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mucifer

(24,908 posts)
Sat May 22, 2021, 08:14 AM May 2021

1.07% of the people who have died from Covid in IL since Jan 1 were fully vaxxed

From IDPH website:


COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough
Last Reported: 5/19/2021

224
Hospitalized Due to COVID-19

64
Died Due to COVID-19 or Complications
1.07% of COVID-19 Deaths Since January 1, 2021

Data to be updated weekly on Wednesday.

Breakthrough is defined as an individual who tests positive for COVID-19 at least 14 days after being fully vaccinated and did not test positive in the previous 45 days.

Following CDC, IDPH is reporting only patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection that were hospitalized or died to help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance.


https://www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/vaccinedata?county=Illinois
You have to scroll down to see the breakthrough covid info.

Hoping for the best for us.
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Sanity Claws

(22,056 posts)
1. Interesting
Sat May 22, 2021, 08:26 AM
May 2021

I had been led to believe that fully vaccinated meant you might get sick but not sick enough to be hospitalized. I was not aware that there were any deaths among those who were fully vaccinated.
I wonder if there is a difference in the types of vaccines.

Arkansas Granny

(31,861 posts)
3. That's what I thought, as well. This is another reason I will continue to mask up when
Sat May 22, 2021, 08:41 AM
May 2021

using public transportation in crowded indoor situations.

Zambero

(9,775 posts)
4. Meaning 98.93% of Covid deaths involved individuals who were not fully vaxed
Sat May 22, 2021, 08:45 AM
May 2021

That statistic sounds like a pretty good argument for getting the vaccinations!

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,654 posts)
5. That's 64 people out of almost 5mil vaccinated
Sat May 22, 2021, 09:29 AM
May 2021

That’s not 1% of those vaccinated.
A better stat would be that .01% of those vaccinated died from breakthrough cases.

mucifer

(24,908 posts)
8. I got my first vaccine in December no regrets. I'm posting some public health facts which
Sat May 22, 2021, 09:55 AM
May 2021

might show that maybe we need to be a bit more careful after being vaxxed.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,654 posts)
9. You are deliberately misstating the numbers
Sat May 22, 2021, 09:58 AM
May 2021

And using your misreading to question the vaccine’s effectiveness.
.01% of those vaccinated have died.
Not 1%.
Frankly I think what you are doing is kind of sick.

carpetbagger

(4,840 posts)
14. I think the 1% number is more powerful.
Sat May 22, 2021, 02:06 PM
May 2021

These are all very small numbers from a snapshot in time. Even the nonvaccinated numbers will look good in absolute numbers over a brief time span. But even with a presumably skewed vaccinated group (probably the sick and old), 99% of deaths were in un/undervaccinated people, and I bet the mean vaccination rate over that time was 30 percent of adults over 40 (conservatively).

bronxiteforever

(9,513 posts)
10. The odds are clearly in favor of those who got vaccinated
Sat May 22, 2021, 10:10 AM
May 2021

I am sure we will all need booster shots. But it is important to note that the vaccine is not 100% effective. The non vaccination populations of India and Columbia and their horrendous mortality rate illustrates the danger of failure to vaccinate.

I thought this article was worthwhile (from last month)

“ These so-called breakthrough infections occurred among people of all ages. Just over 40% were in people age 60 or older, and 65% occurred in women. Twenty-nine percent of infected people reported no symptoms, but 7% were hospitalized and just over 1%, 74 people, died, according to the CDC.

Public health officials have said breakthrough infections were expected, since manufacturers have warned loudly and often that the vaccines are not 100% protective. The Pfizer and Moderna versions have consistently been shown to be above 90% effective, most recently for at least six months. Studies have also shown they are nearly 100% effective at ensuring that the small fraction of vaccinated patients who do contract the virus will not get severe cases or require hospitalization.”
https://www.bakersfield.com/ap/national/the-shock-and-reality-of-catching-covid-19-after-being-vaccinated/article_18e70e10-d7f8-5a3d-9f74-7f6edf9f6bad.html

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,061 posts)
11. About 2% to 3% of people are immunocompromised...
Sat May 22, 2021, 10:33 AM
May 2021

... too, so I hope those people will remain very cautious.

Since the vaccines work by priming our immune systems to react much faster to the spike proteins found on the outside of the coronavirus, the vaccines surely won't work as well for them.

I personally wish mask mandates hadn't been lifted yet, but it happened and now many more people need to be vaccinated to help all of us get through it safely.

lostnfound

(16,699 posts)
12. Not a meaningful statistic -- in January no one was fully vaccinated
Sat May 22, 2021, 10:54 AM
May 2021

And most of February too.

eallen

(2,974 posts)
13. Do not confuse that with the failure rate for the vaccine
Sat May 22, 2021, 10:54 AM
May 2021

People who are unaccustomed to thinking about probability and background rates can quickly get confused.

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