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AndyS

(14,559 posts)
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 09:03 AM Aug 2023

Well, while we're doing frogs . . .

From deep in the archives, circa 1983. Original was K64 duped to digital and most recently cleaned up in AI post processing. I don't miss the film days. Shot from a very tippy canoe in Caddo Lake,TX. American Bull Frog. If stretched out he'd be 18-20 inches long. Among other things they eat small birds.

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Well, while we're doing frogs . . . (Original Post) AndyS Aug 2023 OP
Bad bullfrogs RainCaster Aug 2023 #1
From your profile I'm guessing you're located in Washington state. AndyS Aug 2023 #3
I kill them long before they get to eating size RainCaster Aug 2023 #6
their natural range was the eastern half of the US..... Gato Moteado Aug 2023 #7
I was on the grad committee of a student researching... mike_c Aug 2023 #11
Great photo, Andy! He sure did clean up well. nt CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2023 #2
I did the best I could but film in inherently less sharp than digital. AndyS Aug 2023 #4
Right there with ya on that! Digital really works. nt CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2023 #5
i think what really kills the sharpness in color film.... Gato Moteado Aug 2023 #8
great shot! Gato Moteado Aug 2023 #9
Yep! nt AndyS Aug 2023 #10

RainCaster

(11,543 posts)
1. Bad bullfrogs
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 09:27 AM
Aug 2023

They are an invasive species where I live. They have been trying to establish themselves in my koi pond, and I have been discouraging them with a barbed fork. They will eat my baby koi and hummingbirds too, so they are not welcome. They have killed all the native chorus frogs on our land, and we love those little guys.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
3. From your profile I'm guessing you're located in Washington state.
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 09:45 AM
Aug 2023

That makes them invasive but not in the traditional sense as in being introduced by man. Welcome to the effects of Climate change. Bull frogs in WA are 1400 miles north of what was their range 50 years ago. 1400 miles north in 50 years! That's quite a migration for a non migrating species. I had a similar conversation with a denier not long ago: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218112984

So, your dilemma isn't how to get rid of them but how to adapt your landscape to them. They are there to stay.

They are edible though and quite tasty. If you're interested PM me and I'll tell you how to prepare them.

RainCaster

(11,543 posts)
6. I kill them long before they get to eating size
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 09:53 AM
Aug 2023

Part of the Reason they arrived so quickly is transportation - they hoped a ride as a pet before being released. Like those jumping carp.
You're right, I live in Washington state.

Gato Moteado

(9,927 posts)
7. their natural range was the eastern half of the US.....
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 12:58 PM
Aug 2023

...all the way up to canada. i don't think climate change was a factor in their invasion of the western US....they were introduced most likely via the pet trade or people out west wanting to cultivate them as a food source.

i think your idea of promoting them as a food source is definitely a potential solution.

mike_c

(36,332 posts)
11. I was on the grad committee of a student researching...
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 02:04 PM
Aug 2023

...the ecological impacts of invasive bull frogs on a California national forest some years ago. The student's permit required that all bull frogs handled in the field be killed after their data was gathered. They are a serious threat to western native amphibians. I've never heard of them taking hummingbirds, but it's not surprising. They'll eat just about anything they can swallow.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
4. I did the best I could but film in inherently less sharp than digital.
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 09:48 AM
Aug 2023

Film converts light to silver oxide crystals and then converts that to colored dye so there's no way it can be truly sharp. I don't miss film for a variety of reasons.

Gato Moteado

(9,927 posts)
8. i think what really kills the sharpness in color film....
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 01:00 PM
Aug 2023

...is the fact that you have to project thru 3 layers of emulsion in the negative to print images as opposed to just 1 layer in slide film or black and white negatives.

and, yeah, i am on board with not looking back at film cameras.....i'm good with digital.

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