Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

question everything

(48,803 posts)
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:03 PM Aug 2018

Scary observation about Pawlenty's loss

The polls were on his side. He won twice and probably would have won three times had he chose to run again.

But he lost because of his disdain to Trump in 2016 which he recanted later.

I always thought that Minnesota Republicans were level headed, not rabid (except for cray Michele Bachmann and Jason Lewis). I was even proud of them that they chose Rubio in their caucuses, staying away from pugnacious Cruz and Trump.

But now the Minnesota Republican party is Trump party. All of us should be concerned about it, really.

12 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

bearsfootball516

(6,510 posts)
1. Democrats also amassed over 260,000 more votes in their primary.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:11 PM
Aug 2018

While the rise of Trump candidates is scary, it's worth noting that they're also a clear minority, and a shrinking one at that.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,845 posts)
5. No, he was a total douche. He was a smilier version of Scott Walker
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:27 PM
Aug 2018

who tried to turn Minnesota into a cold Alabama, and almost succeeded. But that's exactly what the GOP wants, isn't it?

exboyfil

(17,998 posts)
3. You have to wonder what would
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:15 PM
Aug 2018

happen to Kasich if he had a primary for Ohio governor. It may be that all moderates will soon be chased out of the Republican party (I use the term moderate loosely). In today's GOP Bush II would be a moderate and Bush I would be a socialist.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,845 posts)
4. All state GOPs have become trumpified, it would seem.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:25 PM
Aug 2018

But they are also becoming a fringe. Johnson will be easier for Walz to beat than Pawlenty might have been - even though as governor from 03-11 he sucked hard enough to bend light, he was still a big shot in the party and had the creds and name recognition Johnson doesn't have (the people in Minnesota who aren't Olsons or Nelsons are probably Johnsons).

geardaddy

(25,342 posts)
7. But Pawlenty won partly because the Independence Party candidates sucked DFL votes.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 04:29 PM
Aug 2018

I haven't seen a strong drive for an Independence Party candidate this time around.

question everything

(48,803 posts)
9. An interesting point from the PBS NewsHour
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:49 PM
Aug 2018

that many Republicans now view Pawlenty as a "Washington insider." A swamp thing, I suppose.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
6. Esp since Bannon claimed MN is thier number one target to go MAGA next . Stay strong !
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 03:49 PM
Aug 2018

They can't do harm if they don't get votes there

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
8. The GOP only got 35% of the votes cast yesterday.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 06:39 PM
Aug 2018

The precinct I worked had 26% turnout, the state averaged 12% since 2000 for primaries. If the trend follows, it will be lights out for any GOPer running.

The most common gripe I saw in what were probably conservative voters was not needing to see their ID. There were some that were really annoyed that I didn't check their proffered ID. As if I were the person who decided the law.

First three letters of your last name, first three of your first name, what's your address? You are John Alvin Doe, 1234 Elm St, NE? Please sign this and take that over to the table over there to get your ballot. No, I don't need your ID, you did that when you registered to vote. If someone came in and said they were you and you already voted, this system would tell me that. If they came in first, I'd know when you came in and I've never seen either case.

(and in one case, "This is the 5th Congressional district. We don't care if it was the 6th 40 years ago, it is the 5th today. Take your receipt, go get your ballot and please keep your voice down. You are holding up the show." Not really, it was "If you take this to that table, they will get you your ballot." Over and over...)

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
11. Reputations don't last these days
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 10:24 PM
Aug 2018

It's harder than ever to come out of the mothballs and win a race. Campaigns need to be of the moment to win, even in Trumpland.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
12. Anybody have the data from the 2002 and 2006 Republican primaries?
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 11:53 AM
Aug 2018

I'd be curious to know Timmy's numbers and relative support then.

Latest Discussions»Region Forums»Minnesota»Scary observation about P...