perfect for the Southern Rock type of music we were playing at the time. I really liked them. I thanked him and told him I wish I could afford one but I can't. He said no problem and said he was happy to hear them played.
A few years later I did finally get a couple of my own. A Black 82 and a beautiful violin finish 84 pictured below.
These can still be found used in the $1000 and up range. Way better buy for your money than many currently IMHO overpriced Gibsons.

https://woodnwires.wordpress.com/2012/11/22/unsung-heroes-1-the-ibanez-artist/

Eko

(8,492 posts)
15. Those are cool guitars.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 10:49 PM
Dec 2023

Ive come across maybe a dozen or so of those in the past 10 years. Always worth the money. Had someone bring in a yamaha SG style guitar to sell us a couple of years ago and we couldnt figure out the model. Had a lot of inlays and such. Took us about a week to track it down and finally figured out it was a Al Dimeola Custom prototype that they made like 12 of and he would give them away at his concerts. Even talked to Al himself about it. Think we priced it at like $1400. Should have bought it. Way cool guitar.

LPBBEAR

(359 posts)
16. Yes
Sat Dec 16, 2023, 04:20 PM
Dec 2023

Those Yamaha's are nice guitars. I've never been lucky enough to find one reasonably priced. Another nice one is the Washburn "Wing" series of guitars. That early period of late 70's and early 80's Japanese guitars had quite a few exceptional brands and models.

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