Wisconsin
Related: About this forumMiserable, horrible Republicans overturn the mask mandate
Unreal. We are never going to get out of this pandemic because of these idiots.
https://www.wasb.org/assembly-amends-covid-bill-yet-again-approves-mask-mandate-repeal/
Archae
(46,810 posts)The GOP in the Assembly and state Senate wants to get rid of Evers, and make his position absolutely ceremonial.
StClone
(11,869 posts)Our WI Assembly of Republican assholes do what they do best: They lie, waste time, and grandstand. One jerk said of them overriding Evers, "it's a win for Representative Government." It would be if WI weren't totally subsumed by gerrymandering leaving the electorate unrepresented by their Assemble person. WI statewide voting situations (judges, Governor, and one of our Senators) have recently gone for us Democrats.
StClone
(11,869 posts)samplegirl
(12,083 posts)How many more will die?
Irish_Dem
(57,592 posts)and it is going to be a slower recovery. More deaths and illness.
Why does the QOP hate the American people so much.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,934 posts)They are sociopaths and narcissists better known as toxic people.
Irish_Dem
(57,592 posts)And the people don't vote for them.
SmartVoter22
(639 posts)Viral mutations is not linked to actual infection rates. A mutation occurs with individual first, and then transmitted to another individual whose DNA has the same receptor ability.
What you may be suggesting is that, 'herd immunity' will be delayed as more variants are found. That is true.
But, there isn't enough data to claim that more deaths or illnesses will happen, from the variants, simply because more people are repsonding to the variant. The variant is mainly showing specific transmission methods; more lung than throat, more nasal than throat..etc.
Yes, there will be more mutations, but until those actually happen, and tracking has a means to identify each variant's method of infection; there is no way to predict more death and illness.
A variant can show up and have no effect. Some mutations can actually wind up doing nothing at all. Have we had those yet?
Not sure where the 'no effect' variants are being compiled, but they've got to be out there and you've touched on a very important thing that media needs to educate us all about.
How do our bodies react to each variant?
What are all the variants?
Will variants cause the vaccines to require re-formulation and update injections?
StClone
(11,869 posts)Which is a different concept than probability (infection rate) which is the number of a given population having the specified viral variant. However the more infections increase the higher chance of a mutation which may, or may not, have any importance in population (herd) immunity.
SmartVoter22
(639 posts)The upcoming data will prove both of us a right.
Higher viral transmission will cause mutations, but that can be controlled, to some degree, with controlling individual transmissions among the specific groups at higher risk. Those groups critical to the first exposures of a pandemic.
These groups, which were known, from past pandemics were identified and followed closely to start estimating a herd immunity date.
Attention was applied from the beginning; elder age, underlying conditions, first respsonders, etc all need to be vaccinated first, as that is critical to reducing the earlier transmissions of the pandemic by those working in areas that affect those higher risked groups.
The general population had to be isolated, locked down, from each other to prevent a doomsday scenario. And they worked.
After a year, we should see more mutations, and we have. There are several mutations floating about, we hope to never see one that can resist everything we throw at it. That data is what give us a better probability, but it has to work with our own individual behaviors to provide everyone with the best response at the earlier possible time.
We should also be seeing, those nations, that have better controls than the US, begin to near their own 'herd immunity' markers in the next few months. We can then check their data to see if their actions are better and apply them here.
How we've educated our population, to reduce that individual, person to person, transmission is what I was initially talking about. That is where the US fails miserably.
We wear our masks at work, when shopping, but when we get home...off they come and we sit with our probable carriers. This is how most transmissions are happening. It's us and our behaviors.
Let's hope we learn how to better react when a viral this bad is initially found than we did following Trump and his anti-masking disaster.
Irish_Dem
(57,592 posts)This is what they are all saying.
That is why we must wear masks and get vaccinated.
LaMouffette
(2,269 posts)In 2019, only 140 people died of alcohol-related car crashes in Wisconsin.
https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/safety/education/drunk-drv/default.aspx
Whereas, about 5,000 Wisconsinites died of Covid-19 in 2020.
https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/covid-19/deaths.htm#cumulative]
Since they will no longer be required to protect people from something as deadly as Covid, why should they be required to protect others from drunk-driving, which only kills a smattering of people each year?
(Heavy sarcasm.)
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)they would sacrifice half of the country.
pansypoo53219
(21,725 posts)avoid no mask businesses.