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sarisataka

(21,001 posts)
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 02:06 PM Jun 2021

Search warrants: Gun, spent bullet casings found in Winston Smith's vehicle

Search warrants: Gun, spent bullet casings found in Winston Smith's vehicle

Search warrants obtained by 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS reveal what Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension investigators found during a search of Winston Smith's vehicle. 

According to the warrants, investigators recovered a Smith and Wesson M&P 380 pistol loaded with seven rounds inside the vehicle. 

BCA agents also collected bullet fragments, as well as cash, from inside the vehicle. 

Whether Smith fired at the officers has been a point of contention in the investigation. 
https://kstp.com/news/search-warrants-indicate-gun-spent-bullet-casings-found-winston-smith-vehicle-uptown-minneapolis/6143268/?cat=1

This is where details become critically important. Bullet fragments and spent cases may mean a gun was fired in the vehicle at some point. However if the gun was loaded with seven rounds when it was recovered then it was not fired during the encounter. Its maximum capacity is seven rounds so if fired should have had no more than six rounds loaded.
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Search warrants: Gun, spent bullet casings found in Winston Smith's vehicle (Original Post) sarisataka Jun 2021 OP
This model comes standard with an 8 round magazine...... getagrip_already Jun 2021 #1
The article was specific sarisataka Jun 2021 #2

getagrip_already

(17,440 posts)
1. This model comes standard with an 8 round magazine......
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 02:26 PM
Jun 2021

And higher capacity mags are available. So it would seem as though at least one round had been fired at some point (2 if one was in the chamber and the mag was full).

sarisataka

(21,001 posts)
2. The article was specific
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 02:46 PM
Jun 2021

That it was the SW M&P 380. The Bodyguard model comes with a 6 round magazine, +1 would be 7.

I realized however the Shield is also part of the M&P line (my bad) That does come with 8 round mags.

So it does still come back to details. Which specific model and what size magazine did it have. At this point I'm not fully rejecting the police version of events but noting there is a scenario which would make it very improbable

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