A Utah parent says the Bible contains porn and should be removed from school libraries.

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https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2023/03/22/utah-parent-says-bible-contains/

A Utah parent says the Bible contains porn and should be removed from school libraries. Here’s their full challenge.

The parent writes that the book should be considered indecent under Utah’s new book banning law, after seeing the other titles that have been pulled.

By Courtney Tanner | March 22, 2023, 2:55 p.m. | Updated: March 23, 2023, 11:48 a.m.

Frustrated by the books being removed from school libraries, a Utah parent says there’s one that hasn’t been challenged yet, but that they believe should be, for being “one of the most sex-ridden books around.”

So they’ve submitted a request for their school district in Davis County to now review the Bible for any inappropriate content.

“Incest, onanism, bestiality, prostitution, genital mutilation, fellatio, dildos, rape, and even infanticide,” the parent wrote in their request, listing topics they found concerning in the religious text. “You’ll no doubt find that the Bible, under Utah Code Ann. § 76-10-1227, has ‘no serious values for minors’ because it’s pornographic by our new definition.”

The code cited is the Utah law passed in 2022 to ban any books containing “pornographic or indecent” content from Utah schools, both in libraries and in the classroom. It came after outcry from conservative parents groups, who have been pushing to have titles removed.

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[hlthe2b]

1. Hard to argue the case---if this is their standard...

Turnabout is fair play.

[Ocelot II]

2. It does. There's some really raunchy, nasty stuff in the Bible.

[not fooled]

12. Funny how that wasn't covered in Sunday School

that I attended. I had no idea (nor was ever inclined to read the bible cover-to-cover, which would have revealed all).

So, my nice Sunday School teachers slanted the curriculum, huh?

[sdfernando]

15. You should read some olde medieval texts written

by monks and nuns!…..and pay close attention to art and notes in the margins.

[MayReasonRule]

64. LOL... I Spent My Childhood Inside of Books Inside of Libraries...

Inside of literary archeological finds, tomes of cultural footnotes of as many stripes as could devour.

This was a product of my personal cultural isolation and genetics perhaps.

My father had garnered a full military scholarship to Texas A&M at the age of 15 in part by reading and studying every book in the libraries of his East Texas home town and that of the surrounding towns as well.

Dallas Public Library and SMU's library's became a personal fascination whenever I would visit my grandparents in Dallas.

When I finally encountered manuscripts of old with such art and notes at the age of around nine I was both astonished and immediately felt the need to press on a column holding up the ceiling, lol.

Oh the times I had...

Yes indeed, pay close attention to arts and notes in the margins!

Laissez bon temps rouler!
Ya' might as well...

[Ocelot II]

17. They left out a lot.

"My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door,
and my bowels were moved for him.
I rose up to open to my beloved;
and my hands dropped with myrrh,
and my fingers with sweet smelling myrrh,
upon the handles of the lock."

“Blow on my garden, that its fragrance may spread abroad.
Let my lover come into his garden and taste its choice fruits.”

“When she carried on her whoring so openly and flaunted her nakedness, I turned in disgust from her, as I had turned in disgust from her sister. Yet she increased her whoring, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the whore in the land of Egypt and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses. Thus you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when the Egyptians handled your bosom and pressed your young breasts.”

[Pinback]

19. Hoo boy! I gotta go out right now and get me a copy!

[Joinfortmill]

36. ROFL

[sinkingfeeling]

3. Right on!

[RKP5637]

4. It's filled with porn and lots of hatred!!! n/t

[Ocelot II]

5. Hatred is just fine with this crowd. But the Bible also has lots and lots of sex,

some of it quite inappropriate.

[central scrutinizer]

8. Ezekiel 23:20 is the money shot

For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses and whose issue is like the issue of horses.

[Delphinus]

21. Ugh

I went to Google and asked for the meaning of that and just ugh.

[Maraya1969]

48. I thought it just says that they are men with big dicks. Am I missing something?

[Delphinus]

54. Oh,

I am quite literal and one of the "bible" sites that I brought up seemed it was real animals. BUT, as I said, I am QUITE literal.

[Maraya1969]

55. Well, I just looked up bestiality in the Bible and whoa!

There were no verses that okayed it, but there were so many times they mentioned it that you wonder what these people were doing back then

[Layzeebeaver]

62. Opens new window to ask ChatGPT...

Stay tuned…

[czarjak]

6. Mormons canceled The New Testament in 1830. Look it up.

[Irish_Dem]

7. The Ten Commandments talk about sex, cussing, lying, stealing.

Could warp precious little psyches.

[dutch777]

9. So does this make churches adult bookstores?

Oh, how those unintended consequences can come and bite you right in the ....

[NullTuples]

31. More like "Adult Entertainment" using the GOP definitions - there's even cis men, wearing dresses!

The church bookstore on the other hand is clearly a porn shop.

[Joinfortmill]

38. ROFL

[TheRickles]

10. About time someone tried this tactic. I hope it catches on elsewhere as well.

[bucolic_frolic]

16. That tactic should be applied to all Republican screeds, all of which dwell on culture war issues

They are inappropriate for humanity

[TygrBright]

11. I haveta say, as far as "community standards" go, they're onto something. n/t

[DinahMoeHum]

13. Tee hee! Turn the censors' biases against them. . .

. . .and do it ad infinitum, ad nauseum. . .

. . .and hopefully, the proponents on book bans will sing a different song. . .

[jaxexpat]

14. Makes sense to me.

The holy word of god can be expected, by definition, to have no self censorship.



Just ask Larry Flint.

[aggiesal]

18. They'll just apply that the law does not pertain to religious text ...

under the Constitution's 1st Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
(i.e. Religious Freedom)

Which will expose them to how Irony Deficient they are, using the same Amendment for Freedom Of Speech, that they used to band all the other books.

Funny how that always works for them, but not for us.

[orthoclad]

20. "works for them, but not for us"

That's because they understand that it's all about power, not principle.

[aggiesal]

29. Nothing is ever about principle with (R)'s, it's always all about power. So yes I agree. n/t

[AdamGG]

22. Separation of church and state - it shouldn't be there anyway

Do they have a copy of the Q'uran in their library? How about the Bhagavad Vita?

[NullTuples]

37. There are so many most schools & public libraries leave out!

The Yadzi Black Book
The Holy Piby
Adi Da's writings
Principia Discordia
The Charge Of The Goddess
Odu Ifa
Amritbani Guru Ravidass Ji
The Gospel Of The Prophet Mani
Codex Borgia
Nevi'im, Torah & Ketuvium
Daozang (there are like 20 Taoism books really)
All the Shinto books
All the Zoroastrianism books (there are like 15?)
Maybe 100 Indian Ayyavazhi, Hindu, Ravidiassia and Jainism books?
Three or so primary Sikhism texts
30-ish Bahá'í Faith texts
All the other Islamic texts
All the other Hebrew texts

I haven't even gotten started on the New Age and so-called "New Religious Movement" belief systems except Adi Da (aka Franklin Albert Jones a.k.a. Adi Da Love-Ananda Samraj). And so many African, Native American, South American & Asian smaller or pre-Crusades & Conquistadors religions that still survive to this day.

...and the Christian Bibles - all 20 or 30 or so of them, as they can differ substantially - should be simply added to the mix.

[Rhiannon12866]

47. That was my first thought as well! Are they talking about parochial or private schools?

I still remember when I was in elementary school they suddenly stopped saying the "school prayer" which followed the Pledge of Allegiance every day. I don't remember all the words, but don't think it was particularly religious, it ended with "our parents, our teachers and our country," that all I recall. But one day we were told it would be replaced by "a prayer to yourself,' a moment of silence, really, which was confusing to us kids. But then that was eliminated too, and nobody really noticed.

[AdamGG]

49. I grew up in 70s suburban Boston

which was liberal and there definitely weren't any kind of prayers, other than the pledge of allegiance, so it's a bit alien to me. I'm pretty sure there weren't any Bibles in the school.

The right keeps pushing religion into the public sphere, though, and sadly winning. There was a Supreme Court case from a year or two ago where a school district (Washington state maybe) fired a football coach who refused to stop saying Christian prayers with the team on the sidelines. It went to the Supreme Court and the stacked Trump court ruled against the school district and said that they had to pay the coach damages and they couldn't stop him from rallying the team with Christian prayers.

So, the state sponsored school is required to pressure Muslim, Jewish, atheist kids on the team to participate in Christian prayers or risk being ostracized from the team.

[Rhiannon12866]

51. I grew up in a fairly diverse community and nobody missed that "school prayer"

But I would imagine that if that ruling (I have no idea what prompted it, I was just a kid) was reversed that there would be a lot of pushback today. When I was a kid, most people attended some kind of religious services, but that's definitely not the case today. Where I live now, the Catholic church downtown was shut down and is now a Salvation Army.

[usonian]

23. The X-Rated Bible: An Irreverent Survey of Sex in the Scriptures

Not a book promotion.
Ben Edward Akerley 1999

One reviewer notes:
Passages are neatly arranged by depravity.

You can check it out from the Internet Archive:
https://archive.org/details/xratedbible00bene

Another reviewer mentioned that King James was gay. 🏳️?🌈

KJ's Wikipedia Page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_VI_and_I

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25. Thanks! nt

[Ocelot II]

32. King James didn't write the King James version of the Bible.

He just commissioned it. It was written by a panel of 47 translators; James didn't write any of it. So, while he might have been gay, that would have had nothing to do with the Bible translation.

[usonian]

46. Yes, I read that but left it out.

But it has his name on it and most people don't know who the McDonald's were, nor who Telsa was, and they really ought to learn about Henry Ford. (but I digress)

People do judge a book by its cover, and too often, by no more than the cover.

[NullTuples]

39. As was Saint Anselm of Canterbury

Before around 1100 CE or so, it was okay to be a gay Roman Catholic priest. But in the 30 years prior to that time England and Rome had been feuding over religion and England declared a new tax. It was designed to make Rome's priests more expensive to keep in the country since England's priests would typically marry. So the RCC tried to outlaw gay priests. Anselm, who was in a relationship with his immediate superior in the local church hierarchy, fought it off until his death.

[AllyCat]

24. True story. It should not be in school libraries

[WinstonSmith4740]

26. A lot of us here have been feeling like this for years.

The atheists and the folks from the Satanic Temple are going to be the ones who save us from these zealots. And all they have to do is stand by The Constitution.

[republianmushroom]

27. I like it

[HardPort]

28. Now do the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants.

If you want your mind blown about how a grifter who lived 200 years ago continues the grift to this day, try D&C 132.

[calimary]

30. There are TONS of "begets", too. Sex!

All those generation’s didn’t just magically appear when it was their turn. And it just might also be that every one of those generations from the tracking of Abraham’s and Isaac’s and other lineages came from WOMEN. Every single one of ‘em came out of a womb. Even the fruit of the so-called “Virgin Birth.”

[Sogo]

33. I love this!!

Would love to hear about their reactions.

[TeamProg]

34. Finally! Thanks for posting. nt

[Joinfortmill]

35. You go, girl

[LiberalFighter]

40. About time.

[wryter2000]

41. Dildoes?

Who knew? Maybe I’ll read my bible, after all.

[LiberalFighter]

42. Clergy in church, Sunday School, confirmation, and Bible Study

Never ever cover everything.

They pretty much cover the same thing every year for the same week.

[JPPaverage]

43. The Bible shouldn't be in public school libraries at all

Some little thing in the United States Constitution caled "separation of church and state." Yes its pesky, but it's in there.

[Rebl2]

45. 👍

[flashman13]

50. It would be totally appropriate in a section of the library on philosophy and religion as long as

that section included every other religious text from every religion you can possibly think of.

[flashman13]

52. Almost forgot that that section should include books on atheist, agnosticism, the I Ching etc.

[kimbutgar]

44. I love it throw it back I the Bible thumpers faces!

[keithbvadu2]

53. Dark Bible Stories... rape, killing, incest

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217741250

Link to tweet

[Hassler]

56. This needs to be SOP for all book banning states.

[SunSeeker]

57. Well played, Utah parent.

[Wonder Why]

58. The right will edit out those passages along with the teachings of Jesus about loving one's neighbor

[Oppaloopa]

59. Oak grove Middle school in Clearwater Florida actually turns into a church on Sundays

Every time I drive past on Sunday I am still shocked. They park large tractor trailers to use as a billboard to adv their church I have not heard of anyone complaing regarding this. I find this so outrageous.

[Seinan Sensei]

60. Hoisted on their own petard

[True Blue American]

61. It does, what about those 2 sisters who got their father

Drunk so they could have sex with him! And do not forget Eve and that evil apple, or was it a snake? I forget.

[digsub]

63. Nothing to see here...

"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." (Ezekiel 23:20)