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Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:36 AM Sep 2014

Nunn pushes back against Perdue’s low blow.

I'm not sure if this rebuttal is strong enough, but considering Perdue's smear against Nunn also implicates Bush's Foundation, so much so that they've felt the need to speak out against Perdue's attack ad, it could have an impact.


Nunn pushes back against Perdue’s low blow.
09/29/14 10:40 AM—Updated 09/29/14 11:12 AM
By Steve Benen

Nearly every major campaign at some point faces a classic public-relations dilemma: what do you do when a rival launches a scurrilous and untrue attack? You can respond forcefully, running the risk that you’ll bring more attention to the lies, or you can ignore it, running the risk that the lies will go unchallenged and voters might deem them true.

In Georgia’s competitive U.S. Senate race, Michelle Nunn (D) found herself in this exact situation. Republican David Perdue recently approved a National Republican Senatorial Committee attack ad that accused Nunn of funneling money to terrorists while leading former President George H.W. Bush’s Points of Light Foundation. Neil Bush, the former president’s son, called the attack “ridiculous” and “shameful,” adding that the allegations make his “blood boil.”

As Benjy Sarlin reported, Nunn is trying to turn Perdue’s attack against him, making his dishonesty a campaign issue.
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The usual rules still apply, of course, and Nunn risks bringing attention to ugly falsehoods, but at the same time there may be real value in raising questions about Perdue’s character. If Nunn’s response succeeds, the question for Georgians to ask themselves is what kind of candidate would launch such an attack, and more to the point, what kind of senator would he be?




http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/nunn-pushes-back-against-perdues-low-blow



Bush Family Member Condemns David Perdue For Linking Michelle Nunn To 'Terrorists'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/17/bush-perdue-nunn_n_5838320.html
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Nunn pushes back against Perdue’s low blow. (Original Post) Raffi Ella Sep 2014 OP
Anyone who believes that she gave money to terrorists n2doc Sep 2014 #1
oh yeah, no, it won't sway partisans. Raffi Ella Sep 2014 #2
I think this is a good move Brainstormy Sep 2014 #3
Huh!? Now we're supposed to be defending the bushes? Orwellian. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #4
what rtracey Sep 2014 #5
NO.... A BUSH IS DEFENDING OUR DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE !!! groundloop Sep 2014 #8
I think with the election being just around the corner the timing is good. Raffi Ella Oct 2014 #13
I'm guessing you didn't watch the video rpannier Oct 2014 #9
Perdue Is a Typical Republican Leith Sep 2014 #6
So true! JDPriestly Sep 2014 #7
I think she's doing a good job with her ads... Phentex Oct 2014 #10
Yeah, her ads have been consistently good. Raffi Ella Oct 2014 #12
Great ad karynnj Oct 2014 #11
Excellent analysis. Raffi Ella Oct 2014 #14
As is yours - and more importantly you are from that state so can comment more karynnj Oct 2014 #15
Really? ha, I had to go back and try to decipher what she said at one point. Raffi Ella Oct 2014 #16
I think Perdue's smears of Obamacare babylonsister Oct 2014 #18
Me too, I had healthcare before but it's a lot cheaper now. Raffi Ella Oct 2014 #19
I really hope Nunn wins as I am tired of the republicans running this state into the ground while cstanleytech Oct 2014 #17
Yup. Raffi Ella Oct 2014 #20
And I really hope Jason Carter babylonsister Oct 2014 #21
Agreed, Georgia got a really raw deal with Deal in office. nt cstanleytech Oct 2014 #22

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
1. Anyone who believes that she gave money to terrorists
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 01:48 PM
Sep 2014

Isn't going to vote for her anyway. It is good she is fighting back, combined with Crooked Deal the repubs are running a very sleazy slate and it should be easy to associate the two slime balls (Deal and Perdue) with that.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
2. oh yeah, no, it won't sway partisans.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 03:07 PM
Sep 2014

I'm just saying the fallout from Perdue's attack ad got a lot of air time, Nunn's ad speaks to those in the middle. I'm hoping we get some traction out of it all with just a few weeks left to go.


Brainstormy

(2,433 posts)
3. I think this is a good move
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:23 AM
Sep 2014

on Nunn's part. The piece is understated and calm. The Bush quote should go a long way, too.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
5. what
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:15 PM
Sep 2014

Did you actually watch the ad... No one in the ad defended the Bushes. Nunn defender herself while running the 12 Points of Light Foundation for Bush. And the Bush son ( who I never heard of) says what the Right Winger said was BS......

groundloop

(12,332 posts)
8. NO.... A BUSH IS DEFENDING OUR DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE !!!
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 07:16 PM
Sep 2014

That's gotta' leave a mark.

I just hope that Michelle Nunn didn't wait too long to push back against those terrorist claims. They've been out there for quite awhile, I'm afraid they might have had a chance to poison undecided voters opinion on Michelle Nunn.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
13. I think with the election being just around the corner the timing is good.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:00 PM
Oct 2014

People are just starting to really pay attention, and with the controversy surrounding this AD it will get people's attention, they'll ask questions. Perdue is nothing but a sleazy businessman, no experience and a Bush has spoken out against him-

Like you said, "that's gotta leave a mark"

Phentex

(16,526 posts)
10. I think she's doing a good job with her ads...
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 09:20 AM
Oct 2014

I am still waiting for an opportunity to question Perdue about his No Amnesty ad. I want to know how he will answer the poultry companies, the landscapers and the construction businesses IF AND WHEN he "cracks down" on illegals. No politician ever does this in Georgia. They all back down to business. So why do we have to hear their lip service over this non issue?

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
12. Yeah, her ads have been consistently good.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:57 AM
Oct 2014

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There's a new Super Pac one that just launched, it talks about how Perdue is on women's issues. It's great. As for questioning Perdue, there's going to be a televised debate next week sometime between all three Candidates. I think it's going to be online, too. I'll have to look it up.

We're hearing about this Non Issue because the race is just that competitive, they really might lose! They screwed up big time with the Points of Light attack Ad.

karynnj

(59,989 posts)
11. Great ad
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:55 AM
Oct 2014

The fact that this is Sam Nunn's daughter and the organization she ran was GHWB's organization both protect her here - as does her classy demeanor and appearance when she speaks out herself - with revulsion against the ad. An ad her opponent signed off on.

I suspect that in ANY election, there are pools of people on both sides that will stay where they are no matter what. Here the key is getting them out. To Democrats, this unfair attack should echo with past unfair attacks - like the attack in neighboring SC on Clealand. To Republicans, it could make them a little queasy - which might make them a little less likely to vote. (Those that believe the charge are strong RW Republican votes that were already going to happen.)

To the people in the middle, you have an understated, professional woman - who seems very likable here - defending work that she, the daughter of a very respected conservative Democrat did for a BUSH charity. If they were considering Perdue, I hope that he now looks like a bully and a swiftboater. I can't help thinking this sways many on the fence - because it IMPLICITLY defines Perdue by his own actions as a creep - while emphasizing her own positives, including being bipartisan.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
14. Excellent analysis.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:24 PM
Oct 2014

I can see people on the fence really liking her. Her languid accent is very appealing, she seems very kind and intelligent but relateable, and with her credentials she is definitely someone that I can see Georgians voting for.

She's a ConservaDem but I do like her, she'd be a great start in turning GA blue.

karynnj

(59,989 posts)
15. As is yours - and more importantly you are from that state so can comment more
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:30 PM
Oct 2014

realistically about how people may react. (Me - I'm a Hoosier, who lived most of my adult life in NJ, and then retired to VT. ) I personally just thought she sounded like most nice smart people I have known.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
16. Really? ha, I had to go back and try to decipher what she said at one point.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:40 PM
Oct 2014

I thought she said 'love' when she said 'led' at the beginning. And she adds a few syllables here and there, Georgians like when their Pols do that. Or at least some do. I'd personally like a Bernie Sanders as my Rep, but Nunn will do.

It's good hearing from outsiders, it's a close race and I don't know if we can win it but I do know that Republicans are afraid they'll lose, so yeah. I'm on the edge of my seat here with fingers crossed.

babylonsister

(171,656 posts)
18. I think Perdue's smears of Obamacare
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:10 AM
Oct 2014

won't help him, and they were plastered all over the tube. It seemed that was all he was running on. I wanted to smack him upside the head; he may not like or need ACA, but I do, I live here, and I'm not alone.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
19. Me too, I had healthcare before but it's a lot cheaper now.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 10:26 AM
Oct 2014

I'm happy that the ACA helped you, too!


I thought ObamaCare would be a much bigger issue for this election, that they'd be able to bury Nunn and Carter with it, but the fact that it's such a close race tells you Georgians aren't as stupid as Perdue and the Republican Party thinks we are.

All I can say is I hope Democrats turn up at the polls this time. We can win if they do.





cstanleytech

(27,102 posts)
17. I really hope Nunn wins as I am tired of the republicans running this state into the ground while
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:10 PM
Oct 2014

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they line their own pockets.

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