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Related: About this forumhard to believe medicare is 50
Medicare turns 50 this week, and it has been a very good half-century. Before the program went into effect, Ronald Reagan warned that it would destroy American freedom; it didnt, as far as anyone can tell. What it did do was provide a huge improvement in financial security for seniors and their families, and in many cases it has literally been a lifesaver as well.
But the right has never abandoned its dream of killing the program. So its really no surprise that Jeb Bush recently declared that while he wants to let those already on Medicare keep their benefits, We need to figure out a way to phase out this program for others.
What is somewhat surprising, however, is the argument he chose to use, which might have sounded plausible five years ago, but now looks completely out of touch. In this, as in other spheres, Bush often seems like a Rip Van Winkle who slept through everything that has happened since he left the governors office after all, hes still boasting about Floridas housingbubble boom.
Actually, before I get to Bushs argument, I guess I need to acknowledge that a Bush spokesman claims that the candidate wasnt actually calling for an end to Medicare, he was just talking about things like raising the age of eligibility. There are two things to say about this claim. First, its clearly false: In context, Bush was obviously talking about converting Medicare into a voucher system, along the lines proposed by Paul Ryan.
And second, while raising the Medicare age has long been a favorite idea of Washingtons Very Serious People, a couple of years ago the Congressional Budget Office did a careful study and discovered that it would hardly save any money. That is, at this point raising the Medicare age is a zombie idea, which should have been killed by analysis and evidence, but is still out there eating some peoples brains.
But then, Bushs real argument, as opposed to his campaigns lame attempt at a rewrite, is just a bigger zombie.
The real reason conservatives want to do away with Medicare has always been political: Its the very idea of the government providing a universal safety net that they hate, and they hate it even more when such programs are successful. But when they make their case to the public they usually shy away from making their real case, and have even, incredibly, sometimes posed as the programs defenders against liberals and their death panels.
What Medicares wouldbe killers usually argue, instead, is that the program as we know it is unaffordable - that we must destroy the system in order to save it, that, as Bush put it, we must move to a new system that allows (seniors) to have something because theyre not going to have anything. And the new system they usually advocate is, as I said, vouchers that can be applied to the purchase of private insurance.
The underlying premise here is that Medicare as we know it is incapable of controlling costs, that only the only way to keep health care affordable going forward is to rely on the magic of privatization.
Now, this was always a dubious claim. Its true that for most of Medicares history its spending has grown faster than the economy as a whole but this is true of health spending in general. In fact, Medicare costs per beneficiary have consistently grown more slowly than private insurance premiums, suggesting that Medicare is, if anything, better than private insurers at cost control. Furthermore, other wealthy countries with government-provided health insurance spend much less than we do, again suggesting that Medicare-type programs can indeed control costs.
Still, conservatives scoffed at the cost-control measures included in the Affordable Care Act, insisting that nothing short of privatization would work.
And then a funny thing happened: The acts passage was immediately followed by an unprecedented pause in Medicare cost growth. Indeed, Medicare spending keeps coming in ever further below expectations, to an extent that has revolutionized our views about the sustainability of the program and of government spending as a whole.
Right now is, in other words, a very odd time to be going on about the impossibility of preserving Medicare, a program whose finances will be strained by an aging population but no longer look disastrous. One can only guess that Bush is unaware of all this, that hes living inside the conservative information bubble, whose impervious shield blocks all positive news about health reform.
Meanwhile, what the rest of us need to know is that Medicare at 50 still looks very good. It needs to keep working on costs, it will need some additional resources, but it looks eminently sustainable. The only real threat it faces is that of attack by right-wing zombies.
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hard to believe medicare is 50 (Original Post)
luckyleftyme2
Aug 2015
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SheilaT
(23,156 posts)1. As someone who is now on Medicare,
which also means I'm old enough to remember what it was like before, and the dire predictions of the End of Civilization As We Know It, I can assure all you young'uns that it's great.
It's clear to me that we need to move to Medicare for All.
merrily
(45,251 posts)2. Medicare for all.
Premiums for should be based on some combination of age and ability to pay. If Social Security is your only income or most of your income, premiums stay the same. If you're Warren Buffet, your premiums should be higher.
I oppose making Social Security a financial needs-based program, but I think different considerations apply to Medicare.
Does anyone think that is a bad idea?