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BumRushDaShow

(142,387 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 06:34 AM Feb 2023

Punxsutawney, PA - GROUND HOG'S DAY - FEB. 2, 2023

Gov. Josh Shapiro is actually there (this is the first time I have ever "seen" a PA governor there at the event although I haven't researched if/when previous ones have gone there).









Stream - https://www.visitpa.com/live-stream-phils-prediction

I can't believe they are doing fireworks at 6:30 in the morning.

(ETA - the temp is 17F there )

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Punxsutawney, PA - GROUND HOG'S DAY - FEB. 2, 2023 (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 OP
I never remembered the case of the shadow/no shadow--probably because it seems opposite to what one hlthe2b Feb 2023 #1
In winter here in PA (and other places) BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #5
It was humans first attempt at time travel... MiHale Feb 2023 #2
Years ago they had an annual summer picnic and served groundhog. twodogsbarking Feb 2023 #3
Western PAer here Joe Cool Feb 2023 #4
They are all over my neighborhood here in EASTERN PA BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #6
Did you actually read what I wrote? Joe Cool Feb 2023 #9
I read what you wrote BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Joe Cool Feb 2023 #15
I have 387 posts yet I have written something many many many many times. Joe Cool Feb 2023 #17
A week from today will be my 15th anniversary on DU BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #18
****SPOILER**** BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #7
Oh no! Sanity Claws Feb 2023 #10
The Pittsburgh NWS is asleep this morning but the Mt. Holly NWS (who covers Philly) had this trivia BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #12
How dare you claim that this myth is false! Sanity Claws Feb 2023 #19
Au contraire BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #21
We have a Lake Winterfest. Hope22 Feb 2023 #8
I do personally like fireworks BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #13
That is a concern for certain! Hope22 Feb 2023 #14
I expect it's because of the frequency range of hearing that they possess BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #16
I was in the basement with the corgi yesterday, putzing around. The Jungle 1 Feb 2023 #20
BWAH!!! BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #22
Staten Island Chuck says early spring Sanity Claws Feb 2023 #23
... BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #24
Did Staten Island Chuck cheat and see this map before making his forecast? Sanity Claws Feb 2023 #25
He may have had the "inside scoop" BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #26
We normally get a few warm days in March FakeNoose Feb 2023 #27
He seemed pretty calm this morning BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #28

hlthe2b

(106,364 posts)
1. I never remembered the case of the shadow/no shadow--probably because it seems opposite to what one
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 06:48 AM
Feb 2023

would assume:


It derives from the Pennsylvania Dutch superstition that if a groundhog emerges from its burrow on this day and sees its shadow due to clear weather, it will retreat to its den and winter will go on for six more weeks; if it does not see its shadow because of cloudiness, spring will arrive early.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog_Day


Doesn't it seem like if he emerged, and saw his shadow because of a sunny clear day that would mean spring would arrive early instead?

Such are superstitions, I guess. Not meant to make sense.

BumRushDaShow

(142,387 posts)
5. In winter here in PA (and other places)
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:22 AM
Feb 2023

"clear skies" (and usually gentle or no wind) means "perfect radiational cooling" and thus very low temps and "not time to come out of hibernation".

Temp had dropped to 14 there before sunrise.

MiHale

(10,784 posts)
2. It was humans first attempt at time travel...
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:06 AM
Feb 2023

Rumor has it that they started with a red squirrel and could only move a couple days so they had to get a more powerful rodent.



….Q….

BumRushDaShow

(142,387 posts)
6. They are all over my neighborhood here in EASTERN PA
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:33 AM
Feb 2023

with tons of holes in my sisters' yards as well as ravaging through their veggie gardens. They are not just a western PA thing.

*I* call them that because they ARE "hogs" (not literal species though)- and sometimes called "whistle pigs". I have actually heard a couple groundhog babies at my sister's house "whistling" in alarm under her deck looking for their mother..

Joe Cool

(1,013 posts)
9. Did you actually read what I wrote?
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:38 AM
Feb 2023

I never said it was just a Western PA thing. I corrected the spelling of the holiday.

BumRushDaShow

(142,387 posts)
11. I read what you wrote
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:55 AM
Feb 2023

and I have seen you write where you are from many many many many times since you joined DU.

It's a Philly thing here with respect to the infamous critter who does give PA a tourism boost, but gives meteorologists and weather hobbyists like myself, a chuckle, but also gives gardeners (also like myself) the desire to have them relocated out of their yards.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #11)

Joe Cool

(1,013 posts)
17. I have 387 posts yet I have written something many many many many times.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 08:40 AM
Feb 2023

That is rich coming from someone with over 107k posts on here.

BumRushDaShow

(142,387 posts)
18. A week from today will be my 15th anniversary on DU
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 08:47 AM
Feb 2023

Welcome to DU (I have interacted you since you joined just before the 2022 election).

BumRushDaShow

(142,387 posts)
12. The Pittsburgh NWS is asleep this morning but the Mt. Holly NWS (who covers Philly) had this trivia
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:59 AM
Feb 2023



NWS Mount Holly
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As we await the groundhog's winter prediction, let's look back at how the groundhog's predictions have done in the past. Courtesy of @NOAANCEI:

https://ncei.noaa.gov/news/groundhog-day-forecasts-and-climate-history
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7:17 AM · Feb 2, 2023




It's supposed to warm up here in eastern PA after this weekend's expected arctic blast. I guess as long as the cold snap takes out those damn lanternflies and stinkbugs, I'll be happy.

BumRushDaShow

(142,387 posts)
21. Au contraire
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 09:30 AM
Feb 2023

Phil's 40% success rate over a 10 year period, ain't bad.

Of course "6 weeks" from now is the vernal equinox so...

NOAA's NCEI (National Centers for Environmental Information) has been tracking his predictions and has the data back to 1887 for his first - https://data.ydr.com/punxsutawney-phil-groundhog-day-shadow-history/

Hope22

(2,878 posts)
8. We have a Lake Winterfest.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:34 AM
Feb 2023

Instead of a groundhog they haul Benny the Bass out and if he eats the minnow ..six more weeks of Winter. It is followed by fireworks at sunrise. If you ever get a chance to see sunrise fireworks take it. They are really quite beautiful! There is a photo at the link. Happy Groundhog Day! 😁

https://www.columbusonthecheap.com/buckeye-lake-winterfest/

BumRushDaShow

(142,387 posts)
13. I do personally like fireworks
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 08:23 AM
Feb 2023

but I know that many pets are horrified.

I didn't run into that until one of my sisters got a black lab about 7 years ago and saw how he freaked out on July 4.

Hope22

(2,878 posts)
14. That is a concern for certain!
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 08:29 AM
Feb 2023

Saturday I saw a couple who brought their two dogs to the fireworks!😳 She said it was their first fireworks! Those people had no clue. Our neighbor shoots off fireworks at New Year. The poor puppers get it at every turn!

BumRushDaShow

(142,387 posts)
16. I expect it's because of the frequency range of hearing that they possess
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 08:39 AM
Feb 2023

let alone their enhanced aural ability/sensitivity. We laugh about how their dog "can hear an Amazon truck coming from 2 blocks away" and will start barking.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
20. I was in the basement with the corgi yesterday, putzing around.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 09:22 AM
Feb 2023

My wife comes to the door and asks if the dog was down here with me. I answer yes.
She says I thought so. I just opened the jar of peanut butter pretzels and bingo he was standing right behind me.
That dog does not miss a thing.
If I say the word Lowe's he starts dancing.

Sanity Claws

(22,038 posts)
23. Staten Island Chuck says early spring
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 11:15 AM
Feb 2023

at least for New York City. He has an 80% accuracy rate. Take that Phil! Go back to your hidey-hole.

Sanity Claws

(22,038 posts)
25. Did Staten Island Chuck cheat and see this map before making his forecast?
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 11:49 AM
Feb 2023

Could that explain his 80% accuracy rate?

BumRushDaShow

(142,387 posts)
26. He may have had the "inside scoop"
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 12:33 PM
Feb 2023



NWS New York NY
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Record Warmth took place last month (January) with records being set at all six of our climate sites (Central Park, LaGuardia, Kennedy, Islip, Newark, and Bridgeport). See the image for the details! #nycwx #nywx #njwx #ctwx #liwx
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4:24 PM · Feb 1, 2023







NWS New York NY
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The wait is over. ❄️❄️

Central Park recorded the first measurable snowfall of the season this morning, with nearly half an inch as of 5:30 AM.

This is latest first measurable snowfall for the season since record keeping began in 1869. #NYwx
5:49 AM · Feb 1, 2023


CPK did get 0.1" more than we did here at PHL though but the handwriting was on the wall!




NWS Mount Holly
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🗒️🌡️💧 The January 2023 climate summary is here! It's no surprise that the entire area was 8-11° above normal for the month. In fact, Allentown and Georgetown experienced their warmest January on record. #PAwx #NJwx #DEwx #MDwx
January 2023 climate summary for the region. All stations experienced a top 4 warmest January on record.
12:44 PM · Feb 1, 2023







NWS Mount Holly
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The streak...is over. There was 0.3" of snow measured in Philly this morning. Thus ends the consecutive days without measurable snow in Philly streak at 325 days. Time to start a new streak!
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7:38 AM · Feb 1, 2023




FakeNoose

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27. We normally get a few warm days in March
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 04:50 PM
Feb 2023

... but I never take down my storm windows until mid-May. I've lived here too long and I know how those warm days can fool us into thinking it's over. Then Bam! The nasty cold weather is right back here again. We've gotten snow in April a few times, but it's gone right away.

I never get too excited by Punxsutawney Phil's predictions.

BumRushDaShow

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28. He seemed pretty calm this morning
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 04:59 PM
Feb 2023

Some years he is feisty and looking around at the madness and crowds but this morning, he was either completely frozen from the cold or was "just chilling" thinking "What a bunch of fools...".

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