Rauner??? Are you kidding me? Rauner?

[murielm99]

Do we want to send another governor to jail? I know it is traditional here, but really. The guy is already a crook.

Why bother to inaugurate him if he wins? Just put him in jail. Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not spend $200 million dollars on court costs, lawyers' fees, or ink, or Internet advertising. Just put him in jail and save the state a lot of time and money.

[lunasun]

1. but but his ads promised to take on big unions and promote charter schools too...hates big

government but made his millions off government deals.
I am afraid of a Walker clone in charge in IL

[global1]

2. The Election Was Close - He Squeaked Out The Win.....

unions in Illinois were encouraging their people to cross over and vote for Dillard - and he almost won it. Even I took a Repub ballot so that I could put in a vote for Dillard over Rauner. I just don't trust this guy. He's slick in a slimy sort of way and says the right things that push people's buttons - but - they're all lies - because - we all know if he does win and he becomes Governor - he won't do any of those things that would have gotten him elected.

[murielm99]

3. The Illinois Education Association

called me and encouraged me to pull a repubbie ballot. I could not do it.

My son did. I guess he felt he had to.

[3catwoman3]

4. I got the same call...

...and like you, just could not do it. My husband did. Someone I know thru our county Dem organization teased us about having a mixed marriage. Next time I see that person, I will have to tell him my husband was supporting the strategy recommended by the IEA, and that he is a true blue as I am.

[global1]

5. It Was Difficult For Me To Do As Well - But I Bit The Bullet....

besides I thought it would give the Repubs a false sense of security in thinking that they had gained members in their party. It also gave me a chance to vote against Oberweiss as well. It was a twofer - Rauner and Oberweiss. Unfortunately because of their money and name recognition - they both won their races.

So it will be Rauner against Quinn and Oberweiss against Durbin.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

11. as much as it pained me, I did the same.

[lunasun]

12. Dillard is anti choice and would repeal gay marriage in ILL - Why why would I vote for him???

Local dem group here said show your support for dems even if not contested in the primary and vote but vote dem
In August, Dillard led 11 legislators of both parties in an amicus brief to a motion filed by the conservative Thomas More Society. The Society sought to dismiss a lawsuit against Illinois’s gay marriage ban filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and the Lambda Legal Defense Fund.

According to a press release from the Thomas More Society:

The legislators assert that the judicial branch should not rewrite the state’s marriage laws, stating that “to do so would be to place the court in a position of acting as a super-legislature, nullifying laws it does not like. That is not our proper role in a democratic society.” They also argue that such action would “dramatically interfere with the constitutional guarantee of separation of powers by which the general assembly is empowered to make public policy….”

The legislators also cite several sociological arguments stating that “… the marriage structure that helps children the most is a family headed by two biological parents ….” The legislators also supported the religious liberty concerns raised by the amicus brief, also filed this week by the Catholic Conference of Illinois, and the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod also filed this week, who urged that “of great concern to us is hostility that may be shown to Illinois’ religious minorities” who oppose same-sex marriage.


Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Kirk-Dillard-Says-You-Can-Take-Your-Gay-Marriage-And-Stuff-It-Up-Your-178127441.html#ixzz2wPz9bp00

[global1]

14. The Way It Was Explained To Me Was....

that Rauner would be a more formidable opponent to Quinn in the actual election. This was a primary and if Dillard would have won the Repub primary - he would be a weaker candidate against Quinn and Quinn would win handily. So crossing over to get a Repub ballot was just a tactic to create an easier path for Quinn in the actual election for Governor.

I hear what you are saying about Dillard - but that would have been cancelled out with a win by Quinn in the election for Governor.

[Rochester]

6. I got a better idea

Send Pat Quinn back to the Governor's mansion, and send Bruce Rauner back home!

[frazzled]

9. That's my idea, too ... but we can't just wish it

We have to sign up to work for the campaign, and if you can't do that, donate some bucks, etc.

[Rincewind]

7. I want to know how

he's going to enact term limits, since that would require changing the State Constitution. Of course, in his commercials he bragged about having absolutely no relevant experience in how to run the State.

[lunasun]

13. Quinn actually worked to get term limits on the ballot in the 90's so that is why he

can say in ads "Quinn failed to deliver term limits"
R's would love a con con in Il now that it is dem and strong and Walker this state

[Drale]

20. He might act like Walker,

but he would not have the House or the Senate doing everything he tells them too so nothing will get done.

[mucifer]

8. It's very scary. Quinn is very unpopular.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

10. a good deal of that is due to the mess Bloggo left us.

Quinn has actually done a not bad job, considering the almost infinite load of crap he faced. The dem leadership in both houses did not help much, to their shame.

Another problem is that a stale kumquat has a more vibrant and powerful personality than Quinn. He could put a roomful of funeral directors to sleep without lifting an eyebrow. But he appears to be honest and above board.

[lunasun]

15. Like Obama it has been upstream for him . For those who make him

unpopular ask them where they think their utility bill would be $$ wise without CUB

Quinn was instrumental in the creation of the "Citizens Utility Board", a consumer watchdog organization when Comed/ATT/GASco was sticking it to residents.without any push back
Pat Quinn's referendum grew into the State's largest consumer group, saving consumers $10 billion. $10 billion.
A lot of people only think of $$ - so mentioning the savings he gave them over the years may help

[Gidney N Cloyd]

21. That's a great point. Hope they make it a talking point.

[waddirum]

29. Quinn also saved all of the natural gas rate payers in Illinois from lots of heartache

by vetoing the misguided bill that would have required the gas companies to buy gas from two proposed coal gasification plants.

[global1]

16. Quinn Always Struck Me As An Honest And Sincere Man....

even when he was the Lt. Gov under Blago - he was the one that impressed vs Blago.

I trust Quinn to do the right thing under tremendous stress that Blago left this State in. I do not trust Rauner at all.

He would be another notch in the Repub Parties gun - to take over the states on that local level. He has to be stopped.

I said in another post that Rauner is slick in a slimy sort of way. He will be bad for the State of Illinois and anything uttered from his mouth on the road to this election will be the kind of things that might play well with the public and get him elected - only to be ignored once he would step into office.

IMHO - it is important to make sure that Rauner doesn't win.

[truebrit71]

17. Me too...he's the 'anti-Blago' if you will...

...The idea of Rauner anywhere close to the Statehouse worries me, and we MUST make sure that the Gov is re-elected, the only thing that provides any solace is that the solidly Dem-majority would keep him in check...and if he thinks he has a snowballs chance in hell of enacting term limits I have a nursing home to sell him...

[lunasun]

18. I worked for him as a subcontractor a short time and he was IMO 'a good guy" . Long time ago

so who knows now though
. Wasn't a machine guy archetype either but he could use it this time around against R's/teapac $

This>>IMHO - it is important to make sure that Rauner doesn't win.

[olkaz]

19. he's not.

I'm just sick to my stomach that we didn't even challenge him.

Sick.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

22. Want to elaborate on that? Because I think Global1's impression is pretty common (and I share it).

[frazzled]

23. Maybe it's better in the end that he is the opponent

Reflecting on it after a day or two, it seems to me that we should prefer to have this retrograde kazillionnaire with foot-in-mouth disease rather than a more moderate Republican, like Dillard. It will give a clearer choice; and the rather populist sentiment of the electorate right now will hopefully not take well to his one-percent status and his extreme positions.

[ColesCountyDem]

24. I crossed over and voted for *shudder* Dillard.

I have ALWAYS liked, supported and worked my *ss of for Pat Quinn, and I will do so again this fall. We had ONE contested race in my heavily Democratic, downstate county (one of the few in Illinois), and both candidates were friends, co-workers in the office, well-qualified and facing no Republican opposition in November.

Both my precinct committeeman and my county chairman were, at WORST, 'ambivalent' about the many reliable Democrats (like myself) who were contemplating pulling a Republican primary ballot in order to stop Rauner. Most of us who were considering doing so were doing so with the thought that, God forbid, should disaster befall Pat Quinn in November's election, who on the Republican side of the ballot would have the lowest 'puke factor' as Governor. That decision was a 'no brainer'-- Dillard.

There are tons of reasons why Dillard will not get my vote in November, and most of them have been listed here, but my decision rested solely on my judgment about which member of the Republican 'pack' was not a rabid, slathering, blood-thirsty, disaster-waiting-to-happen monster.

[greatauntoftriplets]

25. My sister thinks that Rauner is a moderate!

[raising2moredems]

26. Of course she does...

He's pro-choice and while not all-in for gay marriage, is okay with civil unions. In other words, he's not a "real" republican. Her mindset is what got Blago elected.

He is a crook and I have to give the Chicago Tribune credit. They ran an article on the sleaze. Shot down his aw-shucks $18 watch and provided decent detail about GCTR and how it screwed Detroit. And just like so many others (Romney), it wasn't Rauner. It was someone else in the company and BTW, we were "out of the day to day" by then.

Even Sweeney of the Rockford paper reminded folks Rauner is mega-rich and just putting on an act in his ads. If the folks in So IL think they are getting crumbs in today's environment, they'll have no crumbs if Rauner gets in. Which I just don't see happening.

I did not cross over - I too got calls to vote for Dillard. I dislike him, he is part of the group that continually runs for offices in IL. Tops on my list was voting for a dem for sheriff who could beat the boy-mayor's (morrissey) pick for county sheriff. And to keep the two pukes-running-as-dems from winning that primary. BTW, both pukes-running-as-dems got their a$$ kicked.

[greatauntoftriplets]

27. Unfortunately, my sister is not pro-choice.

She's a very religious Catholic. I'm the family pagan.

[raising2moredems]

28. And likely to stay home

Remember when Judy Baar-Topinka ran against Blago? She is a social liberal and plenty of pukes refused to vote for her. In my neck of the woods, the pukes are up in arms with rauner being pro-choice. I don't think he can muster up enough moderates to offset the loss of the "base" voters.

[mucifer]

32. So do both of my brothers who voted for Obama and will vote for rauner.

It looks realllly bad.

[raging moderate]

30. Bruce Rauner is a rude, presumptuous, condescending phoney.

I had the misfortune of meeting Bruce Rauner last summer while working the Democratic table at a county fair. Bruce Rauner came swooping down on our table, where I was arranging things inside and my co-worker was arranging things outside. With no warning, he suddenly enfolded my co-worker in his arms, looking down mockingly from his 6-ft+ height, rocking the poor man back and forth while crooning, "MMMM, if only I could hold you in my arms like this long enough to make you start thinking the right way." I stared in shock, SO GLAD that there was a large table between us. Apparently unaware that he had just been incredibly RUDE (and, in fact, legally guilty of assault), he then stuck his hand out at me and said jauntily, "I'm Bruce Rauner, and I'm running for Governor as a Republican."
How could this case of overprivileged arrested development fool anybody? Talk about a sense of entitlement! Clearly he has lived his whole life in the fantasy world of IOKIYAR. He reminds me a lot of Mitt Romney (and that character Michael, the socially clumsy office manager on that comedy show The Office). I really think the Democratic organization should just have people follow Rauner around with hidden videocams. They will certainly capture many moments like this one. Clearly, Rauner had NO IDEA that he had done anything wrong.

[City Lights]

31. I am already sick of seeing his commercials every half hour.

Especially the ones where Democrats are endorsing him. Turns my stomach.