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Related: About this forumJourney keyboardist asks judge to resolve deadlock with band's lead guitarist
The fight is keyboardist Journey keyboardist Jonathan Cain vs band founder and lead guitarist Neal Schon.
It's about a company that they both co-own. The story is told mostly from Cain's point of view, and it looks like typical music business squabbling until the very last paragraph:
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The two band members have been at odds for several years. In 2022, for example, Schon sent a cease-and-desist letter after Cain performed the 1981 hit "Dont Stop Believin at former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate. Schon said Cain, whose wife was a spiritual adviser to Trump, had no right to use the Journey brand for politics. Cain countered that Schon was the one damaging the bands brand through his bullying tactics and reckless spending.
(the bold is mine)
link to article:
https://news.yahoo.com/news/entertainment/journey-keyboardist-asks-judge-resolve-214451744.html
VMA131Marine
(4,648 posts)Clouds Passing
(2,268 posts)SupportSanity
(1,122 posts)Out there to the max.
Clouds Passing
(2,268 posts)SupportSanity
(1,122 posts)As soon as I saw Trump's name involved in this, I knew it had no where to go except downward.
I like Neal Schon as a guitarist. Highly respected.
I didn't know what all he had to deal with in the groups keyboardist and his wife.
"Holy Crap" is just the most PG that I can get on this board. My reaction is way beyond that.
Condolences to Neal.
Thanks for the info.
PedroXimenez
(599 posts)i've heard she schpiel, it's incredible, actually threatening people with terrible things if they don't pay outrageous amounts to her.
Clouds Passing
(2,268 posts)Shermann
(8,642 posts)Thanks, MAGA.
Crowman2009
(2,805 posts)Last time I checked, they had hits before Cain joined the band. Not to mention that he was the first lead singer for Journey.
SupportSanity
(1,122 posts)I believe that:
Carlos found the song and got the rights to it
Greg is the lead singer on this song
Neal does the guitar solo
For many years I thought that Carlos did the guitar solo - loved it. Then I found out that Neal did the solo - much respect1
ProfessorGAC
(69,888 posts)Cain's playing is soulless & wholly lacking in interesting ideas.
He's a hack. His "cred" line was he studied the Hanon method.
Yeah, so did 10 million other kids learning piano. It was even more common than the Schirmer method I had until I switched to jazz.
The guy never played an original idea.
I could have played what he did with my right hand in my pocket.
Rollie played with passion & was a lightyear better at rhythm.
litwoken
(3 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 3, 2024, 01:00 PM - Edit history (1)
Less hits but better music. Of course I'm partial to the more gritty and raw rock feel of the post Santana spin off. The synthesizer (IMHO) ruined a lot of the bands I was into at the time. (Rush, Van Halen, etc)
I actually lived near both Gregg and Cain in the 80s. James Hetfield used to live up there during Metallica's hey day. Ran into Gregg a few times and he was always such a cool down to earth guy. In fact, the first time I met him, he saved my life. There was a mud slide in my neighborhood that took out a house and pushed it off the foundation and into a creek behind the property. A bunch of neighbors were helping salvage what they could and somehow they let a dumb kid like me in there to play around. My shoes were muddy and I started slipping down some busted up angled tile flooring heading for some jagged wood and exposed nails and out of no where someone picks me up and puts me down on stable footing. I was speechless and kinda in shock and he gave me this look like why the F are you here?! I never did properly thank him. I don't think he remebered me the second time we met and I wasn't going to remind him. lol
Crowman2009
(2,805 posts)Then after Ansley Dunsbar left and later Gregg, it was just screaming teenage girls. But I'm into long 10+ minute songs with occasional singing, so that's where I'm coming from.