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PA voted by mail stats (Original Post) Deminpenn Nov 2022 OP
Hoping those vote by mail stats carry over to every other state Better Days Ahoy Nov 2022 #1
In PA, mail ballots are down from 2020 numbers although Deminpenn Nov 2022 #2
Ahhh. Thanks for insights. Better Days Ahoy Nov 2022 #3
I love going to vote in person, too Deminpenn Nov 2022 #4
I like the little ovals and handing in the ballot Better Days Ahoy Nov 2022 #7
I get a mail in ballot. tavernier Nov 2022 #5
Smart. You know the process we'll. Better Days Ahoy Nov 2022 #6
Heh heh. Exactly. tavernier Nov 2022 #14
Really can't compare a Midterm to a Presidential Year. 2022 compares favorably to 2018 Midterm's. Tommymac Nov 2022 #19
In my family 75% vote by mail. Quakerfriend Nov 2022 #8
Same here in central Pa. gab13by13 Nov 2022 #10
Remember this, gab13by13 Nov 2022 #9
How many cable news anchors reported this fact? gab13by13 Nov 2022 #11
Yes, more so than ever! Quakerfriend Nov 2022 #12
And most likely when repugs catch wind of who votes that way... GreenWave Nov 2022 #13
I guarantee that the Pa. state politicians gab13by13 Nov 2022 #16
This isn't nearly as many people as 2020, right? ColinC Nov 2022 #15
Pa. vote totals will not be known for 2 days, is my guess, maybe longer. gab13by13 Nov 2022 #17
Complete results on Wednesday Deminpenn Nov 2022 #22
I think since we get full results Wednesday, ColinC Nov 2022 #28
I will always vote by mail unless the worst happens and twodogsbarking Nov 2022 #18
Unfortunately I have vote provisionally, PRETZEL Nov 2022 #20
The election board gets a list of everyone who voted by absentee/mail Deminpenn Nov 2022 #24
No, was already told I have to vote provisionally, PRETZEL Nov 2022 #27
Reports like these FeelingBlue Nov 2022 #21
But there is a very good tracking system bucolic_frolic Nov 2022 #23
Some back of the envelope calculations Deminpenn Nov 2022 #25
Pretty close to actual results Deminpenn Nov 2022 #31
Does that count mail-in ballots dropped of in person? Orrex Nov 2022 #26
Yes, this is all absentee ballots Deminpenn Nov 2022 #29
Thanks! Orrex Nov 2022 #30

Deminpenn

(16,303 posts)
2. In PA, mail ballots are down from 2020 numbers although
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 06:43 AM
Nov 2022

imo that's because it's only been "no excuse" absentee ballot voting since 2019. Most Pennsylvanians are just used to voting on election day.

Better Days Ahoy

(706 posts)
3. Ahhh. Thanks for insights.
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 06:57 AM
Nov 2022

I get excited reading about high Dem mail-ins. And hopeful. Our house is split: Lori mails it, I go to the polls. I like the process of going there and seeing the poll workers. And pushing my ballot into the machine.

Deminpenn

(16,303 posts)
4. I love going to vote in person, too
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:04 AM
Nov 2022

It's easier now with the paper ballots, you fill in ovals for your candidates, then feed your ballot into the optical scanner yourself. The scanner will also tell you if you overvoted, too. If so, the judge of elections will give you a new ballot.

Better Days Ahoy

(706 posts)
7. I like the little ovals and handing in the ballot
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:09 AM
Nov 2022

Feels like accomplishing a substantial task, which it certainly is.

tavernier

(13,258 posts)
5. I get a mail in ballot.
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:06 AM
Nov 2022

I research it well and fill it out. Then I go to early voting and take it with me just in case there is a snag at the polls. I’m allowed to take it in the booth for reference after they tear off a corner. After I vote, I hand it to them to destroy and put my booth ballot in the machine.
Not taking any chances.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
19. Really can't compare a Midterm to a Presidential Year. 2022 compares favorably to 2018 Midterm's.
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:49 AM
Nov 2022

We are way over 2018 numbers.

Quakerfriend

(5,655 posts)
8. In my family 75% vote by mail.
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:17 AM
Nov 2022

I will say this- I have notice a much improved process in Montgomery Co. PA where I live.

Several years ago, my son did not receive his mail in ballot in time- despite having applied for one weeks in advance.

Now, sending ballot in via USPS - ballot is received by the county and vote is recorded within 2-3 days- at least that has been our experience.

gab13by13

(25,232 posts)
10. Same here in central Pa.
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:20 AM
Nov 2022

Easy Peasy, and the USPS delivers our ballots and I make sure to check that they were received by using Where's My Ballot on line.

gab13by13

(25,232 posts)
9. Remember this,
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:18 AM
Nov 2022

those Pa. ballots will be counted last and the Magats are going to claim fraud in Philadelphia, DOJ, are you listening to them? DOJ, now is the time to be partisan. There are no Democrats who plan to disrupt election day, only Magats.

On the other hand, Tuesday or maybe Wednesday or Thursday, whenever all the Pa. votes are counted will be a glorious day for democracy. Wife and I will have a hand in flipping a Magat Senate seat.

gab13by13

(25,232 posts)
11. How many cable news anchors reported this fact?
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:25 AM
Nov 2022

These are concrete numbers that can be relied upon but cable news anchors must read the teleprompter and recite what domestic oligarchs tell them to say.

Polls are used for propaganda.

Quakerfriend

(5,655 posts)
12. Yes, more so than ever!
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:30 AM
Nov 2022

I can’t wait to see Mastriano crawl back under the rock he emerged from!!!

-So thankful for Fetterman, Shapiro and M. Dean too!

GreenWave

(9,167 posts)
13. And most likely when repugs catch wind of who votes that way...
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:32 AM
Nov 2022

...illegal to vote by non-Republican ways. Don't count those votes until our donating suckers are fever pitch crazy about counting them AFTER the in person voting ignoring that ALMOST ALL arrived days BEFORE the election.

gab13by13

(25,232 posts)
16. I guarantee that the Pa. state politicians
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:40 AM
Nov 2022

are going to abolish no excuse mail in ballots for the 2024 election. I fucking guarantee it.

ColinC

(10,668 posts)
15. This isn't nearly as many people as 2020, right?
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:40 AM
Nov 2022

I wonder if we will know the results tomorrow night.

gab13by13

(25,232 posts)
17. Pa. vote totals will not be known for 2 days, is my guess, maybe longer.
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:42 AM
Nov 2022

The Magat state legislators passed a law forbidding counting mail in ballots until election day and then the Magats turn around and complain why it is taking so long to get results.

Deminpenn

(16,303 posts)
22. Complete results on Wednesday
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 08:43 AM
Nov 2022

All the counties took new state money to administer elections, but it came with the string attached that all mailed in ballots must be counted continuously until complete. I believe the counties are allowed to begin pre-canvassing mailed ballot starting on election day, too. They don't have to wait until polls close to start the process like before.

ColinC

(10,668 posts)
28. I think since we get full results Wednesday,
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 11:28 AM
Nov 2022

I am hoping that enough partial results would be enough to call most of the races Tuesday evening.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
20. Unfortunately I have vote provisionally,
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 08:33 AM
Nov 2022

somewhere between my receiving my mail in ballot and when I went to fill it out, I think I accidentally trashed it.

Not big deal though, I know I'm voting and the polling place is just around the corner.

Deminpenn

(16,303 posts)
24. The election board gets a list of everyone who voted by absentee/mail
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 08:47 AM
Nov 2022

If your ballot never made it back to the county election board, your name won't be on the list and there will be no indication that you've already voted. I don't think you'll have to vote on a provisional ballot.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
27. No, was already told I have to vote provisionally,
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 09:46 AM
Nov 2022

I'm fortunate that the county's Voter Services is in the same building as I work (I am a county employee) so went up there last week to follow up on an email I had sent to alert them that my mail in ballot was lost and the form to be used to request a new one wasn't linked to the website.

Now if I wanted to, I could have gone down to where the ballot print shop was and had them print me a new one, but I wasn't planning on going down there between then and election day so they just said to just do a provisional one and when my mail in is not counted, it'll be voided and my provisional would be counted.

FeelingBlue

(758 posts)
21. Reports like these
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 08:36 AM
Nov 2022

Make me very nervous. All we need is a bunch of Trumpers working in the mailroom destroying ballots they believe to be from Democrats. Scares me so much.

bucolic_frolic

(46,973 posts)
23. But there is a very good tracking system
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 08:44 AM
Nov 2022

voters are notified by email when their ballot is received. The party tracks who has already voted and contacts Democrats who haven't voted to ask them to vote in person. Slippage from ballots lost or trashed in the mail should be greatly minimized.

Deminpenn

(16,303 posts)
25. Some back of the envelope calculations
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 09:06 AM
Nov 2022

Last edited Mon Nov 7, 2022, 12:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Just for fun, went to the PA elections website and looked up the 2022 Dem primary numbers to compare to the current mailed vote stats. I used only Fetterman and Lamb and assumed that the % of Ds who vote for Rs and visa versa are about even, meaning 100% of D ballot requests will be for D candidates. I picked out 5 red counties: Beaver, Butler, Cameron, Tioga and Westmoreland.

County Fetterman/Lamb primary total/ Current Mail ballots/ D% Mail /D Mail tot/% banked primary votes
Beaver - 16.860/16,564/71.43%/11,832/70%
Butler - 14.550/20,360/57.4%/11,686/80%
Cameron - 257/434/44.01%/191/74%
Tioga - 1,575/2,582/45.97%/1,187/75%
Westmoreland - 35,574/38,254/66.22%/25,332/71%




Deminpenn

(16,303 posts)
31. Pretty close to actual results
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 05:55 AM
Nov 2022

County - Actual mail votes (estimated votes) for Fetterman

Beaver - 11,063 (11,832)
Butler - 12,254 (11,686)
Cameron - 199 (191)
Tioga - 1,187 (1,313)
Westmoreland - 24,378 (25,332)

For Shapiro
Beaver - 11,732
Butler - 13,486
Cameron - 230
Tioga - 1,380
Westmoreland - 26,712

Looks like there was a fair amount of ticketsplitting for Shapiro/Oz given the difference in vote totals.

Orrex

(64,101 posts)
26. Does that count mail-in ballots dropped of in person?
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 09:21 AM
Nov 2022

We hand-delivered ours two weeks ago.

Correctly dated, by the way, so that Republikkkan fuckheads don't "set aside" our ballots.

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