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BATES COUNTY A pilot and six passengers survived a small plane crash that occurred just after 1p.m. Saturday near the Butler Memorial Airport, approximately one hour south of Kansas City.
First responders found the single-engine Cessna C206 in a hay field east of the airport runways, according to the Bates County, Missouri Sheriff.
The pilot had been able to parachute from the plane prior to the crash and was located at a hanger at the airport. EMS treated everyone involved at the scene and released them, according to the sheriff's office.
The plane is a total loss. The Bates County Sheriffs Office is assisting the NTSB and the FAA in their investigations. Authorities released no additional details including the name of the pilot.
https://hayspost.com/posts/103f5560-eee6-4220-a547-a576089ee71d
Wow, if everyone had died the pilot would have had a lot of explaining to do.
brush
(57,517 posts)instead of trying to land the plane. What a jerk.
He's no Sully Sullenberger that's for sure.
tanyev
(44,514 posts)Maybe even criminal charges. Was he trying to kill everyone???
usaf-vet
(6,908 posts)I hope the FAA takes away his pilot's license.... for starts.
brush
(57,517 posts)Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)ShazzieB
(18,670 posts)Shame on them, and shame on the editor who let it be published with so much important info missing.
Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)who abandoned his passengers and deserves to lose his license. I hope the people in his community eventually got the story straight and didn't leap to the same conclusions.
Irish_Dem
(57,527 posts)Was there a possible motive of some sort.
To harm the passengers.
Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)Wonder Why
(4,589 posts)his passengers died screaming.
Required by Law -
littlemissmartypants
(25,483 posts)Rhiannon12866
(222,205 posts)Though likely equally terrifying for me if I had to parachute out of the plane...
magicarpet
(16,514 posts)... that fucking pilot wasn't.
Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)CrispyQ
(38,266 posts)Wow.
Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)bluedigger
(17,148 posts)WTF?
cloudbase
(5,747 posts)bluedigger
(17,148 posts)I've been up in a glider, and solo'd and owned a Piper Clipper taildragger, although I never got my license. My ex got her glider license at 16, and went on to a career in civil aviation. I never even saw a parachute during flight training, much less received any instruction on using one.
Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)getagrip_already
(17,436 posts)A small plane would still have some response to rudder and flaps even without the engine.
A passenger or someone in the copilot seat could have glided it in.
But not the pilot. He gets the Maga award.
Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)Baitball Blogger
(48,046 posts)usaf-vet
(6,908 posts)Irish_Dem
(57,527 posts)Why bring a parachute with you.
And so quickly put it on and abandon ship with passengers onboard.
Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)Irish_Dem
(57,527 posts)Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)These were skydivers, and the pilot did not abandon the passengers, all of whom parachuted out. https://www.kctv5.com/2024/05/25/seven-people-survive-plane-crash-near-butler-memorial-airport/
Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)If that's what this was, it might explain why the pilot was wearing a parachute. Maybe this was a skydiving operation and the passengers had them as well, so the pilot was expecting everybody else to jump. But I'll be checking for the NTSB report on this one.
This is a C-206:
bluedigger
(17,148 posts)Although the pilot abandoning his plane while the wings were still on begs further details. It's hard not to attribute malicious intent.
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bluedigger
(17,148 posts)Much less all six passengers. I'm thinking everyone jumped.
Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)And the article isn't at all clear about whether the other passengers were in it when it crashed. Maybe they all jumped, and if that was the case the pilot shouldn't be blamed for jumping as well. More news will come, I'm sure.
Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)As I guessed, it appears to have been a skydiving operation. https://www.kctv5.com/2024/05/25/seven-people-survive-plane-crash-near-butler-memorial-airport/ So we can stop busting on the pilot now.
Srkdqltr
(7,661 posts)Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)on the basis of an incomplete news article. The cited article referred to the pilot parachuting out of the plane, leading people to conclude that he must have abandoned his passengers - and excoriating him accordingly - me too, until I realized there had to be more to the story. So I got to thinking, a C-206 is often used for skydiving, and nobody wears a parachute just to fly one around, so this was probably a skydiving operation. It was hard to tell from the photo whether that was all or part of the plane, but it was obvious that there had been no fire, meaning it probably ran out of fuel. Skydiving planes carry minimum fuel so they can reach jump altitude with a full passenger load as quickly as possible, further evidence that these were skydivers, meaning they all would have had parachutes, and that the plane ran out of fuel before it could get back to the airport. Or maybe there was an in-flight breakup of some part of the aircraft. If they were high enough they could safely jump out.
But sure enough, a quick google led to more news articles stating that everybody had parachuted out. https://www.kctv5.com/2024/05/25/seven-people-survive-plane-crash-near-butler-memorial-airport/ The pilot did not abandon his passengers; on the contrary, he did the right thing by telling them to jump.
So maybe when we see a news item that seems outrageous in some way, we should look a little further before we reach outrageous conclusions?
The Unmitigated Gall
(4,522 posts)Except, to point out that in this day and age, especially after the Costa Concordia incident, the concept of a "Gotta Be Me" pilot who would bail and leave his charges to their doom doesn't strain the imagination like it used to. But yes, the headline is reprehensible.
KS Toronado
(19,574 posts)Thanks for finding the https://www.kctv5.com/ article with the rest of the story. From what I see someone at
www.kctv5.com got in a hurry to post the accident (Published: May. 25, 2024 at 4:46 PM CDT|Updated: 11 hours
ago), Hays Post seen it and re-posted it word for word as found 4 hours later at (Posted May 25, 2024 9:00 PM),
then www.kctv5 updated their website (11 hours ago) or 7 hours after the Hays Post posted theirs.
I sent Hays Post an email about
https://www.kctv5.com/2024/05/25/seven-people-survive-plane-crash-near-butler-memorial-airport/,
have no idea if anyone is working on a 3 day weekend.
I thought something didn't add up when I found this article , thanks for finding the rest of the story.
usaf-vet
(6,908 posts)BATES COUNTY A pilot and six passengers survived a small plane crash that occurred just after 1p.m. Saturday near the Butler Memorial Airport, approximately one hour south of Kansas City.
First responders found the single-engine Cessna C206 in a hay field east of the airport runways, according to the Bates County, Missouri Sheriff.
The pilot had been able to parachute from the plane prior to the crash and was located at a hanger at the airport. EMS treated everyone involved at the scene and released them, according to the sheriff's office.
The plane is a total loss. The Bates County Sheriffs Office is assisting the NTSB and the FAA in their investigations. Authorities released no additional details, including the name of the pilot.
Here is the ORIGINAL link:
https://hayspost.com/posts/103f5560-eee6-4220-a547-a576089ee71d
Where does it say they all had parachutes and were skydivers?
My original was at 09:10 in response to an 08:08 original post.
Your post was at 11:47. Obviously, the story was updated at some point.
Glad they ALL survived.
Ocelot II
(120,858 posts)The reporter for that publication should have added that the passengers also parachuted to safety. The problem with the incomplete report was that it led people to conclude that the pilot had abandoned the passengers.