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Related: About this forumSteve Garvey climbing the polls in California's U.S. Senate race
https://ktla.com/news/california-politics/steve-garvey-climbing-the-polls-in-californias-u-s-senate-race/To date, the former Los Angeles Dodgers and San Diego Padres slugger has not offered any specific proposals about border security or laid out detailed positions on other key issues.
He also hasnt revealed where, as a Republican, he stands on former President Trump in 2024 and whether he voted for him in the past.
But at the moment, Garvey isnt offering any specific proposals on how to achieve those priorities, running for now on the promise that he is the best candidate for the U.S. Senate seat once occupied by Senator Dianne Feinstein.
Oh lordy
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,887 posts)bucolic_frolic
(47,009 posts)quaint
(3,550 posts)bucolic_frolic
(47,009 posts)while he trades off his celebrity status. Not that Schiff is not a celebrity also, in a political sense. But an opponent could pound him with the usual Republican negative arsenal - woke, politicized, commie, etc. - going up against Mr. Clean. We'll see. The press should not allow Garvey to hide his platform.
quaint
(3,550 posts)At least Arnold Swartzenegger has a brain (he kept much staff), unlike Mr. Garvey.
Zambero
(9,765 posts)against an unpopular incumbent governor who was a very convenient target at the time. This time around it's an open senate seat, so other than celebrity status, the circumstances are somewhat different. Democrats need to rally around a single candidate to preclude Garvey from barreling into office on a technicality, and at the moment Adam Schiff appears to be that candidate.
quaint
(3,550 posts)Zambero
(9,765 posts)And a rare smart one at that. To his credit, he never identified with the far right, and was fairly liberal on social issues. So he did in fact pick up support from a lot of indies and more than a few Dems. Garvey on the other hand possesses no redeeming qualities whatsoever and needs to be branded as the rightie that he is.
Voltaire2
(14,719 posts)If Garvey gets into the general election, he will face approximately a 60+% Democratic vote. There is no good reason I can think of for anyone to drop out before the primary. But if you can explain why, go ahead.
catbyte
(35,774 posts)That's not good news. Celebrity trumps competence too many times.
Zambero
(9,765 posts)In retrospect, wishing she would have campaigned to retain her seat in Congress. It's a swing District that could fall into GOP hands absent a very strong Democratic candidate. Porter would make a great Senator, although her current poll numbers have her falling short. Consolidating Dem support would help to keep Garvey at bay.
quaint
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Zambero
(9,765 posts)His impeachment #1 case against Trump was masterful, and the GOP has done everything possible to take him down ever since, including an unwarranted censure and removal from key committees.
CrispyQ
(38,273 posts)Trump had called Schiff a pencil neck & then later a melon head. One of the pundits asked him about Trump's nicknames & Schiff laughed & said "I guess I'm a melon head on a pencil neck."
I love them both & thought it was bad strategy for both of them to leave the House.
niyad
(119,955 posts)quaint
(3,550 posts)From Wikipedia regarding his time in the state senate:
During his tenure, Schiff also authored "tough on crime" measures, which did not pass or were vetoed by both Republican and Democratic governors, including a bill to allow minors 14 or older accused of serious crimes to be tried as adults, and a bill that would have made it a felony to hire an undocumented immigrant.
And prior to impeachment and the J6 committee, I don't know what he has done for California. He is a fine attorney.
niyad
(119,955 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,675 posts)She was something of a token for conservatives. Schiff fits that bill perfectly. And his experience as an aggressive, male prosecutor, will be more likely to take the Garvey curious.
Its an open primary. How would Schiff or Porter dropping benefit the general election contest?
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,675 posts)It's our district and there are now two Dems, only one endorsed by Porter, against a horribly crooked MAGAt.
I don't trust any polls or news items with so much misinformation gobbled down as if it was truth.
We are in a living nightmare. Why she did this at this crucial time is perplexing. I believe it was her way out of politics.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)Right now I'm expecting a general election race between Schiff and Porter.
Zambero
(9,765 posts)However, my money would be on Schiff and Garvey.
Firestorm49
(4,195 posts)SouthernDem4ever
(6,618 posts)They stand for nothing but chaos.
ZonkerHarris
(25,277 posts)IcyPeas
(22,621 posts)On searching him I see he's been on their show a couple of times. He talks about the usual... crime, border, fentanyl, education, war ... no actual plan or details though. Also, he's boring... not an interesting speaker 😴 Also, they think his name recognition alone will get him somewhere. I, for one, don't watch sports so I have no idea who he is.
https://kfiam640.iheart.com/featured/the-john-kobylt-show/content/2023-11-29-steve-garvey-for-us-senate/
Grins
(7,890 posts)More - what are those 10% thinking?
David__77
(23,870 posts)I expect that 19% to further increase.
NoRethugFriends
(2,997 posts)calguy
(5,768 posts)But he'll be wiped out in the general election, like a very other recent Republican candidate before him.
BigmanPigman
(52,267 posts)That is the one word I feel when I hear his name in San Diego...
ificandream
(10,527 posts)The fiercer fight is for the number two spot in the general election, with Republican Steve Garvey and Democratic Reps. Katie Porter and Barbara Lee in a dead heat. Garvey has positioned himself as a Trump-agnostic moderate, while Porter and Lee are more closely associated than Schiff with their partys progressive wing.
The scramble for second place will determine whether the November election will erupt into a protracted intraparty battle between two Democrats or a more lopsided red-versus-blue contest in staunchly liberal California.
Schiff, the 12-term Democrat from Burbank, leads with 28 percent of likely voters, including those who are undecided but leaning toward supporting him. Former Los Angeles Dodgers star Garvey follows with 19 percent, while Porter has 17 percent and Lee notches 14 percent a statistical three-way tie.
Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/21/schiff-california-senate-00132816
quaint
(3,550 posts)HeartachesNhangovers
(832 posts)(where I lived for 54 years, so I know how shallow CA voters can be.)