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Auggie

(31,798 posts)
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 09:10 AM Mar 2024

Schiff, Garvey in 'statistical tie' for U.S. Senate seat, poll shows

San Francisco Chronicle / March 2, 2024

Rep. Adam Schiff and former Los Angeles Dodger Steve Garvey are poised for a November face-off to represent California in the U.S. Senate, according to a new poll.

The poll shows about 27% of likely voters said they’d back Garvey, the race’s leading Republican, a “statistical tie” to Schiff’s 25%, according to the UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies, which conducted the poll in late February.

Just 13% of likely voters supported Garvey in early January, IGS polling showed, while 21% backed Schiff, D-Burbank.

About 19% of likely voters said in late February that they’d cast their ballot for Rep. Katie Porter, D-Irvine, whose competitiveness in polls has slipped in recent months. Roughly the same percentage of voters backed her in January.

LINK (paywall): https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/senate-schiff-garvey-18700229.php

Highlights from the link:

• Registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans 2 to 1 in California

• More than half of likely voters said they’d vote for Schiff or Porter instead of Garvey

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Unless something catastrophic happens, Schiff is going to be the next Senator to represent California. Unfortunately, we have another seven months of campaign ads to weather through.

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Schiff, Garvey in 'statistical tie' for U.S. Senate seat, poll shows (Original Post) Auggie Mar 2024 OP
I don't know........................ Lovie777 Mar 2024 #1
Unlikely. Too many candidates in our idiotic jungle primary, which dilute JohnSJ Mar 2024 #4
Historically jungle primaries for US senate so far ended up D Vs D. If it happens D V R in the runoff ColinC Mar 2024 #9
Happened in 2022 Retrograde Mar 2024 #13
It was an online poll, and when the general election occurs in JohnSJ Mar 2024 #2
Early yet. If Porter or Lee drop out, the dynamic changes. quaint Mar 2024 #3
They have to if they lose the primary for the general. JohnSJ Mar 2024 #5
Two days left. quaint Mar 2024 #6
Yup. Most should have already voted. California makes it so easy to vote. They JohnSJ Mar 2024 #7
"I have not missed an election since I came of age." LenaBaby61 Mar 2024 #14
The primary is in two days. TwilightZone Mar 2024 #10
Gee, I never would have ever thought of that. Thanks for schooling me. quaint Mar 2024 #11
Your objection is noted. TwilightZone Mar 2024 #12
Today quaint Mar 2024 #20
Garvey is still a dodger. n/t Harker Mar 2024 #8
I trust Speaker Emirtra Pelosi LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2024 #15
I'm upset. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2024 #16
And what will Porter do now? She has been a real asset in the House. Does Min seem like he has a good chance? deurbano Mar 2024 #17
Porter ran in our newly drawn district 47. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2024 #18
She was a guest speaker (remotely) for my daughter's public health class at UCI, and she was very popular, deurbano Mar 2024 #22
I'm not sure why she opted to run for the Senate. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2024 #23
Agreed. I'm pretty sure this a House seat we will now lose. LauraInLA Mar 2024 #19
There is NO way CA will elect a Republican Senator. NONE. beaglelover Mar 2024 #21

JohnSJ

(96,530 posts)
4. Unlikely. Too many candidates in our idiotic jungle primary, which dilute
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 09:30 AM
Mar 2024

the votes for any one candidate.

Another stupid issue our state does is have a low threshold for a recall election. The same extremists are starting another recall attempt for Newsom, and because we have such a low threshold for signatures required to make the ballot, 11%, they will probably get it. Most states that allow recalls require 20-25%. We are such a large state, 11% is too low, and the legislature should have changed this after the last attempted recall. It costs the state millions, and there is nothing Newsom has done to merit a recall.

ColinC

(10,668 posts)
9. Historically jungle primaries for US senate so far ended up D Vs D. If it happens D V R in the runoff
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 09:51 AM
Mar 2024

…it would be a first. And in part thanks to Schiffs campaign trying to promote the right wing extremist cause he knows he will be easier to beat than Porter.

Short frame of reference to draw from but a D Vs D prospect is not unlikely unless at least one of the Dems tries tirelessly to make it happen (as schiff appears to be doing)

Retrograde

(10,646 posts)
13. Happened in 2022
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 01:14 PM
Mar 2024

Padilla, the Democrat who was appointed to fill Harris's seat, in the general election was running against a Republican whose name I forgot.

JohnSJ

(96,530 posts)
2. It was an online poll, and when the general election occurs in
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 09:21 AM
Mar 2024

November, there will only be two candidates, highly likely Schiff and garvey, and if Porter supporters vote for Schiff in the general, garvey will be toast.

Our jungle primaries encourage too many candidates in a primary, which not only could make the primary ballot confusing, but take votes away from leading candidates.

As long as Democrats and progressives vote for the Democratic candidate in the general, this will remain a Democratic seat.

This is a perfect example of the press showing a headline to make things appear a horse race is occurring between a Republican and Democrat, when in reality the general election should provide an easy victory for the Democrat.

quaint

(3,545 posts)
6. Two days left.
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 09:36 AM
Mar 2024

I was born here 74 years ago. I habe not missed an election since I came of age.
I do not need your schooling me.

JohnSJ

(96,530 posts)
7. Yup. Most should have already voted. California makes it so easy to vote. They
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 09:42 AM
Mar 2024

send a ballot to all registered voters with a postage paid stamp, and immediately notify you when the ballot was received and counted.

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
14. "I have not missed an election since I came of age."
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 02:30 PM
Mar 2024

Same here. Voted for Jimmy Carter @18, and have never missed a vote since at any level of voting.

I remember when California and Orange County was RED

Now, the coast here out West is the bluest in history

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
10. The primary is in two days.
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 09:58 AM
Mar 2024

There's no time to drop out and significantly influence the race. A lot of voters have already voted by mail or in early voting.

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
12. Your objection is noted.
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 12:08 PM
Mar 2024

If you expected us to interpret your assertions as anything other than an unawareness of the process, I don't think that's realistic. You asserted that it's early and someone could still drop out and impact the race. Neither is true.

I understand that you take issue with that interpretation, and that's fine.

quaint

(3,545 posts)
20. Today
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 08:27 AM
Mar 2024
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-03-05/2024-california-primary-election-not-voting-turnout
Of California’s roughly 22 million registered voters, only about 14% had returned their ballots as of Monday. Paul Mitchell, vice president of Political Data Inc., expects turnout will eventually hit 30% — ranking among the lowest in recent history.



SleeplessinSoCal

(9,669 posts)
16. I'm upset.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 05:06 PM
Mar 2024

Porter has been our rep for 1 year and 2 months. I was frustrated that she opted to run for Feinstein's seat against Schiff. Feinstein had been the moderate Democrat her entire career. We all once knew that. Schiff seems like the logical successor. Then his campaign pummeled the airwaves with ads raising Garvey's profile. And that frustrated me.

On top of that Senate race is a divided race with tons of money pouring in for Porter's successor.. I see no ads for the Republican Baugh. But lots of them tearing apart the endorsed candidate Min.

It's not a good time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California%27s_47th_congressional_district?wprov=sfla1

deurbano

(2,957 posts)
17. And what will Porter do now? She has been a real asset in the House. Does Min seem like he has a good chance?
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 10:14 PM
Mar 2024

I was surprised Porter barely won last time, so it's worrying that someone not the incumbent is running against the same guy who lost by so little. I hope there is a big effort being made to get UCI students from other districts with less competitive races to change their registration. My daughter was an undergrad at UCI during the midterms, and since we live in SF, it would have made more sense for her to vote in your district, but she/we didn't realize the race was so close. (I just looked at the results from 2022, and I guess it didn't end up being quite as close as I thought, but still concerning.)

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,669 posts)
18. Porter ran in our newly drawn district 47.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:54 PM
Mar 2024

Before that we were in the 48th, stuck with Rohrabacher.Then the 2018 blue wave gave us Dem Harley Rouda. He lost to Michelle Steele in 2020. Then the new district and we got Porter. It was close enough.

Dave Min has been taking a pounding in some questionable tv ads. One of our local dems who has managed to win in red OC isn't supporting Min. But he defeated a pretty pretty well known Republican in 2020 to be our State Senator. Now we may have to fight like hell because that seat is in play.

Porter may want to go back to teaching. She's a single mother and I suspect she wouldn't mind being home more.

deurbano

(2,957 posts)
22. She was a guest speaker (remotely) for my daughter's public health class at UCI, and she was very popular,
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 02:23 PM
Mar 2024

so I'm sure that would be a great option. But I meant... she has a real gift for effectively explaining issues and advocating for solutions... and the House provided a perfect forum for her needed voice. If she loses (which seems likely), I'm disappointed she won't have that forum. (Also sorry to lose Barbara Lee's voice in the House.) And it's frustrating to not only lose her valuable contribution to the House, but then have to fight to keep her seat.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,669 posts)
23. I'm not sure why she opted to run for the Senate.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 03:28 PM
Mar 2024

I think none of the three anticipated a Garvey getting in, let alone leading on the polls. Very shortsighted. I've yet to see an ad for Garvey. And there have been no yard signs so far. Very different from past elections in our 26 years here.

It's just strange being in this environment of bifurcation of information. And scary.

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